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HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#51001 Apr 24, 2013
Eric wrote:
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You see, Hugh, you are comparing apples and oranges. For Brazilians you are using racial make up. For Israelis you are using opinion.
If you compare the actual make up of Brazilians with the actual make up of Israelis, according to Dr. Elhaik the Israelis would have more racial mixing than the Brazilians.
Please try and ADDRESS the points raised.

1.How did this ALMOST ALL are of MIXED race come about?

2.Was it via a policy or doctrine of SEGREGATION and DISCRIMINATION?

3.Explain the citation below.

"MANY Israeli Jews OPPOSE mixed relationships between Jewish women and Arab men. A 2007 opinion survey found that MORE than HALF of Israeli Jews believed intermarriage is equivalent to "NATIONAL TREASON"."

4.Question---Do MANY Jews OPPOSE interracial marriages? Is it more than 50%?

5.How widespread would there be interracial marriages in such a situation/belief system?

6.Explain NATIONAL TREASON.

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Eric---For Israelis you are using opinion

HughBe--- Are you really saying that the opinions of the Israelis don't matter?

Will their opinion affect or influence their behaviour?

So, if you hold the opinion that something is TREASON to the United States of America will YOU engage in it?

When will you get serious?

rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#51002 Apr 24, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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post 50951
doesnt it display?
HughBe wrote:
Oh Eric, tell me the percentage of interracial marriages in Israel and compare it to the Brazilian situation.
Frijoles wrote:
Why do you consider interracial marriages an inverse indicator of discrimination? Where is the empirical justification for that notion?
Note - the term empirical. I am not interested in theories.
rabbee: well it does seem as if G-D, is being highly discriminatory. about who THEY are punishing, for not being true to THEM here in TheTorah. but i can assure you, it is not due to any racial discrimination. even if the world has the tendancy, to falsly claim it as such. maybe you should pray, that it does not get bad enough, for you to get sent into slavery too.
Voluntarist

United States

#51004 Apr 24, 2013
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#51005 Apr 24, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Son, I just NOW meaning today spoke about stands to reason. Originally I did NOT address the matter of DISCRIMINATION.
I want YOU to explain the following, "Multiracial Brazilians make up 42.6% of Brazil's population,"
Question, does "it stands to reason" that DISCRIMINATION cannot be as great as where there is a HIGH level of SEGREGATION as in ISRAEL?
If NOT explain how almost 50% of the Brazilian population is of MIXED RACE.
How did the MIXED race come about.
Try and ADDRESS my questions.
Until you define your terms, your logic can not even be evaluated on the basis of such folkisms as "reasonable"

What exactly do you mean as discrimination? How do you measure it>?

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#51006 Apr 24, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Define ethnicity.
You are introducing new variables.
Actually I am not - you brought the notion into being by commenting on the various social groups in Israel. I could of used the more accurate term ethno-religious but I choose to throw you a softball in the inane hope you would know what to do with it.

SO lets ignore that term - it causes too much confusion on your behalf apparently

What are the groups that you are referring to within Israel with regard to mixing? Arabs vs Jews? Palestinians vs Israelis? Christians vs Jews vs Muslims?

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#51007 Apr 24, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>All Jews have mixed racial heritage as a result of the diaspora. Also, Rebekah, Leah and Rachel were Syrian and Josephs wife was Egyptian.
Part of the problem here is that everyone is using outdated concepts. The concept shouldnt be race - that is meaningless. The concept should be genetic lineage. Which does not necessarily equate to ethnic/ethno-religious/religio us/national groupings....
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#51008 Apr 24, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Part of the problem here is that everyone is using outdated concepts. The concept shouldnt be race - that is meaningless. The concept should be genetic lineage. Which does not necessarily equate to ethnic/ethno-religious/religio us/national groupings....
What I am saying is that all of Israel (both houses) are half Syrian. The northern kingdom of Israel, also called Joseph is half Egyptian. Manasseh and Ephraims' mother was Egyptian. What unites them is not race, it's their common belief in the God of Israel. The Messiah will unite the righteous against the wicked and both come in all races, creeds, and colors.

