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I was only involved with ACN for a very short time, about 20 days. Obviously the 10-day refund request deadline is ridiculous as it is not near enough time to get past all the ACN propaganda and find out what the ACN scam is really all about. Regardless, after about 30 days I informed my ACN upline representative that ACN wasn't right for me and I was no longer going to be involved. The only people I signed up for ACN were my mother and myself. Also, I regret that I recruited a neighbor.

My perception of the ACN “business opportunity” was vastly different than the reality. The ACN upline representative hounded me to join ACN for nearly a year. Each time I told him I was NOT interested in MLM. Unfortunately, he was very persuasive and persistent, and in a weak moment, he finally convinced me that ACN was vastly different from other MLMs.

The difference was the product. ACN was offering huge discounts on utility bills. However, it wasn't long before I realized ACN was just another MLM pyramid scam. In most cases, there were no discounts. In fact, in my area ACN was much higher than most other utilities - even the leading providers. The bottom line was that my customers were supposed to stay with ACN because they were friends and family and I had asked them for a "huge" favor. It was disgusting!

I was even pressured to sign up my mother as a customer for ACN Energy by my upline trainer. Although I told him she was in the process of selling her house, he assured me that she would not suffer extra charges if she had to move shortly after becoming an ACN customer. This was not true!

I was greatly embarrassed when my poor 76 year old mother was sent a collection notice for not paying a bill for services after she was no longer living in the house and had cancelled service with ACN (ACN requires a 30 day cancellation notice whether you live in the house or not!). This experience proved to me that it would have been disastrous for me to have signed up 20-50 of my good friends and relatives.

Obviously, ACN was not the right choice for me. I should not lose $499 just because it took me a little longer than 10 days to discover the true nature of ACN, particularly since my indecision was due to high-pressure tactics and misrepresentations. Maybe there are thousands of people out there making money through ACN, but my conscious would not allow me to be part of this organization.

After a great deal of effort I was able to acquire a $100 refund for the 2 sales kits I had purchased. By the way, these kits are worthless and a joke - worth no more than $5 each. Yet, I am still out $1052! In addition to my personal loss of $449, I felt obligated to cover my neighbor's $449 loss as well as my mother's $154 overcharge.

I wish I knew how to retrieve the rest of my money. I contacted the Texas Public Utility Commission (I live in Houston, Texas), but they were absolutely no help. I'm considering filing a lawsuit in small claims court against ACN, but I do not know whom to sue (i.e. my ACN upline trainer, ACN, Gregory Provenzano - ACN President, or someone else?). And, do I have to file in Michigan?

Also, I plan to file a complaint with the State Attorney General and anyone else that matters. Unfortunately, this all takes time. I guess that's what these scam artist count on. If anyone has any suggestions, I will be extremely grateful!

Ken
Kingwood, Texas
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Feb 13, 2010
 

