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Bar N Y Rubble

Asheville, NC

#2 Jul 11, 2014
Dixie Hillbilly wrote:
See the news? Obama playing pool rather than going to the border to see first hand the wave of immigrant children? Ranchers along the border in Texas are saying it is common to find bodies on their land of immigrants fighting the harsh desert conditions trying to get inland. And many of them are CHILDREN. Yet Obama goes to Dallas to collect campaign graft from "donors" and plays pool instead of going to the border to see first hand the 16,000 children in holding areas.
It's time to seriously proceed with impeachment. Obama is hurting our country in many many ways. From trading a deserter for 5 Al Queda Murderer terrorist leaders to the IRS scandal. Obama has to go for the good of the country. We need another President Ronald W Reagan! We need a REAL leader and a CHRISTIAN president that values America's traditions and exception place in the world.
Righto. I cannot believe Obama hasn't been impeached already. If he wasn't protected by the liberal manstream press, he would've been gone a long time ago ala Nixon.
Jim Ed Cunningham

Asheville, NC

#3 Jul 11, 2014
Obama has got to be the LAZIEST president we have ever had. I think he just ran so he could ride in a limo, ride in a private jet, and have all these expensive weekend vacations paid for by the US working taxpayer. IMPEACH this mistake NOW!

Asheville, NC

#5 Jul 17, 2014
Obama is the laziest don't-give-a-hoot president we have ever had. he needs to be fired.
Red Square

Asheville, NC

#6 Jul 19, 2014
Obama is the laziest don't-give-a-hoot president we have ever had. he needs to be fired.
Cullen Anderson

Hendersonville, NC

#9 Jul 20, 2014
If TOPIX wont change, the law will have to
While Cyberbullying and online defamation are a huge issue right now, the majority of web sites will moderate abusive posts and almost without exception, posts of all kind are taken down over time. While there needs to be more and increasing ways that site moderation can curb the problem, Topix stands apart from these by not taking any sort of organizational ethical stand against abuse on its forums. It is true that Topix will occasionally take something down if it is really obvious (though its surprising how bad it must be for this to happen) as well as if something is going to create negative media attention for them. But these are isolated cases and the question will always remain, how Topix will decide if statements made about people which Topix can't evaluate (ie - someone had an affair, or was arrested in some far away place or slept with someone) are true or not. If they can't even moderate their volume of forums, how on earth can they evaluate the actual posts? Well, they can't.

So, without any sort of ethical action by Topix, and the opportunity for other companies to come in and do just what Topix does (without even having to aggregate news!) what changes in the LAW might address this problem. I want to first say that it is SAD that we even need a law because it seems so obvious that any company who is in the media business would be willing to exist on such an unethical platform, but we guess that the money is more important to TOPIX than anything else.

Okay, so lets first remind ourselves, as if we need to hear it again and again, that the constitution protects free speech. The courts broadly interpret this, even going so far as to say that media companies don't really HAVE to tell the truth. They just should do it, if they want to be respected. Media companies have gotten into trouble before when they have erroneously reported things and ended up having to post retractions and hurt their reliability.

Laws do exist though that allow one to be sued if their free speech causes measurable monetary or physical harm to another. There have been successful defamation lawsuits, but they are outrageously expensive, taken years to complete and almost always are covered by media. They have to prove countable monetary damage and many people who are defamed just aren't worth that much money. Juries do not award much for pain and suffering, other than in the case of death or physical injury, and so even winning might not yield alot of money.

For this reason, the average person has neither the means, nor the desire for public attention to successfully sue for defamation. The number of people who think they can go just get their lawyer to send a 20 page packet to the court and get this done is staggering compared with the number of people who successfully walk away with 10 million dollar settlements.

So, how do we bridge the gap for the average American who is attacked, abused, defamed or bullied on a website like Topix, for whom a lawsuit is just not practical.

IDEA ONE - The Swiss system (see below). In this system, a person who is named on the internet has certain rights to know who wrote their name. There are hardships assembling laws this way because the US prides itself on freedom to speak out about government corruption and other public figures. Imagine if Bernie Madoff or Michael Jackson had the right to know who wrote about them online? A way around this is to determine if the person is a public figure, which the laws do tend to define in black and white ways. In this case, a non-public person, has rights to know what has been said about them. Does this inhibit free speech? Not really. It just says that if you chose to WRITE IT PUBLICLY, then you will have to be responsible for it.

Boston, MA

#10 Jul 20, 2014
Thomas Hoffman lives! I thought maybe the wife had made good on her threat to disconnect you from the internet permanently. Or are you online somewhere else? Anyway, you are obsessing again. Just let the trolls rail on and ignore them like I do. They get bored and quit after a while.

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