Smokers light up' with e-cigarettes t...

Smokers light up' with e-cigarettes to sidestep bans

There are 26 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Feb 5, 2009, titled Smokers light up' with e-cigarettes to sidestep bans. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

Last year, several Minnesota judges ruled that smokers can't pretend to be actors and bars can't pretend to be theaters to get around the state smoking ban.

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Bob from ALAMN

Big Lake, MN

#1 Feb 5, 2009
Hey! I'm quoted in the ChiTribe!
Robert

Fresno, CA

#3 Feb 5, 2009
to see a picture or you can buy electronic cigarettes online here: www.invisismoke.com
Shawn Tribble

Albuquerque, NM

#4 Feb 6, 2009
Memo to anyone attached to the American Lung Association:

I you want tobacco smoking to go away, then you better get on board with the e-cigarette. Please get over your holier-than-thou non-smoker attitude. I don't care if you don't like that it looks like traditional smoking. The fact is, it is nothing like traditional smoking. This is a technology that will eventually eliminate tobacco smoking all together. It is not your place to make decisions for people on how they quit, just support them for quitting (PERIOD)!!!
sixstring

Augusta, GA

#5 Feb 6, 2009
American lung association:

Don't bother calling me any longer seeking $$$. If this is how your folks feel about vaporising a non-tobacco product, then you have NO interest in saving lives - only about your own "quit or die" mentality.

WAKE UP!

Nicotine does not cause cancer, tar and the other thousands of chemicals in BURNING cigarette smoke do.
reddog

Park Forest, IL

#7 Feb 9, 2009
Who could possibly be against anything that keeps a person from smoking tobacco? Cigarettes are proven, undoubtably, to cause illness. Anything that bad for you should be replaceable with something less harmful. This is great technology that might save lives. Embrace the future.
youou

Lewisburg, TN

#8 Feb 9, 2009
Smoking helps the non smoker to have the upper hand in job interviews. Who in their right mind would hire a time wasting, drug addict to their team? I for one don't have time or patience for the smoker. Leave their baggage at home. Nobody needs their nasty smoke or smell.

And not too smart either....A smoker just flicked a butt in a garbage truck and they had to dump the load on the road because it was burning so bad.
Just candid

AOL

#9 Feb 9, 2009
It's well known most dummies and 'stupids' are cigarette smokers. Every time you see a smoker you may well be looking at that type of a person.
reddog

Chicago, IL

#11 Feb 11, 2009
Sometimes smart people do stupid things. It's called an addiction. It's a brain disease, not a lack of will power, brain power or low morality. Perhaps you might research the neuroscience of addiction before you call other people "stupid".

“Belief doesn't change facts”

Since: Jul 08

North Chicago, IL

#12 Feb 11, 2009
reddog wrote:
Who could possibly be against anything that keeps a person from smoking tobacco? Cigarettes are proven, undoubtably, to cause illness. Anything that bad for you should be replaceable with something less harmful. This is great technology that might save lives. Embrace the future.
The American Lung Association, for one. Most of the Smoke Free organizations for two. You see, this isn't an "approved" nicotine delivery device, as it isn't made by Big Pharma, so it's "just as bad" as smoking tobacco. If they didn't speak out against them, Big Pharma would stop funding their organizations and scientific research.. and they can't have that now, can they? The message they want everyone to follow is, "Stop smoking cigarettes made by the Evil Tobacco Companies and start using Friendly Pharma products like Nicoderm (tm) or Chantix (tm) or Nicorette (tm)."
reddog

Park Forest, IL

#13 Feb 11, 2009
Mixer wrote:
"The message they want everyone to follow is, "Stop smoking cigarettes m
ade by the Evil Tobacco Companies and start using Friendly Pharma products like Nicoderm (tm) or Chantix (tm) or Nicorette (tm)."

Yes, I've heard this view and I agree. But you know, nicotine replacement products have not worked for me and many others. I actually don't think of the e-cig as a nicotine replacement therapy. I think of it as a new form of "smoking". Nicotine replacement therapy, other than being socially accpetable, and profitable for some, is an attempt to quit. I don't want to quit. I wanted to not stink, not burn up my bed, not hurt others and myself with tar and carcinogens and until now, there was no way to smoke and not do that. I am still addicted, and I am okay with that along with my caffiene, sugar. I beleive the e-cig is harm reduction, which in Europe is practiced and accepted (needle exchange, methadone) here it is not for various reasons. Money being the bottom Line?

