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Voluntarist

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#62334 Nov 11, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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There was a study out a few months ago that summarized all the studies to date on the subject of gay marriage. The conclusions? That children from gay marriages were just as happy, if not more, than children from straight marriages. Which supports your idea that marriage is good for children. However, your bias is a bit homophobic.
Gay Parents and the Marriage Debate
http://douthat.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/11/g...
Gay parents are just as unstable as certain straight parents, there is no doubt that there are some stable gay parents but they still aren't normal lol no matter what your politically loaded study says.

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#62335 Nov 11, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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Marriage is a bond for a reason.
What is that bond and reason underlying marriage?

Something to do with "pleasing God"? LMAO

Or, is there some better rational underlying marriage?

Kindly explain.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#62336 Nov 11, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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Gay parents are just as unstable as certain straight parents, there is no doubt that there are some stable gay parents but they still aren't normal lol no matter what your politically loaded study says.
What do you mean as "normal"?

That study was designed to answer the question on whether children were as happy, or more happy, when coming from gay parents compared to straight parents. It didnt get into your subjective notions of "normal" of the parents. Thats besides the point, and obviously irrelevant, considering the conclusions.

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#62337 Nov 11, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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Children need stability , they need both mother and father to have normal lives.
That logic is misleading.

Back here in Asia and especially in India where marriage is considered a sacred bond and where divorce, family discord and infidelity are rare phenomena, kids get all the support and love from both parents and from grandparents and from aunts and from uncles and from others and yet in most cases the kids turn out selfish, exploitative, emotionally insecure, psychologically unsound, jealous of those better than them, hard-hearted, indifferent to the suffering of the gave nots, aggressive, unhappy, mental slaves of the West, superstitious, sex perverts, ill-mannered, egotistic, venal and corrupt and it is usually seen that they don't hesitate using criminal methods to get ahead in life.

So, in what way has parental togetherness and family support helped these kids who live with both biological parents become better human beings when on the contrary they turn out, in many ways, degraded individuals no better than the lower beasts?

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#62338 Nov 11, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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You are making excuses for gays, doesn't change the fact that they aren't normal.
The word "normal" has shades of meaning ranging from the mundane to the esoteric.

From a deeper perspective, almost no one in the world is "normal" given the serious personality defects that plague most of us.

The perfect human being who is one with the whole of nature and being can be considered "normal", while the rest are pretenders to that title and are in reality freaks of various kinds.

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#62339 Nov 11, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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The third world is going through a phase, eventually the trend will reverse.
There's no mathematical theorem that can ever predict the dynamics of nations.

It will be very difficult if not impossible to repeat the success story of a Japan or a Sweden or a Canada in the Third World nations where the different problems afflicting them are too numerous and too deep-rooted and too complex to sort out with ease and besides most Third World people lack the higher intellectual capacities of the Developed nations.

A quick look at the global IQ chart could provide a clue about the potential of a nation.

Just a few days ago, India launched a space probe headed for Mars that puts India on par with the ESA, NASA and Russia and well the media and people in India were extremely proud of the hi-tech achievement of the ISRO (Indian Space Research Organization). What is usually overlooked in such cases is that the ISRO is covertly and overtly helped by Russia who is a leading space power and that the critical technological inputs provided by the Russians to Indian scientists in defense and space ventures are rarely highlighted in the Indian press and so the naive masses in India feel proud of the "indigenous" genius of its scientists and technologists. Another deceit promoted by Indians that till the recent past used to be supported by industrialists, academics and politicians is that NASA is dominated by Indians mainly drawn from the IITs to the extent of 33 % or more. Some years ago, an intrepid journalist thoroughly investigated this bogus claim and published his findings in the reputed Times of India in which he provided evidence showing that scientists and engineers of Asian origin at NASA were around 6% and no more. Other investigators followed his lead and burst the bubble. Another boast back here is to equate the IITs with MIT with some fools going to the extent of claiming that IIT = MIT + Caltech + Stanford. LOL. Obviously, IIT is simply a great cram school at the undergrad level and is nowhere near the super-elite teaching and highly original cutting edge research centers of excellence like MIT, Caltech, Stanford and other US universities.

India is home to many billionaires and Mumbai ranks in the top 5 cities in the world where billionaires are concentrated. However, what is not stated is that Indian billionaires are blood and scam billionaires who have grown super-wealthy by looting the nation and bedsides not one product created by Indian billionaire industrialists is world class with everything being cheap imitations of great products created in the West or
in Japan and almost everything manufactured back in India is based on technology transfer under license from foreign companies.

