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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#65879 Jan 14, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
I'll post, later. I need to eat dinner. At home. Bye.
Tell me what yo ATE, when you return. Enjoy the eating.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#65880 Jan 14, 2014
HughBe wrote:
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Tell me what yo ATE, when you return. Enjoy the eating.
I didn't EAT that.

Well, I ate a steamed, lightly seasoned dish of snap beans mixed with fresh green peas with a bowl of al dente brown rice topped with clarified cow's cream butter.

Rounded off the meal with a sinful eggless chocoholic pastry ordered earlier from Theobroma.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#65881 Jan 14, 2014
HughBe wrote:
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HughBe--- I take it that you also judge my departures helpful even when you are not on the forum. That is interesting. By the way stop calling straight homosexual and homosexual straight.
Former---Wrong on both counts.
HughBe--- I am seeing on display wisdom beyond your chronological years on the matter of judging. With respect to the matter of calling straight homosexual, please explain to me how I am wrong when you call me a homosexual when I have NEVER had sex with a man and I am NOT attracted to men sexually. I like pleasing personalities and so it matters not that you are a man or a woman boy or a girl if you qualify I will be attracted to you.
Get it?
This has been explained to you many, many times.

Being homosexual/gay is not about what one does or does not do.

It's about who you are.

Straight people may have gay sex but this does not make them gay.
(For the record, I have never had gay sex. I would say so if I had.)

That you have yet to act on who you are (and I'm taking your word for this), is just that.
(We won't go into the possible reasons for your reticence - we have discussed this in the past. Religion likely plays a role.)

You wouldn't be the first person to make this realization and act on it later in life.

Be true to yourself.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#65882 Jan 14, 2014
HUGH,

I didn't EAT that.

Well, I ate a steamed, lightly seasoned dish of snap beans mixed with fresh green peas and a bowl of al dente brown rice topped with clarified cow's cream butter.

Rounded off the meal with a sinful eggless chocoholic pastry ordered earlier from Theobroma.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#65883 Jan 14, 2014
HughBe wrote:
JOEL COOL DUDE---I am sympathetic to Rabbee because he's mentally deranged.

Hugh--- I would have thought that you would have been sympathetic because his mental state is not his fault meaning he is deranged because the UNIFIED FIELD is also DERANGED. After all, the universe which includes Adam is a manifestation of the deranged FIELD.
All possibilities - good, bad, neutral and transcendental - inhere in the unified field of consciousness, energy and matter.

Nothing can enter the field from outside since the field itself is everything.

In the lower triple reaches, beginning from mind and going to emotion and finally to matter, the possibility of dualism - of good and bad - gets manifested and being so far down the cosmic hierarchy they enjoy a greater degree of freedom and so clash with each other for supremacy.

This explains the struggle between the forces of light and the forces of darkness on the mental, emotional and physical planes.

The aim is to transform both good and bad into the transcendental by bringing into the lower triple planes of mind, emotions and matter a higher force that swamps the dualism with its unifying effect which as a result ends the individualism of the dualism of good and bad and unifies them so that none can manifest its individualistic traits. The struggle and clash ends.

Thus, in this manner, the transcendental manifests in the lower planes.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#65884 Jan 14, 2014
JOEL wrote:
MODERATOR:
My posts are not getting posted.
Please post my replies/messages.
Why're certain malicious-minded posters who're at the receiving end so opposed to me that they seek the moderator's help to get me banned?
Shame.
Why are you blaming others when
1) its your content that is getting you deleted (Man up!); and
2) likely it is the moderator who is just doing their job (shocking at the idea I guess)

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#65885 Jan 14, 2014
former res wrote:
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(For the record, I have never had gay sex. I would say so if I had.)
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not that there is anything wrong with that....

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#65886 Jan 14, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
Hugh,
I hope all is well at your end.
Most of my posts are getting deleted because some malicious-minded posters have complained against me and a couple of moderators on the Messianic and the Allah threads are closely monitoring my posts and getting them deleted. Many of my key posts have been deleted.
BTW, I am, since the past few days, ever since I am facing problems in posting, getting a buzz from a detective agency that 2 persons are spying on me and are following my movements all over the net.
PS: I have read your replies and have nothing to say since it's evident that you've failed to understand the points that I raised.
Best Regards,
Joel
Why do you have to hire a detective when you have yogic vision?

