Experts say case of missing teen refl...

Experts say case of missing teen reflects larger problem

There are 3 comments on the ReporterNews.com story from May 22, 2009, titled Experts say case of missing teen reflects larger problem. In it, ReporterNews.com reports that:

As authorities search for a missing 13-year-old cancer patient whose mother shunned chemotherapy, an expert on faith healing said the case demonstrates just how these cases can get out of hand -- and the need to prevent them in the future.

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Glaxo

Winnipeg, Canada

#1 May 23, 2009
This article states that a person of knowledge has 'never' heard of anyone ( meaning the mother) to take matters in her own hands against what the state is saying.Her response seems to be one of disbelief.

The people who do not normally take their families for traditional medicine are not being tracked at all so what could she comment on. Some get well and some pass on and die as undiagnosed until death. She has probably heard of a few of those where people have been charged with neglect.

I strongly believe that if they are going to jail people who refuse treatment, or the parents of people who impede it, they must also jail members of the medical team in a hospital if they fail to save the patient. They will have subjected this person to procedures pertaining to THEIR bodies leaving THEM dead not the decision makers.

There is a misrepresentation that modern medicine always saves people. Sometimes people are brave enough to know that death is possible/probable and they choose quality of life over quantity.

This only becomes more true when it is attached to one's religion because the freedom re: practicing of one's religion is the bases of the constitution.

What happened to seeing death as a part of life. If this 13 year old had lymphoma 30 years ago he would have lived well for as long as he could and then would have likely died with his family around his bed.
Jan

Victoria, Canada

#2 May 23, 2009
Glaxo wrote:
This article states that a person of knowledge has 'never' heard of anyone ( meaning the mother) to take matters in her own hands against what the state is saying.Her response seems to be one of disbelief.
The people who do not normally take their families for traditional medicine are not being tracked at all so what could she comment on. Some get well and some pass on and die as undiagnosed until death. She has probably heard of a few of those where people have been charged with neglect.
I strongly believe that if they are going to jail people who refuse treatment, or the parents of people who impede it, they must also jail members of the medical team in a hospital if they fail to save the patient. They will have subjected this person to procedures pertaining to THEIR bodies leaving THEM dead not the decision makers.
There is a misrepresentation that modern medicine always saves people. Sometimes people are brave enough to know that death is possible/probable and they choose quality of life over quantity.
This only becomes more true when it is attached to one's religion because the freedom re: practicing of one's religion is the bases of the constitution.
What happened to seeing death as a part of life. If this 13 year old had lymphoma 30 years ago he would have lived well for as long as he could and then would have likely died with his family around his bed.
What happened to seeing death as a part of life? Modern science, that's what. And modern laws against child abuse.
Glaxo

Winnipeg, Canada

#3 May 24, 2009
I responded but it seems to have gotten lost in cyberspace oh well,

Modern Science
Okay
Thalidomide
Avandia
Celebrex
Anti depressants that had a side effect for teenagers that resulted in suicide attempts some with success.
Drugs for schizophrenia that have such awful side effects that it is almost impossible to keep them on them.
Recent press releases about the amount of mistakes made in hospitals including drug errors, more than I feel comfortable with.
Prognosis is always prefaced by, " of course there are always exceptions but..."
MSR infections
Shortage of staff in hospitals that leads not only to error but also poor care and demoralization of staff.
New practice by many doctors to advise patients that they will only call them back if there is a problem. Tons of cases where results were filed and patients found out later about their problem or too late! They could get a lesser paid individual call to say the results are alright once they have seen them.They discourage patients from calling them. Women with cancer in Thompson died because of that one.It is happening in other places too.
Tainted blood given to people causing hepatitis.
I could go on for hours.
You wonder why any one questions modern science.

CHILD ABUSE
Law in Canada states that anyone who has knowledge of child abuse is required to report it to the police.

Picture this Sicily 1999 - just kidding,
An eight year old child is in the hall at school on his way to class. Another child is yelled at and told to throw his slurpee cup in the garbage. Before that child has time to do so a male teacher picks him up and throws him against the lockers. Child number two is horrified because he has never seen an adult do that to a child and is expecting a teacher to be one of the good guys. He is frozen by what he sees. Another teacher who hears the noise comes out and catches the play,I guess. She tells child number 2 to go to his class.No one responds or thinks that the kid was traumatized by witnessing the act of brutality.

Did the school call the police - no.

They held an in camera session. The teacher and a board of peers met alone with the teacher. Parents could not participate.

What did they talk about, I don`t know, how to avoid telling the superintendent, whether the teacher should take some time off for stress,.

The teacher was not put off for stress leave. It was the beginning of the year. The child was reprimanded and it was explained to his family that he had been told not to bring slurpees inside.

Child number two was my nephew, 10 years older and wiser now.

How have catholic schools gotten away with so much sexual abuse even within the past ten years. It keeps coming up. People make complaints to the church but do they call the police when they suspect their own - not often.

Usually a priest will be sent somewhere quietly for treatment sometimes even outside of the country.

Law doesn`t apply to teachers or priests I guess.

Child and Family Services comes in and takes kids out of bad homes and puts them in worse places. Well gee, there was a political agenda the child should have been kept with family members. That is protection.

What are you expecting from people with the comment that you offered. People have to think for themselves.

Add to that, that there is a religious component which is coming into conflict with the Constitution of their country.
Jan wrote:
<quoted text>What happened to seeing death as a part of life? Modern science, that's what. And modern laws against child abuse.

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