Judge dismisses South Dakota and Nebr...

Judge dismisses South Dakota and Nebraska tribes' lawsuit against Keystone Pipeline

There are 17 comments on the KFOR-TV Oklahoma City story from Oct 4, 2009, titled Judge dismisses South Dakota and Nebraska tribes' lawsuit against Keystone Pipeline. In it, KFOR-TV Oklahoma City reports that:

A judge has dismissed a federal lawsuit filed by four American Indian tribes from South Dakota and Nebraska in an attempt to stop construction of the TransCanada Keystone Pipeline.

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#1 Oct 5, 2009
No World Court yet for these problems eg. United Nations etc.

http://www.topix.com/forum/ca/halton-hills-on...

There appears to be No Federal Control on these projects Either

http://www.topix.com/forum/ca/halton-hills-on...

that effect local small minded City Hall Councils who have no Idea Outside Their Own local DownTown Business Area BIA Boxes

http://www.topix.com/forum/ca/halton-hills-on...
part 2

Toronto, Canada

#2 Oct 5, 2009
... The local federal Indian tribe is ready to sign away (y)our land ...

PART II: Around 2007 in Old Montreal an exhibition purported that the
Iroquois of the St. Lawrence Valley had disappeared, even though we live
across the river from there. We Mohawks are part of the Iroquois
confederacy. This was supposed to have happened after Cartier arrived
here in the 1500s.

This man we will call, �Suzie-the-Guy& #65533;, around 45 years old, asked us to
oppose the exhibit. He told us he was a Mohawk from Kanehsatake. He
was slight, well-dressed, always wearing black like a priest, with close
cropped hair and a tiny thin itty bitty braid that hung from his crown
to the middle of his back. Long hair would have completely changed his
look. He was secretive, pale, nervous and smoked like a chimney. He
said his mother was Mohawk and never mentioned his father. He did carry
an Indian Affairs Canadian government identity card.

Four of us went to the museum in Old Montreal, another man and a woman
from Kanehsatake. The museum staff got upset over our appearance and
questions. Their aspersion was that Mohawks had mysteriously
disappeared. Our assertion was that we had gone to pick blueberries.
In the end they refunded our money.

Suzie-the-Guy said he had worked for the Roman Catholic church and had
been laid off. He was challenging this. A hearing at the Holiday Inn
in Montreal�s China Town was coming up. He invited Notre Dam to his
hearing. He invited me to a follow up hearing. I still can�t figure
out why he was laid off. Eventually, he apparently lost the case.

During this time he was showing up at my house from 9 to 5 on week days
and making himself useful. He didn�t have a job. He had a steady
income. He never had a cell phone, never mentioned his family or
anything about himself. He liked to take off his shirt and walk around
in the sun tanning himself. �Was he trying to enhance his Indianness�?
I thought.

He would sit at my table, casually ask questions, drive me around or cut
the grass to make himself useful to me.
part 2 continued

Toronto, Canada

#3 Oct 5, 2009
Eventually Notre Dam, Sherry, Suzie-the-Guy and myself started working
together on MNN stories. I would write the stories, Notre Dam would
look them over, Sherry would post them and Suzie-the-Guy would watch.


Then in the summer of 2007 another woman came on the scene. We�ll call
her �Radiant&#65533 ;. She lived in Sharbot Lake, a half hour drive north of
Kingston. A protest was going on there against uranium mining. She
wanted MNN to do a story on it. She found a lot of good information. I
wrote up a few and posted them.

Radiant came to visit me in 2008. She was a 56-year old, tall,
scrawny, toothless woman. She did not wear her teeth which gave her a
funny squished-in look. When she wore them, she was unrecognizable.
She was high strung and told us she suffered from environmentally
induced reactions, whatever that was? There were lots of places she
couldn�t go and foods she couldn�t eat. Surprisingly, she knew lots
about the Haudenosaunee. Eventually she became part of our enclave.

So gradually four strangers had come around me. On June 9th 2009,
Sherry, my daughter and I went to North Bay to attend the doctoral
honoring of one of my friends. We were closely followed for about half
the way by an Ontario Provincial Police cruiser. Sherry was driving and
seemed surprisingly unworried. We got there without incident, attended
the event and then drove back. We dropped Sherry off at her mother�s
home in Akwesasne.

A few days later on June 14th Suzie-the-Guy came over, which was unusual
because it was Saturday. I was getting calls from someone in Sharbot
Lake we�ll call �Space Cadet�. Radiant knew her. Space Cadet wanted
to talk about the Haudenosaunee land claim there. Another guy in
Toronto was urging us to go there. We decided to go.