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those get rich schemes are, how do you say it?... schemes.
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BART wrote:
I was only involved with ACN for a very short time, about 20 days. Obviously the 10-day refund request deadline is ridiculous as it is not near enough time to get past all the ACN propaganda and find out what the ACN scam is really all about. Regardless, after about 30 days I informed my ACN upline representative that ACN wasn't right for me and I was no longer going to be involved. The only people I signed up for ACN were my mother and myself. Also, I regret that I recruited a neighbor.
My perception of the ACN “business opportunity” was vastly different than the reality. The ACN upline representative hounded me to join ACN for nearly a year. Each time I told him I was NOT interested in MLM. Unfortunately, he was very persuasive and persistent, and in a weak moment, he finally convinced me that ACN was vastly different from other MLMs.
The difference was the product. ACN was offering huge discounts on utility bills. However, it wasn't long before I realized ACN was just another MLM pyramid scam. In most cases, there were no discounts. In fact, in my area ACN was much higher than most other utilities - even the leading providers. The bottom line was that my customers were supposed to stay with ACN because they were friends and family and I had asked them for a "huge" favor. It was disgusting!
I was even pressured to sign up my mother as a customer for ACN Energy by my upline trainer. Although I told him she was in the process of selling her house, he assured me that she would not suffer extra charges if she had to move shortly after becoming an ACN customer. This was not true!
I was greatly embarrassed when my poor 76 year old mother was sent a collection notice for not paying a bill for services after she was no longer living in the house and had cancelled service with ACN (ACN requires a 30 day cancellation notice whether you live in the house or not!). This experience proved to me that it would have been disastrous for me to have signed up 20-50 of my good friends and relatives.
Obviously, ACN was not the right choice for me. I should not lose $499 just because it took me a little longer than 10 days to discover the true nature of ACN, particularly since my indecision was due to high-pressure tactics and misrepresentations. Maybe there are thousands of people out there making money through ACN, but my conscious would not allow me to be part of this organization.
After a great deal of effort I was able to acquire a $100 refund for the 2 sales kits I had purchased. By the way, these kits are worthless and a joke - worth no more than $5 each. Yet, I am still out $1052! In addition to my personal loss of $449, I felt obligated to cover my neighbor's $449 loss as well as my mother's $154 overcharge.
I wish I knew how to retrieve the rest of my money. I contacted the Texas Public Utility Commission (I live in Houston, Texas), but they were absolutely no help. I'm considering filing a lawsuit in small claims court against ACN, but I do not know whom to sue (i.e. my ACN upline trainer, ACN, Gregory Provenzano - ACN President, or someone else?). And, do I have to file in Michigan?
Also, I plan to file a complaint with the State Attorney General and anyone else that matters. Unfortunately, this all takes time. I guess that's what these scam artist count on. If anyone has any suggestions, I will be extremely grateful!
Ken
Kingwood, Texas
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A sucker is born every second, now who said that. Was it PT Barnum?
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call the offices of the beautiful Governmess in Rawleigh...she has a dept for this kind of mischief of course...
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fastsam wrote:
A sucker is born every second, now who said that. Was it PT Barnum?
Yes I believe it was.
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Well, since you used the funds to start a business, you can write it off on your taxes next year as a business expense. Sorry it didn't work out well for you.
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I completely agree with this guy! After getting a pathetic "bonus " after tons of time and money I put into this thing, I'm no longer in ACN ! You find out after it's too late that your upline is making all the money off your efforts! Borelli's a good "story teller" !!!!!!!!
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It’s a pyramid scheme which uses Neuro-Linguistic Programming to dupe people into attending a meeting at which they will be “hooked”, and then trying to keep them asleep long enough to con a $499 deposit free from them.
When I had the misfortune to be invited to one of these things, the brainwashing techniques used on me included
1) My inviter misleading me over the subject of the first meeting. She asked me if I could attend to give her moral support as she gave a business speech. The real reason was to get me to start selling ACN products. ACN members are actually instructed to lie to the people they try to recruit over the nature of the first meeting.
2) Once at the meeting, a lot of moral pressure is applied to get you to sign up. You see, ACN only wants the best for you. They also imply you’ll be letting the person who invited you down if you don’t sign up, as that person requires you to be part of their team before they can get their money back.
3) They don’t actually tell you about the money you’ll be losing, mind. They simply give you a form with space for you to fill in your banking details. If they see you hesitating (as they did me) they tell you they’re being very kind to you in setting you up in business for “just”$499, as most business people have to spend thousands on overheads.
4) It’s hypocritical of ACN types to criticise the negativity of those of us who try to open people’s eyes. ACN themselves try to poison the minds of the people they are trying to con against anyone who points out that ACN is a pyramid scheme. New recruits are instructed to think of such people as “rotten apples”.
5) Attendees of an ACN meeting are ordered to make a list of everyone they know within 48 hours and regard every one of them as potential business clients. Perhaps they’re worried the would-be recruits might start to wake up from the brainwashing after two full days?
6) They also order new people who are duped into attending their meetings to organsise a meeting at home of their five closest friends, in order to announce their entrance into business. ACN also plan to attend this meeting. IN Britain, ACN dupes have 14 days in which they can wake up and gets their deposit back in full. Presumably the purpose of this meeting is to make it harder emotionally for them to do that.
My heart goes out to anyone who has lost money to this horrible, unethical company. Although I could see through what they were trying to do, it was still a horrid experience to be duped by a close friend into attending that first meeting. Whatever BS they feed you, remember this:
ACN are ONLY interested in your deposit fee. They know you are statistically unlikely to make money as you’ll quickly run out of people to sell to.
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Caveat Emptor wrote:
It’s a pyramid scheme which uses Neuro-Linguistic Programming to dupe people into attending a meeting at which they will be “hooked”, and then trying to keep them asleep long enough to con a $499 deposit free from them.
When I had the misfortune to be invited to one of these things, the brainwashing techniques used on me included
1) My inviter misleading me over the subject of the first meeting. She asked me if I could attend to give her moral support as she gave a business speech. The real reason was to get me to start selling ACN products. ACN members are actually instructed to lie to the people they try to recruit over the nature of the first meeting.
2) Once at the meeting, a lot of moral pressure is applied to get you to sign up. You see, ACN only wants the best for you. They also imply you’ll be letting the person who invited you down if you don’t sign up, as that person requires you to be part of their team before they can get their money back.
3) They don’t actually tell you about the money you’ll be losing, mind. They simply give you a form with space for you to fill in your banking details. If they see you hesitating (as they did me) they tell you they’re being very kind to you in setting you up in business for “just”$499, as most business people have to spend thousands on overheads.
4) It’s hypocritical of ACN types to criticise the negativity of those of us who try to open people’s eyes. ACN themselves try to poison the minds of the people they are trying to con against anyone who points out that ACN is a pyramid scheme. New recruits are instructed to think of such people as “rotten apples”.
5) Attendees of an ACN meeting are ordered to make a list of everyone they know within 48 hours and regard every one of them as potential business clients. Perhaps they’re worried the would-be recruits might start to wake up from the brainwashing after two full days?
6) They also order new people who are duped into attending their meetings to organsise a meeting at home of their five closest friends, in order to announce their entrance into business. ACN also plan to attend this meeting. IN Britain, ACN dupes have 14 days in which they can wake up and gets their deposit back in full. Presumably the purpose of this meeting is to make it harder emotionally for them to do that.
My heart goes out to anyone who has lost money to this horrible, unethical company. Although I could see through what they were trying to do, it was still a horrid experience to be duped by a close friend into attending that first meeting. Whatever BS they feed you, remember this:
ACN are ONLY interested in your deposit fee. They know you are statistically unlikely to make money as you’ll quickly run out of people to sell to.
Hmmmmmm. An educated erudite person. Is this Joel Stevenson aka Stevie? Jeez, Joel, are you still living with that abrasive virago?
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The Simpsons wrote:
those get rich schemes are, how do you say it?... schemes.
sometimes it takes more than 20 days to get a bussness running. have you ever started a real bussness before? it takes alot more than 500 dollars. dont be a winny quiter!!
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BEWARE
The money dries up when the recruiting stops.
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Idontgiveup wrote:
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sometimes it takes more than 20 days to get a bussness running. have you ever started a real bussness before? it takes alot more than 500 dollars. dont be a winny quiter!!
A winny quiter we shall all try not to be.

