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“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#69648 Mar 17, 2014
Cult of Reason wrote:
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Same argument, if it's publicly funded. While Jews were the biggest victims of the holocaust, others died as well so equal opportunity to show any and all religious symbols, or none at all. How would you feel if your were non-Jewish and religious and your family died in a concentration camp, but they refused to allow you to memorialize them with a symbol of your religion?
That all said, and not knowing all the funding details, the difference between the holocaust museums and the 911 museum is that (I would think) that the holocaust museums (LA and DC) are on private property/off site, while the 911 museum is on public property/on site.

Since: Nov 13

Denver, CO

#69649 Mar 17, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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Hello Rabbee.
You're not posting as usual these days.
I hope you're well.
Take care of your health and be safe.
Bye.
rabbee: there is no one here in TheTorah, to talk to today. why should i talk, to a bunch of nobodies here? and talking critters, do not seem to be intelligent enough to converse with.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#69650 Mar 17, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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I have only been to the holocaust museums in LA and in Israel, but both of them, if I recollect, had exhibits about non Jews as well. Its to the world's and the Jewish people's benefit for everyone to understand the holocaust in its entirety.
In fairness to CoR, he was responding to a my hypothetical.

I'm guessing the other victims are also represented in DC. I just didn't happen to remember as the visit was several years I ago.

I remember the my response to the overall impact of the place. And all the shoes, so many shoes.

Then we went to see the Vietnam Memorial. That is great work of art IMO. Very well done. The number one attraction in DC supposedly.

Since: Nov 13

Denver, CO

#69651 Mar 17, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
RABBEE:
If reincarnation exists as millions believe, and for the sake of our conversation assuming that it's true, could you answer 5 simple questions?
1) What would you like to rectify in your life....any mistake that you regret, a habit that you detest, a wrong decision, etc?
2) Do you fear death at your advanced age?
3) Do you think there's life after death? In what state? Why?
4) What would you like to be reincarnated as? Why?
5) What advice will you give us about life in general?
Thank you.
*feel free to ignore this post, if you wish to.
rabbee: i have made no mistakes, i have done everything G-D came and commanded of me. my commanded actions shall always be the same, for this world refusing to be here in The Story G-D is again commanding to happen. my destiny shall never change, to this world making all the same delusional mistakes and expecting different results. because you all believe in your other, thou shalt all lie other g-ds.

i have no fear of death, here in The Torah where i have physically died more than once each Torot time G-D has given this same accounting. and how many times i must suffer mortal demise each time, is dependent upon the lies in corruption of this preferred delusional world. you would all rather go through wwi and wwii over and over, rather than be in GanEden where this never happens.

and i know there is life after death but maybe not always for all of you, as i return to my casper form and back to the physical flesh form. been there done that, many times. and this is you, this worlds and their grandmother's third physical hereafter in TheTorah. and you have all never achieved any better than this. you have all always forgone, GanEden for this hell. G-D is not about to give any different physical accounting here, to this world making all their mental magic delusional mistakes as before.

and i do not get a choice, as to whom i am always resurrected as adam here in TheTorot. G-D does not lie, as i must always be returned as Adam to adam. but if you wish to make a G-Dless talking ass, monkey, lizard, or other talking critter out of yourself, here in TheTorah. then that is your own doing.

and i have already given to you all, G-D'S best advice given to me. to be here in The Story they are again giving called The Torah. if you ever want another chance to make it to GanEden, then believe in G-D Worship G-D here and now in TheTorah today and forever physically here in IT. as my response to this world does not change, as long as all of you and your grandmother are all mentally ill as if not here in The Story from G-D again.

and you can all forget going to HEAVEN in Heavens, since you cannot make it to Heaven on earth here in TheTorah. you either get recycled for another time, or your casper gets obliterated. there is a cost and price to disbelief of G-D, to the third and forth visitations of The Whole Torah. at the best case you suffer death, to come back to try succeed or fail again again. at the worst case, sent into oblivion from which there is no return to any existence physical or casper.

