Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Lilly_Bedwetter

Grandville, MI

#75298 Jul 15, 2014
I just can't figure out how anyone can tell if a person is a Jew or not, makes no sense.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#75299 Jul 16, 2014
HughBe wrote:
Frijoles---I dont have rabbis.
HughBe--- Correct as they have YOU.
Frijoles--- Please stop the master/slave speech. It is hate.`
HughBe--- Facts are facts, my friend and your rabbis are your masters. A slave is not free to do as he or she pleases and such is the state of those in your religion. Your masters are also deluded and to a point that they believe that they can strip anyone of his or her Jewish identity.
you wanted an example of hate and I gave it to you

why do you post hate?
HughBe wrote:
Frijoles---Any Jew who studies the text for real, learns it in the native language. Translations are for Christians and those who lack Hebrew fluency and therefore can not delve into the meanings with depth. Anyone serious about studying the text does so in the native language
HUghBe--- So Chabad has the English version for those FEW Jews who do not study it for real and of course they are also catering to the Christians Jews and otherwise. I find that their charity has no bearing in TRUTH and reality.
English is just a stepping stone to learning in greater depth

GO and ask a Chabad rabbis - they will tell you this. Chabad's mission is education.

dont bother lecturing us on something you are wrong about as usual

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#75300 Jul 16, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
OUTSTANDING:
Frijoles---Most Jews... UNDERSTAND the Hebrew, and therefore the intent
HughBe--- YOU tell me why Chabad has an ENGLISH version of the Tanach if JEWS know Hebrew.
Do NOT dodge as I shall NOT give up on this question.
third time in two days

English is for those that don't know Hebrew. Anyone who really wants to understand Jewish law HAS to learn Hebrew so as to understand the concepts more fully. Any Chabadnik will tell you this

This is the last time I shall waste time on this. Your intellectual stubbornness is an issue you need to grapple with, not us.

moving on
former res

Cheshire, CT

#75301 Jul 16, 2014
Evidence of Huggy's mentality:

1. He continues to cite the words of a founding father from he 18th century with regard to "sodomy" as proof that homosexuality is illegal. Using his logic, slavery would still be the law of the land; child labor too; and black people and women would not be allowed to vote or own land. What a dummy!

2. By his math, 20 is "approximately" 40% of 50. Perhaps according to his savior. I would tend to call 20 exactly 40% of 50.

Back to school for Huggybear!

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#75302 Jul 16, 2014
former res wrote:
Evidence of Huggy's mentality:

Back to school for Huggybear!
Up in your alley...(and Volunteerist - if he hasn't been committed yet)

http://www.salon.com/2014/07/16/i_was_poor_bu...
I was poor, but a GOP die-hard: How I finally left the politics of shame
I hated government -- even as it was the only thing trying to save me. Here's how, one day, I finally saw the light

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#75304 Jul 17, 2014
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Don't get hungry on Sunday.
2. Don't get crushed in the mob waiting for free sandwiches for a year.
I see Jimmy is alive and well. After you read this article, scroll down and read the comments

http://forward.com/articles/201843/jewish-no-... ?
Eric

Aurora, IL

#75305 Jul 17, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
I see Jimmy is alive and well. After you read this article, scroll down and read the comments
http://forward.com/articles/201843/jewish-no-... ?
He must have gotten tired of us.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#75306 Jul 17, 2014
Eric wrote:
<quoted text> He must have gotten tired of us.
I get tired of us too

He may reach a wider audience with the Forward. Can you imagine the slightly more sane audience of that publication trying to understand him? That has to be entertaining.
Eric

Aurora, IL

#75307 Jul 17, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
I get tired of us too
He may reach a wider audience with the Forward. Can you imagine the slightly more sane audience of that publication trying to understand him? That has to be entertaining.
With Jimmie, Abu and Ganja Man laying low, it's been quiet.
Eric

Aurora, IL

#75308 Jul 17, 2014
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>With Jimmie, Abu and Ganja Man laying low, it's been quiet.
or is it Apu.? I was thinking Alladin but it could be Simpsons.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#75309 Jul 17, 2014
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>First, the Supreme Court is the final determiner of the law. It's been that way since the early 1800's in the case of Marbury v. Madison.
Second, you now state that only 12 states have anti sodomy laws. Therefore you are still wrong. That means homosexuality is legal in most states, 38 out of 50.
Give it up, HughBe. You were wrong. Be a man and admit it.
Eric---you now state that only 12 states have anti sodomy laws. Therefore you are still wrong

HughBe---- And YOU are RIGHT when you say, "homosexuality is legal in EACH and EVERY state".

