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There are 152 comments on the TwinCities.com story from May 19, 2009, titled Wrong-way driver from Lake St. Croix Beach dies in Goodhue Coun.... In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

An arrest warrant was issued today for Colleen Hauser, who failed to bring her 13-year-old son, Daniel, to a court hearing regarding whether he should receive chemotherapy against his wishes.

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Since: Mar 09

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#146 May 20, 2009
Mellers wrote:
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Your first sentence is a contradictory statement. You say it's a scam, yet you say that those who survive it is 99%. Which is it?
I'm a chemo-based cancer survivor. Anyone who says it's a scam who can't back it up with facts really has no idea what they're talking about.
Mellers is is all great that you survived your cancer due to chemo, but my father did not and died an agonizing horrendous death witnessed by all of his children, dying in agony from the poison flowing through his blood, choking his heart and taking away his soul. Chemo does not work for everyone. People should have a choice, you are for freedom of choice you know, you have said so on many many blogs..........

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Since: Feb 08

St Paul, MN

#147 May 20, 2009
ThaLeena wrote:
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Mellers is is all great that you survived your cancer due to chemo, but my father did not and died an agonizing horrendous death witnessed by all of his children, dying in agony from the poison flowing through his blood, choking his heart and taking away his soul. Chemo does not work for everyone. People should have a choice, you are for freedom of choice you know, you have said so on many many blogs..........
I'm sorry for your father's death. I still struggle regarding those who don't make it and why I am alive. I wonder, though, if your father didn't have the same odds as this boy. I know someone who died a tough death and had chemo on the day he died, trying so hard to live.

I've said this, also, repeatedly. I support the choice to decide one's own choice, medically speaking, as long as they're an adult. A child is not afforded those same rights. I side with the judge.

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#148 May 20, 2009
Mellers wrote:
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I'm sorry for your father's death. I still struggle regarding those who don't make it and why I am alive. I wonder, though, if your father didn't have the same odds as this boy. I know someone who died a tough death and had chemo on the day he died, trying so hard to live.
I've said this, also, repeatedly. I support the choice to decide one's own choice, medically speaking, as long as they're an adult. A child is not afforded those same rights. I side with the judge.
I agree, this is a difficult one. Just worries me the level that a government is getting involved in health care and treatment and court orders and arrests and jail sentences and convictions and now on to deciding what treatment a kid will get, when he will get it, and how he will get it. So if they find him, what are they gonna do, get the kid handcuffed to the bed railings so they can put the poison in his blood? Bound his hands and feet so that he doesn't pull out the IV?

So it is ok for Terry Shiavo to DIE per her husbands wish, but not for this kid to die per his or his mother's wish? I would like someone to explain that to me. In the Terry Schiavo case that poor helpless woman didn't even have a say in her starving to death, and her husband was "allowed" by the court to speak for her. But in this case, the birth mother has no say and even the kids says no? Why was Terry Schiavo allowed to starve to death but the government won't let this kid die from his cancer? What the hell is one child to the government? Trying to force treatment on someone who doesn't want it when apparently millions who want it are going without? This is more about power and control more than it is about one kid.

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#149 May 20, 2009
Not "allowed" to starve to death, rather "made" to starve to death.

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Since: Feb 08

St Paul, MN

#150 May 21, 2009
ThaLeena wrote:
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I agree, this is a difficult one. Just worries me the level that a government is getting involved in health care and treatment and court orders and arrests and jail sentences and convictions and now on to deciding what treatment a kid will get, when he will get it, and how he will get it. So if they find him, what are they gonna do, get the kid handcuffed to the bed railings so they can put the poison in his blood? Bound his hands and feet so that he doesn't pull out the IV?
So it is ok for Terry Shiavo to DIE per her husbands wish, but not for this kid to die per his or his mother's wish? I would like someone to explain that to me. In the Terry Schiavo case that poor helpless woman didn't even have a say in her starving to death, and her husband was "allowed" by the court to speak for her. But in this case, the birth mother has no say and even the kids says no? Why was Terry Schiavo allowed to starve to death but the government won't let this kid die from his cancer? What the hell is one child to the government? Trying to force treatment on someone who doesn't want it when apparently millions who want it are going without? This is more about power and control more than it is about one kid.
Forced chemotherapy for this boy leaves me extremely uncomfortable. I had wished all along the family had seen why it was so important for him to have treatment. His dad seems to have some level of understanding.

