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#60208 Oct 11, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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Steal your money by force of a gun, that's aggression.
Sometimes people are born into a family of pedophiles , so its best to work within the rules of the pedophiles?
So you agree that relationship with government is not voluntary.
Is that your idea of a valid metaphor? You are one sick puppy.

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#60209 Oct 11, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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If someone pulls a gun in your face after you park your car which one poses a threat?
Who's rights are being protected?

Why do I feel like you're holding back some crucial details leading up to the incident.
Voluntarist

United States

#60210 Oct 11, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
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Is that your idea of a valid metaphor? You are one sick puppy.
Yes

Theft is a crime as well as pedophilia.
Voluntarist

United States

#60211 Oct 11, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
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Why do I feel like you're holding back some crucial details leading up to the incident.
Doesn't matter that it was a case of mistaken identity, being belligerent isn't deserving of a gun to the face otherwise the dmv workers would have them in their faces daily.
Voluntarist

United States

#60212 Oct 11, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
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Yes, and for good reason. Forgot what happened in Iraq with Blackwater?
Black water was the because of government.
Voluntarist

United States

#60213 Oct 11, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Under the current system, private entities of which you have limited control and influence with, called insurance companies, often make the decisions regarding standard of care. Under Obama-care, this relationship continues, more or less, maybe tweaked a little, but essentially the same.
The concern about death panels is misdirected. Its already here. Why tea party people cant see that is beyond me.
So the only difference is that there are tweaked death panels?
Voluntarist

United States

#60214 Oct 11, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Reject the premise. I participate WITH government. Government is me (and you). It does not lord over me. At least in the way you perceive it lords over you. Wrong type of relationship.
Government isn't you, government tells you what you can't do.
Voluntarist

United States

#60216 Oct 11, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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sometimes it does. sometimes not.
So its not necessary for government to support ethics and morals?

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#60217 Oct 11, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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Government isn't you, government tells you what you can't do.
Government of the people, by the people, for the people.

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#60218 Oct 11, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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Doesn't matter that it was a case of mistaken identity, being belligerent isn't deserving of a gun to the face otherwise the dmv workers would have them in their faces daily.
case of mistaken identity? Why are you being stingy with the details. If they mistook you for a dangerous perp, then sounds like it was justified.

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#60219 Oct 11, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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Black water was the because of government.
It was govt. outsourcing to the free market. A colossal failure. Some things are best left to the govt.

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#60220 Oct 11, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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So the only difference is that there are tweaked death panels?
The difference is that everyone gets insurance, with no pre-existing exclusions and no lifelong caps. That alone is huge.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#60221 Oct 11, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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So the only difference is that there are tweaked death panels?
Correct. Death panels, metaphorically speaking of course, are not a new consequence of ACA.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#60222 Oct 11, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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So its not necessary for government to support ethics and morals?
Government is relationships. Laws implement policy. To the extent certain policies are influenced by ethics and morals of the originators, then government supports certain ethics and morals. But it is not a necessary pre-condition, hence the separation of church and state. You can get ethics and morals from Sesame Street just as easy as from your version of the bible.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#60223 Oct 11, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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Doesn't matter that it was a case of mistaken identity, being belligerent isn't deserving of a gun to the face otherwise the dmv workers would have them in their faces daily.
Being belligerent is usually not the smartest conduct with a police officer. You reap what you sow.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#60224 Oct 11, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
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Tangentially, on this topic, have you been hearing the bat-shit crazy stuff coming from Michelle "End-of-times" Bachman and Justice Antonin "the-devil-is-a-real-pers on" Scalia?
Scali
New stuff?

Scalia is hopeless. Cant wait until he gets busted in a restroom somewhere practicing his "wide stance".

Bachman is a cartoon.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#60225 Oct 11, 2013
Eric wrote:
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I didn't rape her. G-d made me do it. Like I said, a perverted idea of marriage.
rabbee: well guess who is in charge, of all the devils also? or are you one of those, that believe. the devil does not have to obey, G-D'S commands to thru them to all the devils?

and you still miss the point, that the woman must agree. and the few times this has happened, means it must be some special woman. and that G-D has already guided, the man and the woman to this point. it is not a random event, but a pre-planned event to take place.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#60226 Oct 11, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Election fraud causes crooks to be elected to power.
rabbee: no need for election fraud, as long as the voters pray to: our father in washington, give us this day our daily hand outs from the hard worker to the lazy.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#60227 Oct 11, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Democracy is veiled autocracy.
rabbee: and what makes you think, there are any democracies left in this whole world? if you even call the united states a democracy today, then you are a liar also.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#60228 Oct 11, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Who are the so-called chosen people - the Japanese? The Zoroastrians? The Hindus? The Jews? The Christians? The Muslims? The Sikhs?- funnily, each religious group attempts to consider itself the "chosen people" by quoting its scripture or on account of egoism - an exercise in delusion and self-destruction.
rabbee: is there any particular reason, you left out joelanity?

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