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#51009 Apr 24, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#51010 Apr 24, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually I am not - you brought the notion into being by commenting on the various social groups in Israel. I could of used the more accurate term ethno-religious but I choose to throw you a softball in the inane hope you would know what to do with it.
SO lets ignore that term - it causes too much confusion on your behalf apparently
What are the groups that you are referring to within Israel with regard to mixing? Arabs vs Jews? Palestinians vs Israelis? Christians vs Jews vs Muslims?
1.Dear clueless, I have been talking about INTERRACIAL marriages and mixing.

2.Your introduction of RELIGION i.e. Christians and Muslims is senseless.

3. I did NOT speak on ETHNICITY as you have so falsely said. I am still waiting on YOU to define ETHNICITY.
Eric

South Elgin, IL

#51011 Apr 24, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Please try and ADDRESS the points raised.
1.How did this ALMOST ALL are of MIXED race come about?
intermarriage
Eric

South Elgin, IL

#51012 Apr 24, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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3.Explain the citation below.
"MANY Israeli Jews OPPOSE mixed relationships between Jewish women and Arab men. A 2007 opinion survey found that MORE than HALF of Israeli Jews believed intermarriage is equivalent to "NATIONAL TREASON"."
It comes from an article on interfaith marriage rather than interracial marriage. After over 60 years of outright hostility between Arabs and Jews, it's understandable. It's politics not race; it's religion not race.

And cited the article on interfaith relations when we are talking about interracial relations is dishonest on your part.
Eric

South Elgin, IL

#51013 Apr 24, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Give me the RACIAL groups.
Give me the percentages.
After which I shall explain, the difference it makes.
Let's get a handle on what race is in relation to our discuss. You have held repeatedly that being a Jew is a question of blood and biology and not religion. Therefore, one race as far as you are concerned is Jew.

Now what did the research show? It showed that Jews are composed of Khazar converts who are Asian. Judeans and Mesopotanian Jews, who are Semites. I am not sure what Greco-Roman Jews are, but that sounds Caucasian. And, Hugh there you have the racial mixing. The research shows that Jews have this racial mixing. It is more than the Brazilians are far as percentage of the population.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#51014 Apr 24, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
It comes from an article on interfaith marriage rather than interracial marriage. After over 60 years of outright hostility between Arabs and Jews, it's understandable. It's politics not race; it's religion not race.
And cited the article on interfaith relations when we are talking about interracial relations is dishonest on your part.
Eric---And cited the ARTICLE on interfaith relations when we are talking about interracial relations is DISHONEST on your part.

HughBe--- Look here Judahite I am NOT your rabbis. I am NOT a LIAR like YOU and them.

The title of the article is Miscegenation, YOU lying serpent. Look at the TOP for the name of the article, slimeball.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscegenation#Is...

In addition, the quote CLEARLY spoke about INTERRACIAL marriage.
The context was NOT about RELIGION, you typically LYING Judahite.

"MANY Israeli Jews OPPOSE mixed relationships between Jewish women and ARAB men. A 2007 opinion survey found that MORE than HALF of Israeli Jews believed INTERMARRIAGE is equivalent to "NATIONAL TREASON"."

Tell me, Judahite what are the beliefs of the RELIGION called ARAB?

BONEHEAD Eric, "Many Israeli Jews oppose mixed relationships between Jewish women and Arab men. A 2007 opinion survey found that more than half of Israeli Jews believed intermarriage is equivalent to "national treason". A group of 35 Jewish men, known as "Fire for Judaism", in Pisgat Ze'ev have started patrolling the town in an effort to stop Jewish women from dating Arab men. The municipality of Petah Tikva has also announced an initiative to prevent interracial relationships, providing a telephone hotline for friends and family to "inform" on Jewish girls who date Arab men as well as psychologists to provide counselling. The town of Kiryat Gat launched a school programme in schools to warn Jewish girls against dating local Bedouin men.[277][278]
In February 2010 Maariv has reported that the Tel Aviv municipality has instituted an official, government-sponsored "counselling program" to discourage Jewish girls from dating and marrying Arab boys. The Times has also reported on a vigilante parents’ group policing the Jerusalem neighborhood of Pisgat Ze'ev to intimidate and discourage local Arab-Jewish couples. The Jewish anti-missionary group Yad L'achim has also performed paramilitary "rescue operations" of Jewish women from NON_JEWISH HUSBANDS and celebrates the "rescued women" on their website."