Suzie-the-Guy agreed to come with me to pick up Sherry in Akwesasne. We
got there. The three of us drove through the US customs and over the
bridge to the Canadian port on Kawenoke, Cornwall Island.

At the checkpoint I got pulled over by the Canada Border Customs Agents.
We waited in the car for an hour without getting any explanation. Then
a squad of about a dozen armed, flak jacketed and gloved border guards
arrived. They surrounded my car. Suzie-the-Guy got out of the car, sat
on the bench in front of the car and silently watched. Nothing happened
to him.

The goons pulled Sherry out of the back seat, threw her to the ground,
gave her a going over and took her away. She suffered scrapes and
bruises, but not serious enough to get medical attention that I know of.

Then they told me to get out of my car. I asked for an explanation.
They yelled, �We don�t have to tell you anything. So get out.�

A freckled fat-faced commander standing near Suzie-the-Guy coordinated
the whole operation, getting instructions on a cell phone. Suddenly he
gave the order, �Take her out!� They roughed me and applied a stress
hold that induced a heart attack.

My brother was in the line up close to the checkpoint. He rushed in.
The goons quickly took off the cuffs and sat me down so my brother
wouldn�t see what they were up to. He yelled, �She�s having a heart
attack. Call an ambulance�. His quick action saved my life.

The attempt to murder me was unsuccessful. I landed in the Cornwall
Ontario hospital. Policemen were everywhere wanting to grab me. My
family placed guards around me. Eventually I returned to Kahnawake.
It took about 8 months to recover, but I have never been the same. My
question to Canada is: was the attack as good as the kill that failed?
Good

United States

#4 Oct 6, 2009
I am so tired of the friggin Indians always getting their way. You got your free land, special tax deals and your casino's, now bugger off.
Nick Roehrman

Eden Prairie, MN

#6 Nov 5, 2009
That's the weirdest drug-induced string of baloney I've ever heard. Incoherent. Go drink some more firewater. Go have some hot coffee, burgers and fries over at Herman Kemp's resort on Red Iron Lake, you faker.
Tricia

Saint Paul, MN

#7 Feb 10, 2011
Good wrote:
I am so tired of the friggin Indians always getting their way. You got your free land, special tax deals and your casino's, now bugger off.
Wait... free land... that rings a bell... hmmm... free land... where have I heard about a large group of people getting, oh, I don't know, an entire country of "free land" that did not belong to them? oh, I remember, it was when the europeans came and desimated an entire population and stole their land. No wonder our children in this country think that life should be somehow easy and effortless. There is a sense of entitlement, we (Americans) seem to think we somehow deserved the land just for sailing boats someplace new, and now we deserve everything else in the world just for being American. The worst part is, all this time later and people like you are complaining that money is being handed out to anybody but you. Oh, and to the idiot complaining about devil water... gee, who intruduced the Native American's to ethyl alcohol.

Bottom line, nobody is asking you to take personal ownership or responsibility of the wrongdoings of the past, but please shut your trap about the very little that actually has and is being done to *try* to do the "right thing".
Anything Goes

Britton, SD

#8 Feb 13, 2011
Tricia wrote:
<quoted text>
Wait... free land... that rings a bell... hmmm... free land... where have I heard about a large group of people getting, oh, I don't know, an entire country of "free land" that did not belong to them? oh, I remember, it was when the europeans came and desimated an entire population and stole their land. No wonder our children in this country think that life should be somehow easy and effortless. There is a sense of entitlement, we (Americans) seem to think we somehow deserved the land just for sailing boats someplace new, and now we deserve everything else in the world just for being American. The worst part is, all this time later and people like you are complaining that money is being handed out to anybody but you. Oh, and to the idiot complaining about devil water... gee, who intruduced the Native American's to ethyl alcohol.
Bottom line, nobody is asking you to take personal ownership or responsibility of the wrongdoings of the past, but please shut your trap about the very little that actually has and is being done to *try* to do the "right thing".
You're kidding... twisted your arms and poured alcohol down your throats. Just because there are guns and they shoot bullets and they can kill people... doesn't mean you should... just because there are drugs and you can abuse them... doesn't mean you should. just because you are native american, doesn't mean you should be compensated for the past... It happened. It happened all the time when it came to territories and countries. It happens yet today.. If there was anyone to get anything from this, it should have been the ones involved, back in the day. We should not have to carry on this 'owing anyone' for generations to come.
Big Jim