The difference between the Shiavo case and this one has absolutely everything to with the fact that the boy is a minor. And his parents have a moral, ethical, and lawful duty to do what is necessary to keep him healthy. They are told what it will take to get him healthy again (and yes, nothing in life has guarantees) and they refused. They didn't just NOT talk to the doctor-they just stopped showing up after the first round of chemo. They deemed the boy was ONLY sick because of chemotherapy and had no concept of understanding of the underlying cause.

That alone shows a lack of understanding of the situation. The boy clearly cannot make this decision by himself so I trusted his parents to do the right thing.

When I was getting my first round of chemo, I was hospitalized, big tears in my eyes, and my dad was my tower of strength and reassured me I'd be fine. I'm not afraid to admit that I felt like a scared kid all over again, except that there was nothing more serious, more important, or more scary than what I went through, but my dad stayed strong for me, and reassured me every time I was doubting myself, my life, my future, that I'd be all right.

I'm not sure if my dad knows how grateful I am for that. Time to call him.
jjj

Vancouver, WA

#151 May 21, 2009
Mellers wrote:
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The difference between the Shiavo case and this one has absolutely everything to with the fact that the boy is a minor. And his parents have a moral, ethical, and lawful duty to do what is necessary to keep him healthy. They are told what it will take to get him healthy again (and yes, nothing in life has guarantees) and they refused. They didn't just NOT talk to the doctor-they just stopped showing up after the first round of chemo. They deemed the boy was ONLY sick because of chemotherapy and had no concept of understanding of the underlying cause.
That alone shows a lack of understanding of the situation. The boy clearly cannot make this decision by himself so I trusted his parents to do the right thing.
Great comment! Furthermore, unless stated otherwise in a Health Care Directive (HCD) the decisions regarding an ADULT patient's care is determined by their immediate family, who would best understand your wishes. In the absence of such a directive, the spouses wishes are typically enacted. According to the MN dept. of health, if one does not have a HCD:
"You will still receive medical treatment if you don't have a written directive. Health care providers will listen to what people close to you say about your treatment preferences, but the best way to be sure your wishes are followed is to have a health care directive."
Quite simply these are two very different cases. One in which pertains to the validity of a husbands knowledge of his wife's wishes, and another regarding a parent providing treatment for their child.
Rick

Milton, KY

#152 May 21, 2009
ottermann wrote:
Susan Daya,(aka Susan Halwi), is a lawyer from California. She accompanied Daniel and Colleen to his doctors visit on Monday.
According to the boys doctor, she rushed them out of the office as soon as the prognosis that his cancer was getting worse was delivered.
The boy's father, and the leader of the Nemenhah band both state running is wrong, and the courts orders should be followed.
Now, I don't know for sure, but, I'd be willing t bet Daya got in touch with the Hausers and said she could help. I seriously doubt the police will find them unless they get a lucky break. I'm sure there is a network in place to keep them hidden.
And, for those who say the boy should make up his own mind, he has a learning disability and can't even read. How well do you think he understands this situation?
He is basing his decisions solely on his parents, wishes. And, now it seems like it his mom's wishes.
She claims to be roman catholic. Well, I hope she enjoys her eternity in hades, because the murder she is committing guarantees her a spot.
The thing "wrong" about this case is the fact that the U.S. Government is forcing people to use a cure that is as bad as the disease. A child's immune system is fragile enough to begin with and to expect a parent to allow an injection of something to destroy it completely is ridiculous. The U.S. Medical Community has become a group of crackpots that should be held accountable for their crimes against the American people along with the drug cartels they represent who continue to manufacture the poison. The poison that costs thousands of dollars a month and still exists to line the pockets of the drug companies. Granted there have been survivors of this "treatment", some of which I know. What I also know is that their cancer came back after many years. They went through the chemo AGAIN and finally died. It is ridiculous that the cause of death was recorded as cancer. It should have been recorded as the chemo.
Common sense

