Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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JOEL THUMBS UP

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#57663 Sep 3, 2013
Who cares whether Jesus lived or not so long as the teachings attributed to him make some sense, can be verified and have practical application.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#57664 Sep 3, 2013
The principle is more important than the principal.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#57665 Sep 3, 2013
Rigor and relevance
Trial and triumph
Sentience and self
Matter and making
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57666 Sep 3, 2013
Adam, I shall come back to play later so please make very good use of the time that you are now being given and ANSWER/respond INTELLIGENTLY to matters raised by me.

Adam 36

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#57667 Sep 3, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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HughBe--- Don't stray, FOCUS. You said, "The NT was written by anonymous authors well after the Jewish Christians died."
YOU were asked to PROVE your "ANONYMOUS authors" and "after the JEWISH Christians died". YOU have FAILED to do so.
Now you have introduced CONTEMPORARY.
Focus....If they weren't contemporaneous they weren't written by the supposed authors. Therefore the authors were anonymous, thus the caption...The Gospel 'According' to...not the Gospel 'by'

Adam 36

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#57668 Sep 3, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Adam, you have FAILED to answer yet another question.
Here it is again, Do you want to study it(NT) in Hebrew?
Sure, do you have an original or an anonymous version?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57669 Sep 3, 2013
Oh, don't be afraid I shall give you a YES or NO to your question as promised.

Adam 36

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#57670 Sep 3, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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What does language have to do with a teaching?
Nothing, nothing at all.
Language is superfluous, content is everything.
Did the Hebrews reject the teachings that their patriarchs borrowed from the pre-Hebrew Babylonian cultures? Why, even the Hebrew G-d El is plagiarized from earlier or from co-existent cultures.
That really isn't the issue. Authorship of the recorded events is the issue.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#57671 Sep 3, 2013
The dissolution and replacement of the ego-formation with a superior nondual range of conscious energy is preferable to its subdual or sublimation.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#57672 Sep 3, 2013
There's not much of a difference in the terms - the Gospel according to so and so and the Gospel by so and so since both cases are simple hearsay works of the words and life-deeds of Jesus. If the apostles are the authors of these books, then the Gospels are an eyewitness account of the teachings and deeds of Jesus and in many instances they could also be based on hearsay because one disciple may have been told something by Jesus and this something was repeated by the disciple to some other disciple who could have made written or mental notes of the same and later incorporated these in his Gospel dedicated to the teachings and deeds of Jesus.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#57673 Sep 3, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
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That really isn't the issue. Authorship of the recorded events is the issue.
Authorship hardly matters, what counts is the substance/contents of the scripture.

If you insist on authorship, tell me how can it ever be verified that the teachings/practices in Tanach were revealed to the patriarchs by their G-d, El?

So, no one can prove whether the teachings of Tanach, Quran or NT are revelations from some G-d whose existence cannot be verified and even if for argument's sake we assume that this typal being calling itself G-d exists, how do you know if he actually spoke to Moses or to Jesus or to someone else.

Even if the teachings of NT can be traced directly to Jesus, what does it matter since in this case too where the authorship has been established, the worth of the NT or of Jesus will be evaluated on the basis of the quality of the teachings. If the verified words of Jesus are found lacking, out goes his reputation and he and his teachings get ignored by the thinking section of society.

So, if you're averagely intelligent, which obviously you're not, you'd never insist on something as flimsy as authorship.

Instead, you'd be more concerned with the quality of the contents of a scripture.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#57674 Sep 3, 2013
Principal is personality; principle is typal rhythm of conscious energy. Principal and principle are related with principal being the partial or complete manifested form of the principle.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#57675 Sep 3, 2013
A principal is not always the one and only manifestation of principle since one principle can have a multiplicity of aspects on the different planes of existence and so this one principle in its gradations are manifested one gradation at a time by the various personifications of the principle with the totality of the principals reflecting the principle in its entirety.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#57676 Sep 3, 2013
Principal is not always a partial or a complete incarnation of a principle since an aspect or various aspects of a principle can infuse the consciousness of a fit human medium who as a result manifests the same.

Adam 36

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#57677 Sep 3, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Authorship hardly matters, what counts is the substance/contents of the scripture.
If you insist on authorship, tell me how can it ever be verified that the teachings/practices in Tanach were revealed to the patriarchs by their G-d, El?
So, no one can prove whether the teachings of Tanach, Quran or NT are revelations from some G-d whose existence cannot be verified and even if for argument's sake we assume that this typal being calling itself G-d exists, how do you know if he actually spoke to Moses or to Jesus or to someone else.
Even if the teachings of NT can be traced directly to Jesus, what does it matter since in this case too where the authorship has been established, the worth of the NT or of Jesus will be evaluated on the basis of the quality of the teachings. If the verified words of Jesus are found lacking, out goes his reputation and he and his teachings get ignored by the thinking section of society.
So, if you're averagely intelligent, which obviously you're not, you'd never insist on something as flimsy as authorship.
Instead, you'd be more concerned with the quality of the contents of a scripture.
I think you may not have seen the entire thread discussion. There were claims about authorship that I challenged. I agree with your analysis regarding authorship but it seems based on your other responses you are the one of less than average intelligence.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#57678 Sep 3, 2013
Among the Semitic cults figures, only Jesus claimed, during moments of deep monistic trance leading to the recall of his supporting typal nature, that he was an incarnation of El on earth, while the Hebrew patriarchs and Muhammad made no such claim about themselves and simply announced that they were messengers of their common G-d. Of course, the Hebrew patriarchs and Muhammad were suitable human media that were penetrated by certain aspects of the plenitude of El's typal nature which as a result manifested in them in the infused form as a voice, sound, light, heat, cold, shivering, frothing at the mouth, burning bush, ascending stairway and the like which are typical vital forms.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#57679 Sep 3, 2013
HughBe wrote:
Oh, don't be afraid I shall give you a YES or NO to your question as promised.
Satan loves you.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#57680 Sep 3, 2013
Wasabi in the Taj serves superlative and authentic Japanese food - everything from the ingredients, wines, water, tableware, linen, furniture, lights, carpets, kitchen equipment and paintings is imported from the best producers in Japan. It is one of the top 50 or so restaurants in the world. It's truly a treat and a delight to visit the Wasabi given its high profile reputation, uber-luxe interiors, rave nouvelle and haute menus and terrific service. It should be awarded at least 2 Michelin stars for its world beating presence and its outstanding signature style. Way to go, Morimoto. Way to go, Taj.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#57681 Sep 3, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Psalm 146:3 "Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help"
Please explain it for me, Adam.
rabbee: well the difference is that the son of man, is not TheSon of G-D Adam - aka Benee Adam. as i fear the mistranslations, of Benee Adam were on purpose. the son of man, is someone with all the alleged as true knowledge of men, without any true knowledge of G-D.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#57682 Sep 3, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Satan loves you.
rabbee: the lusts of hasatan, is not love. any deception involved, then it's not love.

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