So, these are examples of a Third World mentality at work and there are several such examples that I can show you that clearly indicate that it is near impossible to transform a Third World country into a developed nation .

Furthermore, religious extremism, mass superstitions, fatalism, terrorism, casteism, ethno-cultural conflicts, population explosion, rampant violence, degraded status of women and other inveterate drawbacks in Third World countries are insurmountable in most ways.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#62340 Nov 11, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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That logic is misleading.
Back here in Asia and especially in India where marriage is considered a sacred bond and where divorce, family discord and infidelity are rare phenomena, kids get all the support and love from both parents and from grandparents and from aunts and from uncles and from others and yet in most cases the kids turn out selfish, exploitative, emotionally insecure, psychologically unsound, jealous of those better than them, hard-hearted, indifferent to the suffering of the gave nots, aggressive, unhappy, mental slaves of the West, superstitious, sex perverts, ill-mannered, egotistic, venal and corrupt and it is usually seen that they don't hesitate using criminal methods to get ahead in life.
So, in what way has parental togetherness and family support helped these kids who live with both biological parents become better human beings when on the contrary they turn out, in many ways, degraded individuals no better than the lower beasts?
Interesting points. And interesting way of expressing things.

You wouldnt be related to Ted Kaczynski, would you?

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#62341 Nov 11, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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High rates of corruption are everywhere lol
Yes, but there is quite a high degree of transparency, accountability, rule of law and efficiency in the West that is largely missing in say Asia, Africa, Caribbean or South America.

Here, the common citizen is a crook and will not hesitate to use illegal or criminal means to get ahead in life and this rampant dishonesty and inveterate criminal mentality are conspicuously observed in all walks of life.

Ok, Voluntarist, I am tired and am signing out.

Good night.

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#62342 Nov 11, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Interesting points. And interesting way of expressing things.

You wouldnt be related to Ted Kaczynski, would you?
ha ha ha

Good night.

Take care,(papa).

Bye.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#62343 Nov 11, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Thats a promising sign for all of us on two fronts. First, they will be kept away from the govt site. And second, they will be sequestered safely away to yahoo. I mean, who the hell uses yahoo anyhow?
rabbee: why do you love, all the same old bad new news? aren't there enough, good new gnus in africa?
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#62344 Nov 11, 2013
MAAT wrote:
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Ah so that's all the people sending me personalised messages from the white house. I thought they made the names up.
Pondering that, distracts frm the Obama-care issue however.
Naming it so gets more negative responses than naming it 'health-care act'.
Cola used to give a kick, now it will give people sulfites, diabetes, overweight and dementia!
When they switched the recipe productivity world-wide took a nose-dive. Up the anti-depressants and sedatives.
No wonder by the way that army-suicide numbers are so high; as far as i know they also get uppers and downers.
So on return you have addicted people that do not even know it!
(As in the Vietnam years.)
W. 7 is fine, 8 horrific and C 64 to be cherished.
rabbee: just what is any health care act, from the enemies of HaShem G-D worth to any of you. the devil can't protect its selves from the pestilence, plague and famine all commanded by G-D.

something tells me, this kind of hard core idolatry. is not good, for your health at all. but we can always throw, more idolatry at it to not fix it trading for some other pestilence, plague, or famine.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#62345 Nov 11, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
<quoted text>
That logic is misleading.
Back here in Asia and especially in India where marriage is considered a sacred bond and where divorce, family discord and infidelity are rare phenomena, kids get all the support and love from both parents and from grandparents and from aunts and from uncles and from others and yet in most cases the kids turn out selfish, exploitative, emotionally insecure, psychologically unsound, jealous of those better than them, hard-hearted, indifferent to the suffering of the gave nots, aggressive, unhappy, mental slaves of the West, superstitious, sex perverts, ill-mannered, egotistic, venal and corrupt and it is usually seen that they don't hesitate using criminal methods to get ahead in life.
So, in what way has parental togetherness and family support helped these kids who live with both biological parents become better human beings when on the contrary they turn out, in many ways, degraded individuals no better than the lower beasts?
rabbee: not asia's turn, in the barrel again yet? don't ever complain that you are not getting, your fair share of hell and death.