Sylacauga, AL

#153 May 21, 2009
Rick wrote:
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The thing "wrong" about this case is the fact that the U.S. Government is forcing people to use a cure that is as bad as the disease. A child's immune system is fragile enough to begin with and to expect a parent to allow an injection of something to destroy it completely is ridiculous. The U.S. Medical Community has become a group of crackpots that should be held accountable for their crimes against the American people along with the drug cartels they represent who continue to manufacture the poison. The poison that costs thousands of dollars a month and still exists to line the pockets of the drug companies. Granted there have been survivors of this "treatment", some of which I know. What I also know is that their cancer came back after many years. They went through the chemo AGAIN and finally died. It is ridiculous that the cause of death was recorded as cancer. It should have been recorded as the chemo.
This boy had a 95% chance of survival with chemotherapy. I understand this treatment is horrendous to those who have to go through it. But the fact that it may buy you many years of life should be significant for a boy who is only 13.

His 13 year-old life is important. Adding a few more years or many more--either way--is important. There is a lot for him to experience in the next few years. He is worth it. There are no guarantees for any of us--we're all going to die some day.

This boy's education is another matter entirely. He needs to learn to read and write. If he is severely learning-disabled he needs even more help to compensate and/or overcome.

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Since: Feb 08

St Paul, MN

#154 May 21, 2009
Rick wrote:
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The thing "wrong" about this case is the fact that the U.S. Government is forcing people to use a cure that is as bad as the disease. A child's immune system is fragile enough to begin with and to expect a parent to allow an injection of something to destroy it completely is ridiculous. The U.S. Medical Community has become a group of crackpots that should be held accountable for their crimes against the American people along with the drug cartels they represent who continue to manufacture the poison. The poison that costs thousands of dollars a month and still exists to line the pockets of the drug companies. Granted there have been survivors of this "treatment", some of which I know. What I also know is that their cancer came back after many years. They went through the chemo AGAIN and finally died. It is ridiculous that the cause of death was recorded as cancer. It should have been recorded as the chemo.
It is your opinion that you believe the cure is as bad as the disease. Like Daniel, I had a type of blood cancer that had a high success rate. I did not want chemo but knew I had no choice. In my case, I had a nearly 100% chance of dying within 3 months without it, but a 92% chance of beating it with chemo.

This is my opinion based on those I know who have died of cancer: rarely do people die of chemo, but because they have a pretty horrible type of cancer where the rates of success are quite low to begin with. Or that person had another illness which provided complications to the treatment process. Again, I think that rarely do people actually die of chemo.
SunShine

Saint Paul, MN

#155 May 21, 2009
Mellers wrote:
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It is your opinion that you believe the cure is as bad as the disease. Like Daniel, I had a type of blood cancer that had a high success rate. I did not want chemo but knew I had no choice. In my case, I had a nearly 100% chance of dying within 3 months without it, but a 92% chance of beating it with chemo.
This is my opinion based on those I know who have died of cancer: rarely do people die of chemo, but because they have a pretty horrible type of cancer where the rates of success are quite low to begin with. Or that person had another illness which provided complications to the treatment process. Again, I think that rarely do people actually die of chemo.
I was going to JUMP on you about that "opinion" thing that you so love to flaunt. But I think I'll let you do that.
toughenup

Minneapolis, MN

#156 May 22, 2009
google child+death+foster care to see why Danny should not be forced into foster care. we need to leave the family in peace and let Danny have his alternative treatments in private.
teenymartini3

United States

#157 May 30, 2009
st paul wrote:
<quoted text>chemo saves lives. I have know three people who had chemo and all of them are cancer free. so unless you have 100% proof that it doesn't help then you can spout your mouth off. this kid is 13 he's not an adult and of course he is going to listen to his parents brain washing
How can you say things like this to a person who has lost a child? Obviously they have done research and lived through it. Why don't you read the entire thread and all posts before you post so ignorantly, and try to have some compassion; which is more important than your opinion.

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