Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Abolish The Fed

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#70589 Mar 31, 2014
MAAT wrote:
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Often true especially with the extreme amount of medication Americans take.
Curing the side-effects so to say.
But blaming all on the same ailment is equal desinterest.
And you are suggesting that paying for an unproven cure is the way to go!
That was the other part you kept vague about:
How does gluten when being tolerant to it get in the way of often oil soluble vitamins and other vitamis and minerals?
It causes inflammation in the small intestine which results in malabsorption, if you don't have a gluten intolerance then good for you, but I did and many other people do too but they might not know it.I don't have celiac disease and there is no real test for gluten intolerance but many people tell me that when they quit gluten it usually takes about two weeks and they feel so much better, mood, appetite, sleep, all improve.

MD's supply diabetics with insulin, when their kidneys malfunction their answer is to cut it out and get a replacement.
Everything is related, usually 1 disease leads to another which leads to another and doctors keep treating symptoms by throwing drugs at it which causes more disease and more symptoms.
When you say something is "unproven" you are referring to large expensive studies, I don't need that when I see with my own eyes case after case of heart disease, diabetes, GERD, liver problems, degenerative disc desease, cancer all being reversed through nutrition.
Again there is no money in curing disease especially when doctors are on the payroll of pharmaceutical companies.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#70590 Mar 31, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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"ayn od milvado" in the tradition of Hasidic Judaism.

Just language.
No, the concepts are different.

"Ayn od milvado" means "there's no one else besides HaShem".

It's one thing to say "ayn od milvado" (there's no one else besides HaShem) and it's a totally different thing to say "I am HaShem".

Ayn od milvado ((there's no one else besides HaShem) is a dualistic statement which puts HaShem on the loftiest pedestal and worships him as G-d Almighty.

To say "I am HaShem" is a nondual experience in consciousness which is not part of Judaism and would be considered a blasphemy.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#70591 Mar 31, 2014
Abolish the Fed = Voluntarist?

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#70592 Mar 31, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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I fail to see much difference between "nothingness" in the tradition of Zen,
"Nothingness"?

Zen might teach "shunyavad" or "nothingness" - a later accretion to Buddhism.

The Buddha did not mention shunyavad.

Buddha's teachings ended in the Nirvana-state via trance.

Nirvana is not the shunya or the nothing of Zen.

Nirvana is the calm subliminal state of consciousness that stands just behind the ripples of the frontal consciousness.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#70593 Mar 31, 2014
Abolish The Fed wrote:
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"do you love your parents".
The brainless idiot COR said that he does love his parents.

I wonder what the rat means by love.

Love and other emotions cannot be explained scientifically but as expected the rat, COR, avoided answering this question too and brushed it off with typical low grade atheistic banter.

Emotions are not just a rush of chemicals.

There's a movement in consciousness that initiates the rush of certain chemicals which the idiot mistakes for love.

So, an emotion traces its origin in a movement of consciousness and with consciousness being an integral part of energy thus this movement of consciousness (say love, lust or hatred) stimulates the concomitant hormones that as a result get released in the blood stream.

Thus, an emotion has a subtle side which is the underlying state of consciousness and an outer measurable aspect which is manifested by a rush of chemicals.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#70594 Mar 31, 2014
An emotion is an experience in consciousness that has far reaching consequences on our thoughts, health, relationships and actions.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#70595 Mar 31, 2014
DEITY, MICROBES & ATHEISM

To get evidence of a deity, as demanded by the atheists, one has to rise high in consciousness (beyond all external forms) to investigate whether the so-called deity exists as a movement of consciousness or is just a figment of imagination.

One can't be dismissive of a deity (or of deities) from a lower state of consciousness which would be as foolish as say an uneducated man denying the existence of bacteria since he cannot see bacteria with the naked eyes.

Bacteria, as known, can be seen only through a microscope.

So, the atheists have got this point on the existence of deity/deities wrong, too.

LOL.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#70596 Mar 31, 2014
So, just as bacteria cannot be seen with the naked eyes, similarly, one should not inquire about the existence of a deity while living in the ordinary state of consciousness.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#70597 Mar 31, 2014
The thumb rule is that only like can perceive/understand like.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#70598 Mar 31, 2014
In Vedanta and Tibetan Buddhism, the state of nothingness or the shunya state of existence is a state of consciousness that's devoid of all thoughts. Yes, the thoughtless state is an "on-the-way" state to the supreme goal which is complete union in consciousness-force with the higher self..