but for the interim most are sent to the sleeping casper place grave awaiting their resurrection. but you shall never be resurrected, as anyone or thing else. to die in a G-Dless talking critter state, shall only result in being returned as a G-Dless talking critter. Noach is always returned as Noach, Avraham is always returned as Avraham, Moshe is always returned as Moshe, Adam is always returned as adam and whoever is the appointed grandmother of this world as chaooah.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69652 Mar 17, 2014
Greetings flocers, did you miss me?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#69653 Mar 17, 2014
former res wrote:
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In fairness to CoR, he was responding to a my hypothetical.
I'm guessing the other victims are also represented in DC. I just didn't happen to remember as the visit was several years I ago.
I remember the my response to the overall impact of the place. And all the shoes, so many shoes.
Then we went to see the Vietnam Memorial. That is great work of art IMO. Very well done. The number one attraction in DC supposedly.
For emotional punch, the Vietnam memorial is the best. For visual interest, I prefer the Korean War memorial.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69654 Mar 17, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE--Jeebus,Where're you?

HughBe--- I am here, my child.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#69655 Mar 17, 2014
HughBe wrote:
Greetings flocers, did you miss me?
actually, I didnt, to be bluntly honest
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69656 Mar 17, 2014
HughBe---Stop Flocing with Joel. I mean that.

former res--When he stops doing the same.
An eye for an eye and all that.
But it's cute that you're so protective of your special fella.
Cute couple. If clueless.

HughBe--- My dear always a sweetie, let me explain somethings to you. I do not believe in cruelty and that is what I saw in Frijoles' words. Now some time ago there was a poster who repeatedly called Frijoles FREE HOLE and I stood up for Frijoles and rebuked the poster.

Meditate upon these things.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69657 Mar 17, 2014
HughBe---Greetings flocers, did you miss me?

Frijoles---actually, I didnt, to be bluntly honest

HughBe--- 1. If I am to believe you then it seems to me that you have acquired something NEW in my absence and here I speak of HONESTY.

2. If I am to believe you then it also means that your LACK of good taste is still with you.

3. Much love, Mon.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69658 Mar 17, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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So, Professor of Science/CEO, what's your idea of reality?
Does it pertain to creation ex nihilo by an extra-cosmic G-d made up of some mystical substance, right?
Expected!
Beautifully done.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69659 Mar 17, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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I am sure you have already convinced yourself of whatever answer you are preaching
so I am not going to bother
EXPLAIN YOUR Jewish Bible and tell me if the members of the Tribe of Dan were Israelites based on your man-made doctrine.

Hint: Dan was involved in IDOLATRY for over 350 YEARS. Let me repeat it over 350 YEARS. Reminder and aid, your man-made doctrine says IDOLATRY makes Jews non-Jew.

" And the children of Dan set up for themselves the graven image. And Jonathan the son of Gershom, the son of Menasseh,(both) he and his sons were priests to the tribe of the Danites until the day of the exile of the land.
And they accepted for themselves the graven image of Micah which he had made, throughout the period that the house of God was in Shiloh." The Complete JEWISH Bible
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69660 Mar 17, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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Stand in line after Joel to receive your lithium prescription
HughBe----God Almighty has mocked your false doctrines and has dismissed them as being a complete waste of time and unacceptable, to Him. Your worship is in VAIN.

Frijoles----Go enjoy life. You are wasting time.
Stand in line after Joel to receive your lithium prescription

HughBe--- Here is a lesson for you and your rabbis. Neither you nor them can make RULES to worship God. In fact no one can. If the rules of the rabbis are BINDING on God and the sheep of the rabbis then the rabbis have the POWER to FORGIVE sins.

Understand, the worship of God MUST be done based on His commandments and ALL other rules are a WASTE of time and makes any worship based on man-made RULES vain or USELESS.