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First, someone needs to research the definition of "pyramid Scheme". Upon doing so they will find that ACN does not fit in the least. Secondly, it is unfortunate that there are people, in every walk of life and business type, who will misrepresent their product, service or company. If it's any consolation you should know that if you were not successful, or quit ACN, the person who recruited you made no money, nor did anyone else up the line. ACN is a company that gives in abundance to those willing to work for themselves and gives in abundance to charitable organizations. Personally, I am saving money every month on the ACN services and we don't ask anyone to be a customer unless it does save them money. Lastly, we do not ever pressure someone to become a business partner. We simply share the information on this business opportunity and let them decide if it is for them or not. If you pressure someone to sign up you will have to pressure them every day to take the steps to success and we don't want to waste time babysitting unmotivated people.
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success is created by 3 things... Important things
1. must have a drive
2. must have a desire
3. must be coachable to a system
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fastsam wrote:
A sucker is born every second, now who said that. Was it PT Barnum?
Are you sure it wasn't Axelrod or Rahm Emmanuel?
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Yes Acn is a scam and the Gorvernment and Lawyers are in on it. If it's such a scam why don't you people try to sue the company? If it didn't work out for you. But You can't sue because that would make you look foolish in court because it would be like sueing any corperate company because they use the same structure. You know the McDonalds you eat at? They are ran just like ACN. Dumb fucks. plus it takes a lot longer to see a profit fro a McDonalds than ACN.
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Larry wrote:
Yes Acn is a scam and the Gorvernment and Lawyers are in on it. If it's such a scam why don't you people try to sue the company? If it didn't work out for you. But You can't sue because that would make you look foolish in court because it would be like sueing any corperate company because they use the same structure. You know the McDonalds you eat at? They are ran just like ACN. Dumb fucks. plus it takes a lot longer to see a profit fro a McDonalds than ACN.
Would you like to enroll in a remedial English class?
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All of these comments are hilarious. Good job to the people who have realized what they have there hands on with ACN. I can tell you with my story I don't care how persuasive anyone is I make my own choices. I am a no bs person and I am certainly not a person who could be brainwashed! I know that this company stands for loyalty and integrity and for those people who could not see this I am truly sorry for you. You truly have missed out. Number one if you don't work it wont work! It is a business hello! I am just starting out and have a great team and awesome support! I just saved a customer $600 on there dish bill for the year! They were very happy!! Our services can save people money and like it was said not everyone! I certainly wouldn't sign a customer up if I cost them more money that's ridiculous! It is your business to run the way you want and I do! My reps are very happy and again I didn't pressure them they made their own choice! So thank you ACN for coming in to my life and creating more choices for my family!!!
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All of these comments are hilarious. Good job to the people who have realized what they have there hands on with ACN. I can tell you with my story I don't care how persuasive anyone is I make my own choices. I am a no bs person and I am certainly not a person who could be brainwashed! I know that this company stands for loyalty and integrity and for those people who could not see this I am truly sorry for you. You truly have missed out. Number one if you don't work it wont work! It is a business hello! I am just starting out and have a great team and awesome support! I just saved a customer $600 on there dish bill for the year! They were very happy!! Our services can save people money and like it was said not everyone! I certainly wouldn't sign a customer up if I cost them more money that's ridiculous! It is your business to run the way you want and I do! My reps are very happy and again I didn't pressure them they made their own choice! So thank you ACN for coming in to my life and creating more choices for my family!!!
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