As his cancer worsens, 13-year-old Mi...

As his cancer worsens, 13-year-old Minnesota boy and his mother...

There are 258 comments on the TwinCities.com story from May 19, 2009, titled As his cancer worsens, 13-year-old Minnesota boy and his mother.... In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

An arrest warrant was issued Tuesday for Colleen Hauser, who failed to bring her 13-year-old son, Daniel, to a court hearing on whether he should receive chemotherapy against his wishes.

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Greystone

Inver Grove Heights, MN

#1 May 19, 2009
It should be fairly obvious that the "father" is lying to protect his wife, not the child involved. Hold him for contemt of court until the child is rescued from what is an extremley aggravated case of child neglect and possibly abuse. What if this boy dies? Is the family going to go to court and say well it was just never meant to be?
Cat

Minneapolis, MN

#2 May 20, 2009
20 years ago I had a neighbors who were extremely devout Christians. Their son had cancer and they decided that God would heal his wounds and so they refused treatment of any kind. They also refused ANYTHING to make him for comfortable even as he was dying. Doctors testified that they caught the cancer early and were confident that he could have been treated and have had a full recovery. They murdered their son in my eyes-sounds like these people are doing the exact same thing.
Freedom can Hurt

Blenheim, Canada

#4 May 20, 2009
Have we forgotten about freedom

You can say what you want about the parents, but it is their "Choice"...I thought everyone was about "choice" now a days...
Look folks you can't have it both ways...you either want freedom or you don't. This country is built on the foundation the government has limits...you may not always like what people do, but who made you all the supreme being that decides your "opinion" is the only opinion and therfore should be the only right way to do something. Sometimes our freedoms causes uncomfortable situations, but you cannot have it without that happening.
Slippery Slope

Saint Paul, MN

#5 May 20, 2009
So now that the gov't has decided it can FORCE people to take cancer treatments, what's next? For all of the people who are against the Hauser's freedoms, what will you do if the gov't comes to your door to force a medical treatment on you or your family? Can we all say forced sterilization (just like the Chinese do)?
Incredible

Saint Paul, MN

#6 May 20, 2009
After seeing the husband on the news, it is pretty who is making all the dumb decisions in that family. He is scared to death of her...
Incredible

Saint Paul, MN

#7 May 20, 2009
Slippery Slope wrote:
So now that the gov't has decided it can FORCE people to take cancer treatments, what's next? For all of the people who are against the Hauser's freedoms, what will you do if the gov't comes to your door to force a medical treatment on you or your family? Can we all say forced sterilization (just like the Chinese do)?
Nice leap there, Slippery. Compare the care of a minor to forced sterilization.

Are you trying out for the Olympic ski jump team? You'd be an shoe-in with that leaping ability...
Incredible

Saint Paul, MN

#8 May 20, 2009
Oops...meant to post this:

After seeing the husband on the news, it is pretty clear who is making all the dumb decisions in that family. He is scared to death of her...
Jessica

United States

#9 May 20, 2009
In several televised interviews with the local media, the mother said that if the cancer had gotten worse and/or the tumor got larger, then they would do the chemo. Now, with that being the case, she chose instead to run. The judge's ruling was predicated on if chemo would still help this boy. It may be cynical, but it sounds to me that she is fleeing so that the cancer does get to the point that chemo and radiation would be considered no longer a viable treatment. In other words, she is allowing her son's cancer to get to the point where he will likely die, but at least they can say that chemo and radition wouldn't have to be used.
Just Saying

Saint Paul, MN

#10 May 20, 2009
She could never have done this kidnapping or at least thought about it twice if we had the death penalty in Minnesota.

I'm just saying.
Greco

United States

#11 May 20, 2009
So if the minor child of Catholics was pregnant, a judge could order an abortion of a doctor deemed the minor's health on jeopardy by carrying the child to term?

I don't see any easy answers here.
Natasha Badanaff

Saint Paul, MN

#12 May 20, 2009
Has the family made a lot of "good" decisions. If the thirteen year old can't read and they are home schooling, what's going on with the other kids? I think uneducated children won't have such an easy time in society. The parents don't come across as thoughtful intelligent people.
agree

Saint Paul, MN

#14 May 20, 2009
Freedom can Hurt wrote:
Have we forgotten about freedom
You can say what you want about the parents, but it is their "Choice"...I thought everyone was about "choice" now a days...
Look folks you can't have it both ways...you either want freedom or you don't. This country is built on the foundation the government has limits...you may not always like what people do, but who made you all the supreme being that decides your "opinion" is the only opinion and therfore should be the only right way to do something. Sometimes our freedoms causes uncomfortable situations, but you cannot have it without that happening.
I agree, The goverment should not be able to force chemo on them. The boy is 13 and he does seem to know the risks. I seen him on tv and he understands what is going on. Every culture has their own beliefs and it not up to us to force something on them that they do not believe in. Yes, it is sad that the chemo might help but there is never 100 percent guarentee it will. I lost 2 brothers to cancer and after seeing them go through chemo, I would never have Chemo myself.
My Thought