Finally, Judaism is POISON and promotes EVIL.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#51015 Apr 24, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's get a handle on what race is in relation to our discuss. You have held repeatedly that being a Jew is a question of blood and biology and not religion. Therefore, one race as far as you are concerned is Jew.
Now what did the research show? It showed that Jews are composed of Khazar converts who are Asian. Judeans and Mesopotanian Jews, who are Semites. I am not sure what Greco-Roman Jews are, but that sounds Caucasian. And, Hugh there you have the racial mixing. The research shows that Jews have this racial mixing. It is more than the Brazilians are far as percentage of the population.
Eric---Let's get a handle on what race is in relation to our discuss.

HughBe--- Race is Race.

Eric---You have held repeatedly that being a Jew is a question of blood and biology and not religion.

HughBe--- rear true words spoken, by you.

Eric---Therefore, one race as far as you are concerned is Jew.

HughBe---Correct

Eric---Now what did the research show? It showed that Jews are composed of Khazar converts who are Asian.

HughBe--- so, how does that change my position that TRUE physical Jews are BIOLOGICAL in nature?

Eric--- Judeans and Mesopotanian Jews, who are Semites. I am not sure what Greco-Roman Jews are, but that sounds Caucasian. And, Hugh there you have the racial mixing. The research shows that Jews have this racial mixing. It is more than the Brazilians are far as percentage of the population.

HughBe--- When did mixing occur? Was it over the past 50 years? Was it over a THOUSAND years ago?

The Brazilian situation that I am speaking about is NOW or TODAY and not 50 years ago or hundreds of years ago.

Get it?
Eric

South Elgin, IL

#51016 Apr 24, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Eric---And cited the ARTICLE on interfaith relations when we are talking about interracial relations is DISHONEST on your part.
HughBe--- Look here Judahite I am NOT your rabbis. I am NOT a LIAR like YOU and them.
The title of the article is Miscegenation, YOU lying serpent. Look at the TOP for the name of the article, slimeball.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscegenation#Is...
Have you seen this that predates your article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interfaith_marri...

Did you notice that neither article gives a citation to the source of the quotation.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#51017 Apr 24, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
intermarriage
When? since 2000 or many hundreds of years ago?
Eric

South Elgin, IL

#51018 Apr 24, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>

In addition, the quote CLEARLY spoke about INTERRACIAL marriage.
The context was NOT about RELIGION, you typically LYING Judahite.
"MANY Israeli Jews OPPOSE mixed relationships between Jewish women and ARAB men. A 2007 opinion survey found that MORE than HALF of Israeli Jews believed INTERMARRIAGE is equivalent to "NATIONAL TREASON"."1.
Hugh, Jews and Arabs are of the same race; Semites.

It's a religious thing. It's a political thing. You can't tell me that you don't understand that after 60 years of outright war that there would be hostility to interfaith marriage with the enemy; i.e., treason.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#51019 Apr 24, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
intermarriage
1.if you hold the opinion that something is TREASON to the United States of America will YOU engage in it?

2. Tell me about the RELIGION called ARAB.
Eric

South Elgin, IL

#51020 Apr 24, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
When? since 2000 or many hundreds of years ago?
Doesn't matter. You didn't put a time limit on your statement.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#51021 Apr 24, 2013
Eric wrote:
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Have you seen this that predates your article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interfaith_marri...
Did you notice that neither article gives a citation to the source of the quotation.
Once again, The title of the article is Miscegenation (interracial marriages).

My focus was interracial marriages and that is what the article is about.

I simply went to Israel and Brazil the countries on interest.

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