Speaking of yogic vision, what ever happened to that missing 40k?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#65887 Jan 14, 2014
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
This means nothing.
Didn't you know it snowed here recently?!
:))
Snow in January? Thats as crazy as 49 degrees in January!

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#65888 Jan 14, 2014
HughBe wrote:
Joel---There's no "divine" intervention, never was any and never will be since everything in the universe is guided by cause-effect laws.

Hugh--- Let me accept your position. Now please explain the CAUSE meaning what caused the cause? Did the effect cause the cause?
Don't you know the meaning of causation or of causality?

Effect is the cause in partial or in complete manifestation.

An isolated system includes everything to bring into manifestation, from its own materials and forces, the effect

The impulse towards manifestation or towards action in the manifestation triggers off the causal mechanism.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#65889 Jan 14, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>

Why do you have to hire a detective when you have yogic vision?
I'm really pissed off with you guys since the minute I mention the word "yogic" many of you go viral about yogic vision et al.

The yoga in me is mostly of the descending kind and so the supramental power descends into me at times with great force with its concomitant epiphanies of golden light, intense heat, subtle sound and an opening up of the nervous system in a painful way.

It's only during the descent that I get the yogic visions of the supramental or of the overmental and never of the physical plane.
.

To get a vision of the going ons on the plane of matter, the Force has to descend into the region below the navel where the force center of matter is stationed in the field corresponding to that region which it has not till now in me and so I don't get visions in trance or in the waking state of the plane of matter.

Earlier, the Force had bypassed the navel and suffused the genital area desiccating or drying up the semen, drawing the seminal energy up the spine and so on and this made me rise above the sex urge.

These days the Force is centered in the head like a huge rock and has descended to the neck region which as a result has opened up the higher mind faculty in me - If I need to know the answer to a question that's evading my intellectual mind then the activated higher mind gives me the answer at times in a second - the whole answer descends into the mind's eye like a block and I can see the info with its accompanying logic and simply have to speak it or type it.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#65890 Jan 14, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>

Speaking of yogic vision, what ever happened to that missing 40k?
Yes, I left behind the shoulder bag containing the equivalent of $ 40 k in the lounge of a bank that I frequent.

While sitting there after depositing a cheque, I got thinking about this Topix problem of my posts getting deleted and in that daze I slipped off the strap of the bag and kept it on the table beside me and while thinking about this issue concerning Topix I got up after say 5 minutes and walked out the door. When I reached the parked car that was a little away, I realized my mistake an rushed back. By then someone had picked it up and disappeared. The police is investigating the matter and are studying the CCTV recordings...knowing the Mumbai police they'll take weeks since they're too hard pressed with major duties. The lounge was quite crowded on that day. Even if they spot the person picking up the bag, I don't know if they'll be able to identify him or pick him up.

It's a minor amount that got robbed. I don't care.

Anyway, you stay safe and healthy and happy and successful.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#65891 Jan 14, 2014
HughBe wrote:
Joel---The unified field is imply the origin or the basis of the manifested universe.

Hugh--- When you say origin, do you mean it had a beginning? Explain the meaning of origin.
Use the word basis, instead of origin.

There's nothing like a beginning or an end with the unified field since it's imperishable.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#65892 Jan 14, 2014
HughBe wrote:
Joel---The unified field is evolutionary in the sense that each higher frequency of vibration that's involved in its lowest manifestation which is matter emerges successively under created pulls and pressures which in turn ushers in different epochs on the terrestrial plane and which accounts for the different phases of evolution that we have evidence of.

Hugh---Let me take my time to understand these deep words. Done so. Now explain CREATED PULLS.

.
Created pulls arise in a system due to the play of the forces each seeking further manifestation and supremacy.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#65893 Jan 14, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm really pissed off with you guys since the minute I mention the word "yogic" many of you go viral about yogic vision et al.
The yoga in me is mostly of the descending kind and so the supramental power descends into me at times with great force with its concomitant epiphanies of golden light, intense heat, subtle sound and an opening up of the nervous system in a painful way.
It's only during the descent that I get the yogic visions of the supramental or of the overmental and never of the physical plane.
.
To get a vision of the going ons on the plane of matter, the Force has to descend into the region below the navel where the force center of matter is stationed in the field corresponding to that region which it has not till now in me and so I don't get visions in trance or in the waking state of the plane of matter.
Earlier, the Force had bypassed the navel and suffused the genital area desiccating or drying up the semen, drawing the seminal energy up the spine and so on and this made me rise above the sex urge.
These days the Force is centered in the head like a huge rock and has descended to the neck region which as a result has opened up the higher mind faculty in me - If I need to know the answer to a question that's evading my intellectual mind then the activated higher mind gives me the answer at times in a second - the whole answer descends into the mind's eye like a block and I can see the info with its accompanying logic and simply have to speak it or type it.
but yet you ramble on and on with your ideas, and discount others, all with the rationale that everything from your side was attained during meditation