Wessington Springs, SD

#9 Feb 19, 2011
to a g's, you are so full of yourself . . .
Anything goes

Sisseton, SD

#10 Feb 25, 2011
Big Jim wrote:
to a g's, you are so full of yourself ...
That would be a good thing. You should try it sometime.
Big JIm

Wessington Springs, SD

#11 Mar 26, 2011
to ag: you need to quit worrying about the Native American People, you do not have anything they desire, and you never will . .
Anything goes

Britton, SD

#12 Mar 28, 2011
Assumptions... You're insinuating, without being very knowlegable. What they desire and what they NEED are two completely different things. Priorities,BJ.
Big Jim

Wessington Springs, SD

#13 Mar 28, 2011
and you know what they need? finally! thank the great Wakantanka .. do tell, we all need to know.
Meso Hohni

Powell River, Canada

#14 Mar 29, 2011
In Canada being born a native places you in "national treasure "status.Here is a small list of what you are entitled to,free cradle to grave health care.Low rent to free housing.Free education all the way through university.Free money,including welfare,band money,tax returns even they do not pay taxes.In this town there seems to be a lot of "just cuz your an indian" money.You are given an excuse not to do anything in your life because your grandaddy was called a bad name by whitey.You get residential school money even if you did not go.You are given freedom from prosecution for things that an regular citizen would go to jail for.In short you are relieved of every responsibility that the rest of us are enslaved to for the rest of our lives.The government has thousands of people on the taxpayers payroll whose jobs are just to cater to every possible need of the natives.The government is busting its ass to give the natives back every square inch of Canada.You can be a native if you have at least one native in your family tree in the last 300 years.Every native born is another 100,000 dollar a year burden on the taxpayers.A native can have a dozen kids with no expectation of responsibility to raise them.Good old whitey will take care of that and you still get your dickie dues even if you have no idea where your kids are.The natives do not deserve anyones pity.I feel bad for us taxpayers who get it up the ass in order to keep the natives happy.I guess the natives are not to blame,as they only are doing what Jesus told them to do,which was not to do anything until he gets back.
Big Jim

Wessington Springs, SD

#15 Mar 29, 2011
in reply to, Meso Hohni ...wow!
Marlene

Canada

#16 Mar 29, 2011
Thank you, bitter, whiny, bitchy, & poor white people (assuming). Thanks for letting me go to university for free.:) Your tax dollars will go to good use, I promise. I won't touch your poison except for when I am at social gatherings. I'm lucky. I have a tolerance! You can all go back to whining now. Peace.
Meso Hohni

Powell River, Canada

#17 Mar 29, 2011
Marlene wrote:
Thank you, bitter, whiny, bitchy, & poor white people (assuming). Thanks for letting me go to university for free.:) Your tax dollars will go to good use, I promise. I won't touch your poison except for when I am at social gatherings. I'm lucky. I have a tolerance! You can all go back to whining now. Peace.
This is a good example as of the respect that the taxpayers get for their sacrifices.By the way,tolerance means to put up with something that annoys you.In that case I have none.All I would like to see in Canada is racial equality and there is none.
Marlene

Canada

#18 Mar 29, 2011
It's called sarcasm, Meso.
Also, tol·er·ance
&#8194; &#8194;/&#712;t&#5 94;l&#601;r&#601;ns/ Show Spelled[tol-er-uhns] Show IPA
–noun
1.
a fair, objective, and permissive attitude toward those whose opinions, practices, race, religion, nationality, etc., differ from one's own; freedom from bigotry.
2.
a fair, objective, and permissive attitude toward opinions and practices that differ from one's own.
3.
interest in and concern for ideas, opinions, practices, etc., foreign to one's own; a liberal, undogmatic viewpoint.
4.
the act or capacity of enduring; endurance: My tolerance of noise is limited.
5.
Medicine/Medical, Immunology .
a.
the power of enduring or resisting the action of a drug, poison, etc.: a tolerance to antibiotics.
b.
the lack of or low levels of immune response to transplanted tissue or other foreign substance that is normally immunogenic.
6.
Machinery .
a.
the permissible range of variation in a dimension of an object. Compare allowance ( def. 8 ).
b.
the permissible variation of an object or objects in some characteristic such as hardness, weight, or quantity.
7.
Also called allowance. Coining . a permissible deviation in the fineness and weight of coin, owing to the difficulty of securing exact conformity to the standard prescribed by law.
As per dictionary.com .

I don't feel sorry for you at all, but it is a little sad that you weren't able to afford a proper education. Again, thanks for paying my way into school (I am also being sarcastic. I feel the need to point this out so you won't be confused):)

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