Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

There are 72037 comments on the Newsday story from Jun 21, 2008, titled Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel. In it, Newsday reports that:

Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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JOEL THUMBS UP

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#63137 Nov 21, 2013
Hugh,

Lay off cults and religions.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#63138 Nov 21, 2013
If I turn to Jesus or to any of the prophets, I will get stuck in a morass since they have nothing profound or original to offer.

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#63139 Nov 21, 2013
I can't imagine becoming a slave of scripture that preaches retarded and perverted stuff.

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#63140 Nov 21, 2013
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No son, get the PRINCIPLE. Do you want to become a Christian?
You seem to forget, I already was a Chrisitian before realizing it was all smoke and mirrors, based on belief without evidence and a bunch of logical fallacies.

Do you think you can convert me back? If so, here's my challenge to you. If you can explain the geneology issue to me in a way that actually makes sense, then, as a reward, I will give you the opportunity to further proselytize to me. I'll even share an email address with you that will allow you to reach out to me directly. But you must earn that privilege first by addressing the geneology issue in a satisfactory manner. Are you up to the challenge?

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#63141 Nov 21, 2013
I know much more than the scriptures and prophets and their God. Inferior entities.
Eric

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#63142 Nov 21, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
I can't imagine becoming a slave of scripture that preaches retarded and perverted stuff.
No, you'd rather be an actual slave to a master who is trying to drive you crazy.

But, seriously Joel. Are you sure that the guy was actually trying to fleece you of your inheritance? We see the Christians trying to do that all the time. Maybe your yogi bear was trying to do the same.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#63143 Nov 21, 2013
Eric wrote:
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No, you'd rather be an actual slave to a master who is trying to drive you crazy.
But I have left him after discovering what a devil he is, while you still cling to the devil of your cult.

So, when are you going to dump an evil cult like Judaism?

LOL

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#63144 Nov 21, 2013
Eric wrote:
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Are you sure that the guy was actually trying to fleece you of your inheritance?
He has enough of his own - running into millions of dollars - since he hails from a seriously wealthy family.

In fact, he'd go out of his way to make me comfortable by ordering my favorite things which are expensive stuff when compared to the ordinary stuff that common people use.

Not once was money mentioned.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#63145 Nov 21, 2013
Eric wrote:
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We see the Christians trying to do that all the time.
I thought the Christian missionaries con the poor by offering them monetary incentives so that they convert to Christianity.
Eric

Batavia, IL

#63146 Nov 21, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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He has enough of his own - running into millions of dollars - since he hails from a seriously wealthy family.
In fact, he'd go out of his way to make me comfortable by ordering my favorite things which are expensive stuff when compared to the ordinary stuff that common people use.
Not once was money mentioned.
Oh my. Do you think he was "grooming" you?
Eric

Batavia, IL

#63147 Nov 21, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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I thought the Christian missionaries con the poor by offering them monetary incentives so that they convert to Christianity.
I guess you've never seen Christian televangelists.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#63149 Nov 21, 2013
Eric wrote:
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Oh my. Do you think he was "grooming" you?
My mystical experiences (that're spontaneously continuing till this day) are a gift from Sri Aurobindo who has thrice appeared to me in waking trances.

Whereas that rogue had blocked certain faculties of my mind and put a strong adverse occult force on me to draw out all those mystical energies that were coming into me (courtesy Sri Aurobindo) and was feeding off them like a vampire and this created great suffering in my life that killed my dad, mom and sister and almost ruined me...

I don't wish to talk about it.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#63150 Nov 21, 2013
Eric wrote:
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I guess you've never seen Christian televangelists.
I've heard they're multimillionaires fooling the brainwashed flock into donating money. I wouldn't know much about them.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#63151 Nov 21, 2013
Hugh is high on biblical ganja! LOL.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#63153 Nov 21, 2013
Cold fusion also works but vested interests wielding global power have suppressed the technology.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#63154 Nov 21, 2013
"Irrationality and opposition to science have always spread through those who profit from exploiting human fears of the unknown. The religious ones spread terror with their terrible threats of eternal hell, and unlimited suffering if we deviate from some imagined true path. Today the vendors of spiritual bliss are doing roaring business, preying upon weak minds and spirits, and dwelling upon the fear of death and the unknown."

- Dr Pervez Hoodbhoy, Pakistani nuclear physicist and rationalist

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#63155 Nov 21, 2013
"Studying religion will not bring any one closer to scientific truth. I know of no religious text – Torah, Bible, or Quran – that provides the basis of a scientific theory or experiment, or that has led to the making of a machine or a piece of scientific equipment. The greater the distance we put between science and religion, the better."

- Dr Pervez Hoodbhoy, Pakistani nuclear physicist and rationalist

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#63156 Nov 21, 2013
A few Pakistani scientists claim to have calculated the temperature of hell. LOL.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#63157 Nov 21, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
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You seem to forget, I already was a Chrisitian before realizing it was all smoke and mirrors, based on belief without evidence and a bunch of logical fallacies.
Do you think you can convert me back? If so, here's my challenge to you. If you can explain the geneology issue to me in a way that actually makes sense, then, as a reward, I will give you the opportunity to further proselytize to me. I'll even share an email address with you that will allow you to reach out to me directly. But you must earn that privilege first by addressing the geneology issue in a satisfactory manner. Are you up to the challenge?
HughBe--- get the PRINCIPLE. Do you want to become a Christian?

COR---You seem to forget, I already was a Chrisitian

HughBe--- Thanks for the timely reminder. Based on my observation you seem a natural for Judaism. It has answers to suit your desires.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#63158 Nov 21, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
A few Pakistani scientists claim to have calculated the temperature of hell. LOL.
Perhaps they tested the temperature on the inside of the skulls of a sample of rabbis.

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