and now you are back pedaling>?
former res

Cheshire, CT

#65894 Jan 14, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
not that there is anything wrong with that....
I know I wouldn't be judged here!

This is what I've been trying to tell the Jamaican.

Since: Nov 13

Denver, CO

#65895 Jan 14, 2014
JOEL wrote:
RABBEE'S REPLIES ON : 4-methylcyclohexanemethanol
JOEL: If hexane does not dissolve in water, why does 4-methylcyclohexane methanol dissolve appreciably in water?
RABBEE'S REPLY ON THE ALLAH THREAD:
because it is methanol alcohol base. and the cyclohexane is i believe a ketone or peptide.
JOEL TO RABBEE:
1) Partially correct where the methanol is concerned - what is the mechanism at work? Why?
2) Is cyclohexane a ketone? No.
Ketones have the skeletal formula R - O- R' and so it's a cycloalkane.
3) Is cyclohexane a peptide? No.
Peptides have an amide linkage.
You know nothing and you're supposedly worked as a scientist, claimed to have an IQ of 200 and said that you have several grad degrees from leading US universities.
Shame.
rabbee: you went though all that bs, to avoid saying methanol's have an affinity for water. i do not have the literature or msds's, any more to every known chemical in the world - nor do i care to. obviously you chose, to cut an paste. i am certain, you did not know this. in order to pretend like, your some kind of genius, that your not. i am not that interested, in any of this or anymore. i got it right that it is soluable, because of the methanol. so i still have some basic knowledge of chemistry. that i do not have to, cut and paste for.

and there is more to iq, than just remembering stupid crap. especially when it was stupid crap, i never dealt with. a i have my doubts, you could pass a blood test without cut and paste.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#65897 Jan 14, 2014
FRIJOLES: but yet you ramble on and on with your ideas, and discount others, all with the rationale that everything from your side was attained during meditation and now you are back pedaling>?

JOEL: Yes, all my subtle experiences, visions and insights into mind-matter are on account of the descent of the force into my being.

During these yogic experiences, the body glows with a golden light (the supramental force is golden), heat radiates from the body, sounds are heard within and the inner vision opens up, the nerves widen to receive the descending power....

At times, my psychic that stands behind the mental, vital and physical dimensions in the heart center awakens under the pressure of the descent, joins with the descending force and ascends up the hierarchy.

Every form of meditation falls under either of these two categories - ascent of the awakened psychic into the higher planes and/or descent of the Force of a particular higher plane into the lower planes and into the body.

So, if other practices fall under either or under both of these categories of ascent and descent then only is the meditation valid.

Otherwise, it's some feel good factor or sorcery involving chants, rituals, blood sacrifices and the like.

And, one more thing, to enter into the ascent or to experience the descent, the mantra of a particular plane should be available in its activated form. Then only is the yoga possible.

Finally, the yoga should manifest many or all of the visible signs such as trance of the stasis or of the waking kind, light radiating from the body, sounds being heard, fragrances emitted from the body, opening up of the inner vision, manifestation of deep knowledge, paranormal powers, experience of the cosmic stillness/cosmic wideness/cosmic peace/experience of the one in the many and the many in the one, awakening of the psychic, activation of any or all of the chakras (force centers) in the body or above the head under the pressure of the ascending kundalini or under the pressure of the descending higher force and so on.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#65898 Jan 14, 2014
RABBEE:

How does a hydrogen bond form between the OH and water?

Is Van der Waal's force involved in hydrogen bonding - Keesom forces, Debye forces, London forces?

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#65899 Jan 14, 2014
Hugh,

You said that the God that you worship is all good.

So, what is the source of evil?

Is there anything beyond good and evil?

How did this God of yours create energy, matter and consciousness from nothing so as to create the cosmos?

How will this energy, natter and consciousness be dissolved back into nothing at the end?

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