Alamogordo superintendent's PED heari...

Alamogordo superintendent's PED hearing delayed

There are 374 comments on the Alamogordo Daily News story from Apr 24, 2009, titled Alamogordo superintendent's PED hearing delayed. In it, Alamogordo Daily News reports that:

Alamogordo Public Schools Superintendent Mike Harris is facing charges to be heard by the state Public Education Department.

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Since: Jun 08

Santa Fe, NM

#1 Apr 25, 2009
Wow! Why is APS management so incompetent? Has been for so many years. Ever since Stan Rounds left, this administration has gone so far down hill, it's not even funny. Our children suffer. They deny everything of course but there must be enough there to convene the PED board. This really stinks of malfeasance!
Well

Rio Rancho, NM

#2 Apr 25, 2009
Now dang it Elva, you go and print the facts of this case and now all of the conspiracy folks will have to find something else to whine about.
DeeDee Ramone

United States

#3 Apr 25, 2009
Finally..someone is listening.
Robyn

Alamogordo, NM

#4 Apr 25, 2009
I am wondering how something like this could happen in Alamogordo Public Schools. How is this going to make our school system look to other school systems.
BOB

Albuquerque, NM

#5 Apr 25, 2009
Robyn wrote:
I am wondering how something like this could happen in Alamogordo Public Schools. How is this going to make our school system look to other school systems.
The bomb threats already made us look bad.
Proven Angry

Rio Rancho, NM

#7 Apr 25, 2009
Has the Board of Education turned their head on this matter by putting it off on the New Mexico Public Education Department???

Has two Board of Education members resigned over this, Halbig and Pittman????

Why are we as community members just hearing about Board of Education member’s concerns with this man????

How many Alamogordo Board of Education Policies need to ignored before the Board of Education is held accountable???

Is malfeasance by this Board of Education happening???

What happened to following the Board of Education Policies???
What happened to following the State of New Mexico Laws???
What happened to following the New Mexico Public Education Department Policies???

Wasn't this Superintendent picked as Interim Superintendent without input from the community before being hired as the permanent Superintendent by knowing someone???

Wasn't he in place of oversight of the district as Interim Superintendent, before a full background investigation was accomplished????

As this article quotes Dr. Rickman, he is the local Board of Education’s responsibility. He is the Board's only employee, right?????
I know

Albuquerque, NM

#8 Apr 25, 2009
You think 'Stan the Man' was so great? Please, please TAKE HIM BACK!

LCPS can't take much more of him!

pnc

“Whatever”

Since: Dec 07

Alamogordo, NM

#9 Apr 25, 2009
Our school system has gone so far off the track. It would be ridiculous at this point if our kids' education wasn't at stake.
alamo mom

Alamogordo, NM

#10 Apr 25, 2009
If Mr. Kilmer is running around at the High School during school hours when he is supposed to be at Holloman Middle School, why hasn't anyone asked Mrs. Showalter why she isn't keeping a better eye on her teacher?
oh myg

Albuquerque, NM

#11 Apr 25, 2009
Let the truth be told and we as a community should not let matters such as these be swept under the carpet. Since the beginning of Mr. Harris' hiring there have been questionable actions by board and process of his hiring. The process of hiring Ms. Kilmer as principal remains questionable in my mind. Since Ms. Kilmer took head principal both kids and teachers have suffered the consequences of her own misguidance, not to mention her assistant principals disrespect for students and staff. So I think to make it right this board of education better start looking at how they hire/fire superintendents and how the sup. hires principals, especially when we all know Harris & Kilmer are close friends and not to mention how Dr. Rickman and his gang have become close friends if you haven't been watching they all hang out together wherever you the Doctors Rickman and Dotson there will be the Harris and the Kilmers. So don't tell me there hasn't been some very dirty school politics happening in this town. But this we as citizens of this community should (unlike in the past) have the right to be heard. They have been manipulating policies, curriculums, etc. without our voices. They go through all the right motions to make people believe our voices are heard but when it is all said and done they do what they so choose (very small group decides what is best for my kid). So keep the truth rolling through the news and is there a way we can all be at the hearings scheduled that are being talked about? Are they public hearings? If anyone knows let the rest of us know. I'm tired of goig to board meetings and their misrepresentation of this community. I say we should not continue to allow their way of dirty politics continue.
Disgusting

Los Lunas, NM

#12 Apr 25, 2009
alamo mom wrote:
If Mr. Kilmer is running around at the High School during school hours when he is supposed to be at Holloman Middle School, why hasn't anyone asked Mrs. Showalter why she isn't keeping a better eye on her teacher?
Where does it say that Mrs. Showalter has not tried to keep an eye on her teacher? It appears that he probably has friends in high places that would make her efforts futile.
Michael Morris

United States

#13 Apr 25, 2009
How about that? The Libelest even knew Kilmer's license was not suspended until after his hire. Seems maybe the Lord of the Scam, convicted perjurer and all around fraud should have mentioned that part, you think?

