Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Eric

Arlington Heights, IL

#72662 Apr 30, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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No one would label a man who talks, walks, applies mascara and dresses like a woman normal.
Wow, into stereotypes much? What is normal is what occurs on a regular basis. There are all types of normal. Is it abnormal to want to marry the one that you love?
former res

Cheshire, CT

#72663 Apr 30, 2014
We can all close the shop early and go home:

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U.S. stocks rose on Wednesday, with the Dow Jones Industrial Average hitting its first record close of the year, as Wall Street welcomed a further reduction in the Federal Reserve's monthly bond purchases while looking past data showing the economy slowed more than expected in the first quarter.

"Who would imagine we would get a first-quarter GDP print so disappointing and yet we're closing the stock market at a high. That shows investors are absolutely looking past the first quarter, and looking to the Fed to continue with lower rates," said Chris Gaffney, senior market strategist at Everbank..

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101628340

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#72664 Apr 30, 2014
Eric wrote:
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What is normal is what occurs on a regular basis.

Wrong.

A habit (whether good or bad) is what occurs on a regular basis.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#72665 Apr 30, 2014
former res wrote:
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Bullshxt, with all due respect, as always!
I know he didn't ask me to share his fantasy. Regardless.
I'm tired of people using religion to justify ignorance and hatred.
(if he were invoking it to do good and help the poor, that would be different)
He has a right to believe it. And I have a right to question it. And even ridicule
it as he does to gays (an eye for an eye, correct? according to your testament)
At least I'm not treating him the way the Messianics are treated in Israel.
After all they're only practicing their religion, which tells them to "spread the word."
They are practicing free speech and being met with violence. Is this just?
what exactly were you reacting to? My post or Huggs fantasy?

I basically said
1) he had a right to believe in what he wants to believe
2) as long as he didnt discriminate against others by assuming others accepted those belief (in lieu of actual law of the land)

former res

Cheshire, CT

#72666 Apr 30, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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Wrong.
A habit (whether good or bad) is what occurs on a regular basis.
No, you're wrong.

It's "normal" for approx. 4% of the population to be gay.

Normal and expected. Predictable in most any random sample large enough to be valid.

In probability theory, the normal (or Gaussian) distribution is a very commonly occurring continuous probability distribution—a function that tells the probability that any real observation will fall between any two real limits or real numbers, as the curve approaches zero on either side. Normal distributions are extremely important in statistics and are often used in the natural and social sciences for real-valued random variables whose distributions are not known.[1][2]

Since: Jan 14

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#72667 Apr 30, 2014
Eric wrote:
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Is it abnormal to want to marry the one that you love?
Oh, you mean animal attraction.

Anyone is free to marry anyone provided, where straight marriages are concerned, incest/inbreeding is avoided.

I wonder why gays want to exchange rings and have babies through invitro methods when they're clearly incapable of making babies via man-woman sexual intercourse and besides why don't they stop pause to think of the psychological impact that rearing kids in a gay atmosphere would involve when clearly kids develop best in a heterosexual environment free of friction brought about by personality mismatch between husband and wife. Kids need both father and mother for healthy mind-emotion growth with each parent contributing his/her unique gender-based inputs.

Why don't gays simply accept their condition and stop imitating straight couples where marriage, procreation and parenting are concerned.

Anyway, I wish gays well so long as they don't make a nuisance of themselves by expecting everyone to bend over backwards to condone their abnormality.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#72668 Apr 30, 2014
HughBe---HughBe--- Let me REPEAT myself for the millionth time, I am fine with homosexuals as PEOPLE or my fellowman. However, I DISAGREE with their SEXUAL practice.

Do YOU agree with every behaviour of HOMOSEXUALS?

Frijoles---I have no problem with gay people having sex, or expressing emotion to each other. Its not my thing (i.e. I dont have gay inclinations), but to each their own and I wish them well..

HughBe--- When will you ever learn to answer simple questions. So once again, do YOU agree with every behaviour of HOMOSEXUALS?

Hint: pay attention to the word BEHAVIOUR. Do you understand what it means, Einstein?
Eric

Arlington Heights, IL

#72669 Apr 30, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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Wrong.
A habit (whether good or bad) is what occurs on a regular basis.
There are no habits in nature. Habits are developed.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#72670 Apr 30, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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No one would label a man who talks, walks, applies mascara and dresses like a woman normal.
.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-Spirit

Two-spirit people (also two spirit or twospirit) is a modern umbrella term used by some indigenous North Americans for gender-variant individuals within their communities. Non-Native anthropologists have historically used the term berdaches /b&#601;r&#712;dæ& #643;&#616;z/ for individuals who fulfill one of many mixed gender roles in First Nations and Native American tribes, but this term has more recently fallen out of favour.

Third and fourth gender roles historically embodied by two-spirit people include performing work and wearing clothing associated with both men and women. Some tribes consider there to be at least four gender identities: masculine men, feminine men, masculine women, and feminine women. The presence of male two-spirits "was a fundamental institution among most tribal peoples."[1] According to Will Roscoe, male and female two-spirits have been "documented in over 130 North America tribes, in every region of the continent."[2]
former res

Cheshire, CT

#72671 Apr 30, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
what exactly were you reacting to? My post or Huggs fantasy?
I basically said
1) he had a right to believe in what he wants to believe
2) as long as he didnt discriminate against others by assuming others accepted those belief (in lieu of actual law of the land)
You said "....let him be..." Why should I?