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#70599 Mar 31, 2014
While we lay great emphasis on telescopic and microscopic vision, we should lay greater stress on psychic vision wherever it can be developed.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#70600 Mar 31, 2014
While telescopic vision and microscopic vision can be developed by using the telescope and the microscope respectively, the instrument that needs to be employed for psychic vision is the mind itself in its heightened functional mode.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#70601 Mar 31, 2014
When we use a telescope or a microscope, our state of consciousness is the same ordinary consciousness in its exteriorized functional mode and so telescopic and microscopic visions do not involve any shift in consciousness, whereas when we enter the domain of psychic vision a complete shift in consciousness from the ordinary to the heightened functional mode in consciousness has to take place if the psychic mode of perception has to replace the ordinary way of perception. Just a handful of persons can manifest the psychic vision.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#70602 Mar 31, 2014
Particle physicist and systems thinker Fritjof Capra has some of this capacity for psychic vision.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#70603 Mar 31, 2014
OCCULT CHEMISTRY & PSI

Much before particle physics could inferentially deduct the nature of subatomic particles, 2 theosophists, Annie Besant and Bishop Olcott, had conducted an investigation into the core of matter via the trance state and in that trance state they saw the subatomic world firsthand and while in waking trance they began dictating to a stenographer present at the place the direct perception of the subatomic world.

Their psychic investigation into the nature of matter at the subatomic level is contained in detail in a book called Occult Chemistry published by the Theosophical Society of India.

Later, this occult book formed the basis of a doctoral thesis on the link between the occult vision and the inferential findings of particles by a student named Philips or something like that.

The book, Occult Chemistry and a copy of the PhD thesis on the same was given to a friend's dad by Dr M M Srinivasan, ex-head of the Neutron Physics Division, BARC, Mumbai. I have seen both.

It was a humbling as well as an awe-inspiring experience for me.

yehoshooah adam

“Here again in The Torah”

Since: Nov 13

Denver Colorado 80218

#70604 Mar 31, 2014
you all seem pretty much convinced and determined, to do the devils world for him. with all of your denial of being here in Only The Torah again from HaShem G-D.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#70605 Apr 1, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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No, the concepts are different.
"Ayn od milvado" means "there's no one else besides HaShem".
It's one thing to say "ayn od milvado" (there's no one else besides HaShem) and it's a totally different thing to say "I am HaShem".
Ayn od milvado ((there's no one else besides HaShem) is a dualistic statement which puts HaShem on the loftiest pedestal and worships him as G-d Almighty.
To say "I am HaShem" is a nondual experience in consciousness which is not part of Judaism and would be considered a blasphemy.
Thats not how it is interpreted in my tradition.

Sorry, you are wrong again.

:)

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#70606 Apr 1, 2014
Abolish The Fed wrote:
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You can call me whatever you want, atheists are like scorn women.
I.
No evidence to back up that claim.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#70607 Apr 1, 2014
former res wrote:
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OTOH if you're interviewing a potential nanny/babysitter for your baby, and she says "Hey look at the pink elephant over there!" You might want to put her at the bottom of the list.
How about the co-worker who comes in everyday and tells your about all the cool stuff god said to him last night? Any better? Could he babysit for you?
If it affects their behavior, yes. If it doesnt, no.

Have no problem with people who keep their beliefs to themselves.

The 2 examples above do not fall into that category.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#70608 Apr 1, 2014
former res wrote:
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I have niece who converted to Judaism (her new husband's faith) and they ended up getting divorced. Oh well, guess no good deed goes unpunished.!
I would NEVER encourage someone to "convert" to Judaism as a "good deed". Nor would any Rabbi, I would hope. "Conversion" is a form of tribal initiation, its not for brownie points. Historically, Jews discourage conversion for that reason. Its not (just) entry into a faith, its entry into a people.
former res wrote:
<quoted text>Guess I understand just my nature to wonder if there might not be another faith/religion/culture that may be MORE awe-inspiring or fit me better! The sky's the limit and all that..
Like a bigger ocean, bluer sky, taller grass. I know you can relate
Never been much of a joiner, except to my wife of 26 years (in May)!
My view (and my experience) is that what one may feel lacking is a psychological lack, not a religious lack. Once you find what you are looking for, you can then probably find it in your own culture/religion, in many (not all) cases. Certainly (if you are from) in Judaism, which has a huge breadth and depth of perspectives and ideological movements.

I learned a lot about other religions when I was younger. And I realized that what I liked about the other religions were also found in my own, if I cared to look deeper, and grapple with the Hebrew.

The mistake a lot of people have is thinking their knowledge of their born religion, a la Sunday School, is IT. Its not. Its the perspective of a bored kid or bored teen, being carried along as baggage as an adult. When you approach the subject with mature intellectual curiosity, there (potentially) is a lot more to be learned about what the religion is.

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