Just how much more convincing do you people need?
no limits

Norwalk, CA

#15 Apr 25, 2009
Michael Morris wrote:
<quoted text>
Rickman said the Committee vote was 100% in favor of the hiring Harris. In the other thread I kept reading how the community was shut out of all of this. The Libelist and his minions have represented this to make it appear as if Harris was hired in some secret chamber.
Make sure to get your copy of The Spokesmen for the real truth.
So... you polled/questioned ALL the members of the committee and each one told you they voted 100% in favor of hiring Harris? Wow - you have been busy!
No issue

Albuquerque, NM

#16 Apr 25, 2009
Why is it that the Spokesman articles aren't considered legitimate (by some people) until the ADN says it. Glad so many put pressure on the ADN and forced their hand here. For a moment it looked like news was being suppressed for one reason or another.

One correction though. Mrs. Kilmer was interviewed for assistant principal. Others were also at AHS to be interviewed, but from what I hear, there was a phone call made from the Sup's office (NOT PERSONNEL) directing then principal Jaramillo to hire Mrs. K after her interview was over. Ask the applicant D. Torrez. He was at AHS to interview for the same assistant principal position and was granted an interview that afternoon. He identified Mrs. K. as one of the folks who interviewed him for the very job they had already given to her.(Review that spokesman article).

Mr. Jaramillo was pushed out as principal to make room for Harris's pals.

Mr. Quinones (Harris's attorney) states in the ADN article that Mr. Harris sees all this from his own "point of view" and of course, he is innocent.

Another troubling point is the fact that Board President Rickman seems to want to allow the district to handle the application lies. If PED oversees licensing, curriculum, budgets, school accountability, etc., how is it Rickman believes that the district application Harris submitted (that has false statements on it) doesn't concern PED? Oh wait, Rickman contradicts himself in the ADN article. He was quoted as saying (in speaking to Halbig about the board getting involved) the charges against Harris were between Harris and PED - they were not anything the board should be handling. But then he says PED shouldn't deal with the application at the district level. Make up your mind, doc!

The board has taken care of enough. Arent Rickman and Dodson close with Harris? So close, in fact, that The Spokesman reporter presented emails that circulated between these folks before Harris even got the job. hmmm

If parents, teachers, and community members allow the local board to handle some of these charges at the district level (and I hope to GOD PED doesn't even consider that), then the people in this town don't want a say and don't deserve a voice.

It is time PED was involved. This has gone on too long. Rickman states statutory law. Well, state statutes state that school boards can't get involved in personnel issues (beyond the Sup) yet ours has. The statutes are specific about having a license or credentials to teach/coach, but the board and Sup have ignored that on occasion. The statutes also state that PED has ultimate authority to suspend a board and start over if necessary. It is time PED deems this action should be taken, in my opinion.

Kudos to The Spokesman paper and Karl Anderson who broke the story first. At least someone out there still believes in timely reporting. Thank you again, Mr. Anderson.
Michael Morris

United States

#17 Apr 25, 2009
no limits wrote:
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So... you polled/questioned ALL the members of the committee and each one told you they voted 100% in favor of hiring Harris? Wow - you have been busy!
You are right. Rickman must be lying. Perhaps Karl needs to find a member who says otherwise.
Actually lives in Alamo

La Luz, NM

#18 Apr 25, 2009
As someone who has lived in Alamogordo a long time, has kids now in the schools, let me put alittle history, and opinion, forward: In my opinion, this Harris business is just sour grapes from people associated with the "previous school administration!" 4 to 5 years ago the school board had a massive turnover when almost all the old members were turned out by the voters. The new elected school board "cleaned house" and brought in Harris to fix/improve things, including "Block Scheduling", anyone remember that fiasco? Well, the old cronies didn't like being given the boot, and now they're trying to get revenge by whatever means they can. I support the present school board and Harris.
wondering

Albuquerque, NM

#19 Apr 25, 2009
Michael Morris wrote:
How about that? The Libelest even knew Kilmer's license was not suspended until after his hire. Seems maybe the Lord of the Scam, convicted perjurer and all around fraud should have mentioned that part, you think?
Just how much more convincing do you people need?
Mr. Morris.