And:

1. Did I ever question his right to believe? I simply questioned why he believed what he did.

2. He spouts hate speech. Like many bible thumpers, he feels it's ok because god and Jesus are on his side or he's on their side, I'm not sure....

So now you have the reason for my little tantrum.

Call it cabin fever. And more rain tomorrow!

God sucks.

:))

Since: Jan 14

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#72672 Apr 30, 2014
Eric wrote:
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There are no habits in nature. Habits are developed.
You're clearly an illiterate with poor reasoning skills.

Since: Jan 14

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#72673 Apr 30, 2014
Hey,

Hugh's come online.

I knew he was lurking in the background.

I could smell his vibes.

ha ha
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#72674 Apr 30, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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then why are you opposed, and phobic of, marriage of gay people?
Son, I am not opposed to legal unions of gays and I am NOT phobic of it as well BUT I am certainly against the perversion of the word marriage.

Currently we call adult females WOMEN and adult males MEN. Do you think that we need to call adult FEMALES MEN in order for them to be equal to men?

Application---Marriage is a union between a man and a woman and gay-age the union between men and men and women and women and the latter does NOT have to be called marriage to have certain rights.

There is no need to PERVERT every term in order to sooth perverted people.

The word homo-PHOBIA is a PERVERSION of PHOBIA.

Suppose Eric or Cunti had a taste and a urge to unite with their dogs in sex, would you have a problem with that?

Would you HATE Eric and Cunti because you are dog-o-phobic?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#72675 Apr 30, 2014
HughBe----Your words about " masked hatred" underscores the fact that HOMOSEXUALITY is a MENTAL illness as ONLY a mentally ill person will construe HATRED because one has a different OPINION or DISAGREES with his words or actions

Do you have HATRED for those who enjoy having SEX with their DOGS? Do YOU agree with such practice?
If not explain why not.

FRijoles---Your religion has no bearing on me, so i could care less if you claim to be on the Lords side or that I am on the side of the Adversary.

HughBe--- Son, I was not speaking about my religion. Lesson, the Lord that I spoke of is the God of ALL FLESH and this is common knowledge to even an IDIOT who reads the Torah.

FRijoles---- No modern mental health worker will make the claim that homosexuality is a mental illness. The fact you refuse to come to terms with this reflects more YOUR state of mental health than anyone else.

HughBe--- If you are correct it seems that they have ALL been converted. Look at your thinking, I cannot DISAGREE with you on the matter of homosexuality without you attributing HATE. That is surely a sign of a persecution complex and paranoia.

Frijoles----I have no problem with bestiality PROVIDED someone is looking out for the welfare of the animal. Its not my thing (i.e I dont have the inclination), but what other people do is not for me to judge (provided the animal is treated humanely of course). Its an illogic stretch to compare consensual homosexual sex with nonconsensual bestiality.

HughBe--- it is NOT illogical to compare homosexuality to bestiality as BOTH are about SEX and satisfying SEXUAL desires.

The homosexual,you, are sexually attracted to other men whereas those into bestiality are attracted to animals it could be goats, cows, donkeys or dogs.

You spoke about looking after the welfare of the animals as a condition for your support of bestiality and so I want to ask you a few questions.

1. What business is that of yours if say Eric wants to SEX his property or dog?

2. Are you concerned about the MILLIONS of chickens and cows etc which are KILLED each year so that people like you may eat them?

3.Which is better, to KILL and eat animals or to SEX them and to treat them kindly?

4. What are your proposals to safeguard the animals that are being floced by some people?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#72676 Apr 30, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
Hey,
Hugh's come online.
I knew he was lurking in the background.
I could smell his vibes.
ha ha
It is all in your mind, I was literally working and away from here.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#72677 Apr 30, 2014
former res wrote:
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I have no idea where Apu, the little fruit, is.
I take it that you love to EAT fruit.

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#72678 Apr 30, 2014
Genes in an organism make particular proteins, whereas other genes control protein synthesis in cells. Biological features and personality traits are largely inherited but while the former can be traced to chemical units, the case of the latter is not as simple. There's no clear-cut molecular mechanism to account for personality traits nor can raw chemicals explain sentience nor can proteins tell us anything about the self-organizing capacities of living cells. We need a deeper understanding of sentient systems in a holistic context to make sense of the above inexplicable processes.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#72679 Apr 30, 2014
Former-straight----Definition of HOMOPHOBIA
: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals
This is you. You discriminate because you wouldn't allow them to marry. And you judge them to be abnormal and mentally ill.
You are a homophobe, Got that? Mon

HughBe--- Son, the suffix PHOBIA has been PERVERTED to suit homosexuals.

Take a look at ALL phobias and you shall see that they have to do with IRRATIONAL FEARS and nothing to do with the DISCRIMINATION,in my mind .

Lesson for you and all others like you FEARS and DISCRIMINATION are NOT the same things.

Former---Did the almighty specifically tell you this?

HughBe--- YES.

Former---Or did you read it in some book written by scribes thousands of years ago?

HughBe--- I read the words which were written by normal and HONORABLE men of the past.

Former---How do you know they didn't make it all up, like any other fairy tale?

HughBe--- I deem them to be HONOURABLE.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#72680 Apr 30, 2014
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>How did you ever pass grammar in elementary school? So much for the Jamaican educational system.
THAT mouse, a stinking piece of Sh.T , did it.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#72681 Apr 30, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE----Hi HUGH,
You said that your wife does not have sexy legs but has a "good looking" face, right?
Is her face as "good-looking" as Oprah Winfrey's face?
(smiles)

Hugh---- YES for the first question and NO for the second one.

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