Minneapolis, MN

#15 May 20, 2009
I think the court did the right thing and intervened with this family. These parents are making poor parenting decisions that could be fatal to their child. So, do the courts have the right to take a child out of the hands of a parent that is addicted to meth? The kid is also a minor and does not have the legal right to make wise and educated decisions. Everyone always points the fingers at the parents when their child becomes a felon or commits a serious act in society.
ISRW

Minneapolis, MN

#16 May 20, 2009
Folks, anyone who's been reading these stories can see thick snake-oil-colored smoke coming off of the supposed spirituality involved here.

This particular iteration of the background info calls the Nemenhah a "quasi-American Indian group." We're talking about a group led by a guy who's previously been convicted of using religious cover to sell recreational peyote. We're also talking about a 13-year-old kid whose status as a shaman in that group was established *after* the chemo diagnosis, and who couldn't describe that role when he was asked about it in court.

This is a mom who opted to leave town rather than look at the x-ray results. That isn't about her religion, it's about her not being able to accept being proven wrong in such a humiliating way.

If you're going to admit this argument as a legitimate invocation of religious belief in medicine, then there's next to nothing you *won't* admit on those grounds.

There are some interesting precedents for the sort of medical practice being claimed here, especially from early and mid 19th century America. At least one major popular medical movement back then co-opted Native American herbs and the like, marketing itself as a patented healing approach and eschewing doctors and the medical establishment of the time. I don't really think that's comparable to this situation, in which someone clearly is using religion as cover for a pretty nasty manipulation of an ignorant family and a sick kid. This particular case doesn't pass the first sniff test for sincerity of belief, even, which is wrenching but which does make the judgment pretty clear.
John S

Minneapolis, MN

#17 May 20, 2009
These parents should go to prison.
Kerry

Minneapolis, MN

#18 May 20, 2009
Just Saying wrote:
She could never have done this kidnapping or at least thought about it twice if we had the death penalty in Minnesota.
I'm just saying.
This woman is such a wackaloon she probably wouldn't be deterred by the death penalty. Pain of death only resonates with rational, sane folks, you know. That's why when you have the death penalty, you end up using it instead of just having to threaten it.
Open your eyes

Duluth, MN

#19 May 20, 2009
Natasha Badanaff wrote:
Has the family made a lot of "good" decisions. If the thirteen year old can't read and they are home schooling, what's going on with the other kids? I think uneducated children won't have such an easy time in society. The parents don't come across as thoughtful intelligent people.
The thing you don't see is that here in America we have the choice and freedom to make our own decisions. Sometimes those decisions don't make sense to "EVERYONE" but they are yours to make, and when the gov't interceeds in our freedoms then the writing is on the wall to what the future holds. So you may see this one thing, but really it is the stepping stones for another!!
Natasha Badanaff

Saint Paul, MN

#20 May 20, 2009
Open your eyes wrote:
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The thing you don't see is that here in America we have the choice and freedom to make our own decisions. Sometimes those decisions don't make sense to "EVERYONE" but they are yours to make, and when the gov't interceeds in our freedoms then the writing is on the wall to what the future holds. So you may see this one thing, but really it is the stepping stones for another!!
Do you really mean to argue that it's better for the kids to be uneducated? I think the argument here is that perhaps inflexibility and pride may be part of the problem and it has gotten away from a child that's deathly ill and he has a chance to live with treatment, more so than without.
Everyday Reader

Saint Paul, MN

#21 May 20, 2009
I agree with all the "freedom" issues everyone has stated. However, as a parent of two children, I know for a fact I would do EVERYTHING in my power, the power of medications/treatments/doctors , etc. to keep one of my precious children alive. And while I consider myself a good Christian woman raising a Christian family and have total faith in God, there is a reason medications and treatments were invented...to help us live. If God hadn't wanted medical science to come to the point where it is, he wouldn't have let it happen. This woman is a selfish, horrible person to let her son continue to fight this alone....and if he does die, she should be charged with murder. Oh by the way, if her religious beliefs are against modern medicine, wouldn't you think her religious beliefs would also be against kidnapping!!
Rarely

United States

#22 May 20, 2009
The kid is 13 and can't read. Blame that on the parents too.

I hope they are found so society can crush her beliefs and take away her freedom. Oh, what about Daniel? I guess mom gets to take his life into her hands. When he dies, I hope mom loses any decision making ability for the rest of her children.

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