Mr. Kilmer's incident occured prior to August (according to TX UIL - two members responded to my phone call inquiry) but since their board didn't meet on actions until August, they didn't decide on the suspension until that time. Then, the UIL Newsletter wasn't publicly printed until September and that's when several parents sent that newsletter on Kilmer's license suspension to the higher ups at APS, and by Sept 20, 2007, it had found its way to the media.

The incident in Lubbock county where Kilmer was alleged of "inappropriate conduct towards an official" occurred and consequences (acording again to members of the UIL board) were quickly imposed. Harris knew about it. Harris himself was quoted as saying that Harris supported Kilmer after the allegations, and that the allegations against his pal, Eddie Kilmer, were totally false.

Sure seems like a lot of unrelated people in two different states keep accusing these friends of things that aren't true. Wow. What a conspiracy.

So, Mr. Morris, your wife posts a congratulatory blog to Elva with the ADN for 'finally reporting the facts.' As many of us recall, Mr. Anderson said that the info was in the hands of the ADN over a year ago. Finally, an outlet emerges where the FACTS can come out, and you totaly dismiss them as lies. But when Elva and the ADN present the same story (somewhat un-fashionably later), your wife is happy that the truth is told.

Mr. Anderson told the truth. You just have some warped personal vendetta against him and everyone on topix is aware of your jealous obsession.

Either way, everyone knows now so you'll need to seek out a new conspiracy theory, pal.
Texas teacher

Albuquerque, NM

#20 Apr 25, 2009
Michael Morris wrote:
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I don't know if it ever occured to you that the task of finding an actual quality Supt. out here in dustville with schools on the verge of a state takeover might be challenging. The candidate favored by a lot of the whiners was the promote-from-within candidate from the previous failed administration.
Toward the bottom of this page is a list of the Past TX Supers of the Year -> http://www.tasb.org/services/communications/r...
Under 2004 you find Mr. Harris. The reasons for the award will explain why they chose Harris in this particular scenario. Rickman said the Committee vote was 100% in favor of the hiring Harris. In the other thread I kept reading how the community was shut out of all of this. The Libelist and his minions have represented this to make it appear as if Harris was hired in some secret chamber.
Make sure to get your copy of The Spokesmen for the real truth.
The Superintendent of the Year designation does nothing more than enable one district to allow a guy to shine so they can more easily get rid of him and another district doesn't hesitate to take him on.

Haven't you ever left a job under bad circumstances and then received a glowing recommendation from them?

Use your brain!!
no limits

Norwalk, CA

#21 Apr 25, 2009
Michael Morris wrote:
<quoted text>
You are right. Rickman must be lying. Perhaps Karl needs to find a member who says otherwise.
Not all people get their facts from Karl of the Spokesmen! Don't assume that is where I get mine. I will have to tell my colleague who was on the committee that you know better than her.
wondering

Albuquerque, NM

#22 Apr 25, 2009
Michael Morris wrote:
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I don't know if it ever occured to you that the task of finding an actual quality Supt. out here in dustville with schools on the verge of a state takeover might be challenging. The candidate favored by a lot of the whiners was the promote-from-within candidate from the previous failed administration.
Toward the bottom of this page is a list of the Past TX Supers of the Year -> http://www.tasb.org/services/communications/r...
Under 2004 you find Mr. Harris. The reasons for the award will explain why they chose Harris in this particular scenario. Rickman said the Committee vote was 100% in favor of the hiring Harris. In the other thread I kept reading how the community was shut out of all of this. The Libelist and his minions have represented this to make it appear as if Harris was hired in some secret chamber.
Make sure to get your copy of The Spokesmen for the real truth.
The information on Kilmer's licensure suspension was reported in the ADN as soon as it came to light. If the ADN knew about it in September, then you KNOW Harris and Kilmer knew about it before that and hired him anyway, allowing Kilmer to coach without a license. Don't you think that Harris or Kilmer had some responsibility to let the athletic director or other coaches know about the issue?

My big question for Harris and Kilmer is why they waited to remedy Kilmer's "no coaching license" circumstance until Mr. Anderson began working on the story. Mr. Anderson's story ran on September 21. The other article states that this reporter called Harris and Kilmer for comments about the issue on Sept 20th. Kilmer's coaching license application to PED was not even completed and faxed to PED until they knew someone was looking into the situation. Kilmer's license is dated Sept 20th, the same day Harris knew they needed to cover their tails.

If Mr. Anderson reported anything, you, Mr. Morris would find fault with it. He could report that some enemy nation plans to fire on Holloman AFB (hypothetically, of course), and you would be denying his claims and labeling him still, even from the bottom of your smoking crater.

At least we know.

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