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#62346 Nov 11, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
as if that is not bad enough, i think yahoo. has gone an hired, the people who did the obamacare website.
Agree. The changes they've recently implemented make My Yahoo almost unusable.

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#62347 Nov 11, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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Gay parents are just as unstable as certain straight parents, there is no doubt that there are some stable gay parents but they still aren't normal lol no matter what your politically loaded study says.
Define normal. Many would argue that obsessing over conspiracy theories is not normal.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#62348 Nov 11, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
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Agree. The changes they've recently implemented make My Yahoo almost unusable.
rabbee: yeah every time they say, they are improving their website. i have learned to become, prepared for this less normal in hell experience.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#62349 Nov 11, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
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Define normal. Many would argue that obsessing over conspiracy theories is not normal.
Oh yes, the irony.

OTOH, based upon his last comments, his core position regarding marriage really isnt that terrible. Certainly more enlightened than Rick Santorum.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#62350 Nov 11, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
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Agree. The changes they've recently implemented make My Yahoo almost unusable.
Wow. I didnt know anyone used Yahoo anymore.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#62351 Nov 11, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
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Agree. The changes they've recently implemented make My Yahoo almost unusable.
Still not nearly as bad as the recent Butchering of Slate.com
Voluntarist

United States

#62352 Nov 11, 2013
At a time when Malthusian worries are resurgent and people fear the
consequences for an overcrowded planet, the decline in fertility is surprising and
somewhat reassuring. It means that worries about a population explosion are
themselves being exploded—and it carries a lesson about how to solve the
problems of climate change.
Worth a bundle
Today's fall in fertility is both very large and very fast. Poor countries are racing
through the same demographic transition as rich ones, starting at an earlier stage
of development and moving more quickly. The transition from a rate of five to that
of two, which took 130 years to happen in Britain—from 1800 to 1930—took just
20 years—from 1965 to 1985—in South Korea. Mothers in developing countries
today can expect to have three children. Their mothers had six. In some countries
the speed of decline in the fertility rate has been astonishing. In Iran, it dropped
from seven in 1984 to 1.9 in 2006—and to just 1.5 in Tehran. That is about as
fast as social change can happen.
Falling fertility in poor and middle-income societies is a boon in and of itself. It
means that, for the first time, the majority of mothers are having the number of
children they want, which seems to be—as best one can judge—two.(China is an
exception: its fall in fertility has been coerced.)

http://www.economist.com/node/14744915

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#62353 Nov 11, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
At a time when Malthusian worries are resurgent and people fear the
consequences for an overcrowded planet, the decline in fertility is surprising and
somewhat reassuring. It means that worries about a population explosion are
themselves being exploded—and it carries a lesson about how to solve the
problems of climate change.
Worth a bundle
Today's fall in fertility is both very large and very fast. Poor countries are racing
through the same demographic transition as rich ones, starting at an earlier stage
of development and moving more quickly. The transition from a rate of five to that
of two, which took 130 years to happen in Britain—from 1800 to 1930—took just
20 years—from 1965 to 1985—in South Korea. Mothers in developing countries
today can expect to have three children. Their mothers had six. In some countries
the speed of decline in the fertility rate has been astonishing. In Iran, it dropped
from seven in 1984 to 1.9 in 2006—and to just 1.5 in Tehran. That is about as
fast as social change can happen.
Falling fertility in poor and middle-income societies is a boon in and of itself. It
means that, for the first time, the majority of mothers are having the number of
children they want, which seems to be—as best one can judge—two.(China is an
exception: its fall in fertility has been coerced.)
http://www.economist.com/node/14744915
You know the FUNNIEST part of that article (I just read the whole piece)??

It recognizes that unbridled population growth is terrible for the environment. And at the end, the solution is MORE government.

LOLOL

You won the argument but just lost the debate.

to quote:
".....What's more, the parts of the world where populations are growing fastest are also those most vulnerable to climate change, and a rising population will exacerbate the consequences of global warming—water shortages, mass migration, declining food yields....

....Mankind needs to develop more and cheaper technologies that can enable people to enjoy the fruits of economic growth without destroying the planet's natural capital. That's not going to happen unless governments both use carbon pricing and other policies to encourage investment in those technologies and constrain the damage that economic development does to biodiversity.

Falling fertility may be making poor people's lives better, but it cannot save the Earth. That lies in our own hands..."

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