Notwithstanding your correctness above, my point that homosexuality is NOT legal in EACH and EVERY state REMAINS and is supported by the following quote----"A dozen states STILL have anti-sodomy laws on the books 10 years after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled they are unconstitutional.

Also, quote my words that say that homosexuality was legal in EVERY state.

PS: continue to dodge questions and explanations that are required of you.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#75310 Jul 17, 2014
former res wrote:
Evidence of Huggy's mentality:
1. He continues to cite the words of a founding father from he 18th century with regard to "sodomy" as proof that homosexuality is illegal. Using his logic, slavery would still be the law of the land; child labor too; and black people and women would not be allowed to vote or own land. What a dummy!
2. By his math, 20 is "approximately" 40% of 50. Perhaps according to his savior. I would tend to call 20 exactly 40% of 50.
Back to school for Huggybear!
Former---He continues to CITE the words of a founding father from he 18th century with regard to "sodomy" as proof that homosexuality is illegal

HughBe--- Excellent point and no doubt in your mind the following REPEATED quote is from the 18th century.

"A dozen states STILL have anti-sodomy laws on the books 10 years after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled they are unconstitutional."

The 10 years mentioned above would put you in which year?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#75311 Jul 17, 2014
Eric wrote:
<quoted text> He must have gotten tired of us.
I wonder why?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#75312 Jul 17, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
you wanted an example of hate and I gave it to you
why do you post hate?
<quoted text>
English is just a stepping stone to learning in greater depth
GO and ask a Chabad rabbis - they will tell you this. Chabad's mission is education.
dont bother lecturing us on something you are wrong about as usual
You are a HATER of ALL that is good. I need a passage of scripture now.

Oh, I have one.

"WOE unto (YOU) that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#75313 Jul 17, 2014
Question, do you feel that Thomas Jefferson an American Founding Father,LAWYER, and the PRINCIPAL author of the Declaration of Independence and the third President of the United States UNDERSTOOD the Constitution?

Now, IF the American Constitution supported homosexuality, please explain why Jefferson in 1779 " wrote a law in VIRGINIA which contained a PUNISHMENT of CASTRATION for men who engage in SODOMY"
Eric

Aurora, IL

#75314 Jul 17, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Eric---you now state that only 12 states have anti sodomy laws. Therefore you are still wrong
HughBe---- And YOU are RIGHT when you say, "homosexuality is legal in EACH and EVERY state".
Notwithstanding your correctness above, my point that homosexuality is NOT legal in EACH and EVERY state REMAINS and is supported by the following quote----"A dozen states STILL have anti-sodomy laws on the books 10 years after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled they are unconstitutional.
Also, quote my words that say that homosexuality was legal in EVERY state.
PS: continue to dodge questions and explanations that are required of you.
You have no idea about US law. It makes no difference what laws are printed. The Supreme Court said homosexual practices are legal and that's it.

For example, in the recent Alabama case, Alabama still had an anti-sodomy law on the books. But the Alabama supreme court said it was unenforceable.

And, you keep raising red herrings and I'll keep not answering you.

You were wrong. Homosexuality is not illegal in most states.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#75315 Jul 17, 2014
Thinking aloud, if the majority of Americans disagree with the perverted path that the country is on then those so minded be they Muslims, Judaists etc must come together to steer the country in the directions that they want it to go. They should use their VOTING POWER. America at this time remains a democracy.
Eric

Aurora, IL

#75316 Jul 17, 2014
HughBe wrote:
Question, do you feel that Thomas Jefferson an American Founding Father,LAWYER, and the PRINCIPAL author of the Declaration of Independence and the third President of the United States UNDERSTOOD the Constitution?
Now, IF the American Constitution supported homosexuality, please explain why Jefferson in 1779 " wrote a law in VIRGINIA which contained a PUNISHMENT of CASTRATION for men who engage in SODOMY"
There wasn't a constitution in 1779. Constitution was adopted in 1789.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#75317 Jul 17, 2014
bi boys
Eric

Aurora, IL

#75318 Jul 17, 2014
Oh, and talking about Jefferson, Jefferson had slaves. Jefferson had slaves that he was fornicating with. There is an African American Family with Jefferson dna, the hendersons.

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