Finally, the very ACT of making RULES is a TRANSGRESSION and BREAKS the laws of God.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69661 Mar 17, 2014
Rick Moss wrote:
How to tell if you're crazy. Tip 357
If you feel bad and you're convinced it's because of vampires, voodoo, electromagnetic subspace fields, astral projection, contrails or the vast right-wing conspiracy. Then you're crazy.
If you feel bad because you have a cold. Not crazy.
My guess is that Kabala is a superior occult practice to voodoo and so the practitioners of the former are sane, in your mind.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69662 Mar 17, 2014
Frijoles---- Membership within each one is patrilineal (though Jewishness itself is matrilineal)..

HughBe--- Support matrilineal rule using scripture. Put it this way, use your Tanach and show me that ancestral DESCENT or GENEALOGY was TRACED through the maternal line or MOTHER. That is what it means.

3129
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69663 Mar 17, 2014
As I go, here are some secrets.

1.Masters make rules and servants obey them.
2. Servants do NOT make RULES.
3. Servants cannot bind their master by any rule that they make. Simplifying, no servant can make any rule that his master has an obligation to honour.

4. Think on these things.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#69664 Mar 17, 2014
HughBe wrote:
HughBe---Stop Flocing with Joel. I mean that.
former res--When he stops doing the same.
An eye for an eye and all that.
But it's cute that you're so protective of your special fella.
Cute couple. If clueless.
HughBe--- My dear always a sweetie, let me explain somethings to you. I do not believe in cruelty and that is what I saw in Frijoles' words. Now some time ago there was a poster who repeatedly called Frijoles FREE HOLE and I stood up for Frijoles and rebuked the poster.
Meditate upon these things.
thank you my shiny friend

I think you would do the same for me if push came to shove

you might be a good person under all that homophobia - just not to gays or Jews
former res

Cheshire, CT

#69666 Mar 17, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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For emotional punch, the Vietnam memorial is the best. For visual interest, I prefer the Korean War memorial.
And don't forget Archie Bunkers chair, Fonzie's jacket...

And the Capital Steps show....

And best of all "The Newseum" - you automatically get a two-day pass and I think it's #1 on Trip Advisor. Best thing I've seen in a long time. Very interesting. About a day and a 1/2 will do it. It might be right behind seeing the Rosetta Stone at the British Museum :))
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#69667 Mar 17, 2014
HUGH: Beautifully done.

JOEL: So, in your hallowed view, creation from nothing is a fact? Keep hallucinating.

BTW, can you give me one example of creation from nothing in nature/life?

As for mystical substance, some occultists and even a renowned physicist like Max Planck say/said that consciousness is the mystical substance that underlies and interpenetrates energy/matter which is why they argue universe is fine tuned and which is why sentience arose in the universe.

After a lot of thought backed by yogic experience and after perusing plenty of scientific literature on the subject I am these days more likely to think that consciousness gradually develops out of material activity but I have serious doubts....

No scientist can pinpoint the exact mechanism of how consciousness develops in say the human brain nor can consciousness be replicated in a material system in the lab.

What if a well preserved, fully formed human brain of a dead person is subjected to all the right EM frequencies (typical to actual brain activity) transferred into it via a set of electrodes will the brain in such an experiment manifest sentience? I don't think so.

By using external electrical impulses in the gamma range (which is the normal frequency at which a human brain works when the person is alive) can a corpse be revived? I don't think so.

Using electrical impulses can a person in a comatose state be revived? I don't think so.

So, well, all talk of consciousness being a product of brain activity collapses in these circumstances as detailed above.

That consciousness is affected by psychoactive drudge or by surgery to various parts of the brain is only to be expected since brain in the mystical view is simply an instrument to transmit consciousness. This position is also held by a few prominent scientists.

So, the fundamental question - what is consciousness remains unanswered.
aegege

Klaksvík, Faroe Islands

#69668 Mar 17, 2014
Jesus was just a jew.
Shouldn't be the least of the worries of the Europeans.

Europeans should be more occupied by getting rid of Christianity in Europe.
Christianity is a poison, a mind virus.

Priest have from early age alwasys been the biggest enemies of freedom, they ave tortured scientists and our pagan rooted europeans.

Christianity is what unfortunatly has evolved to Socialism and the state today.

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