I do also beleive that if I am using the e-cig I am in what we call the contemplation stage of quitting altogether (clincally speaking) though I have serious moments of denial. Addiction is like that.

I also beleive that there are uncountable ways to quit, the common denominator being the desire to be drug free.

Thank you Mixer for your intelligent and informative response. We must keep our heads, as it were, if we are to understand and come to terms with the many aspects of this subject of addiction and so forth.

“Belief doesn't change facts”

Since: Jul 08

North Chicago, IL

#14 Feb 12, 2009
reddog wrote:
I actually don't think of the e-cig as a nicotine replacement therapy. I think of it as a new form of "smoking". Nicotine replacement therapy, other than being socially accpetable, and profitable for some, is an attempt to quit.
Personally, I always keep some Aeros tubes with me. Sometimes I'm in a situation where I can't smoke (airplanes, trains, particularly long meetings, etc,) and having a smokeless cigarette handy makes the time between having a regular cigarette go smoother.

I'm not sure I'd spend north of a hundred for a smokeless cigarette, though.
Robert

United States

#15 Feb 12, 2009
they are cheaper at www.invisismoke.com
Shawn

Austin, TX

#16 Feb 13, 2009
"It's well known most dummies and 'stupids' are cigarette smokers. Every time you see a smoker you may well be looking at that type of a person. " justcandid.

Lets see we just elected one of the most intellegent Presidents in the history of this country who is articulate highly educated and oh yeah a smoker. Sure he's trying to quit, so has just every smoker I've ever known including myself.

I've quit several times through out my life, Once in boot camp started up again as soon as I had access to the world. Once again a few years ago made it a few months then hit a rough spell and back off the wagon. I tried again about a year ago with chantix made it a few months but as soon as i was off that mess back at it.

I don't know if the e-cig will be the final solution. But the reality is that I like the action of smoking. Even while on chantix where I was getting absolutely no benifit from the nicotine of smoking I would still end up having a smoke now and again mainly in social situations.

I've had my e-cig for about 2 weeks now and haven't had a regular cig in days and I don't have the same overiding urge to go grab a smoke. When I go outside to hang out with my fellow smokers I just take my e-cig out.

I work in high tech all the people I hang out with are highly intellegnt tech types and at this point there are about 10 of us who already have e-cigs and most the other smokers are thinking about switching as well.

Anyone who hasn't been a smoker doesn't understand what it's like. It is a scientific fact that nicotine and smoking permanently change brain chemistry. this isn't a matter of will power its friggin biology.

E-cigarettes have the potential to change the dynamics of the battle with the harms of cigarette smoking.

Yes it's possible that they may have negative consequnences and yes we'd like to see more studies done to check their safety and ensure that the e-liquids aren't adding extra toxins into our systems.

But the baseline reality is that we know what the negative consequences of smoking tobacco are. And when faced with certain death and only potential death only the stupid choose certain death.

At this point what studies have been done show that at a minimum e-smoking is safer than analogs and that seems more than enough justification to switch to this product from smoking tobacco.
Robert

Fresno, CA

#17 Feb 22, 2009
E Cigarettes are great! If you are going to go out and buy one be sure not to pay too much as prices vary greatly! There are only 1 or 2 manufacturers making them and putting different logo's on them so they are all the same except for the logo. Buy on the internet they are cheaper even after shipping. The replacement cartridges can be bought for cheap and the Super e cig can be bought on sale this week at this place with low low prices; www.invisismoke.com
youou

Lewisburg, TN

#18 Feb 22, 2009
E-Cigs are for the weak and wimpy. Man up and quit....that goes for hcs girls too.
youou

Lewisburg, TN

#19 Feb 22, 2009
Shawn wrote:
"It's well known most dummies and 'stupids' are cigarette smokers. Every time you see a smoker you may well be looking at that type of a person. " justcandid.
Lets see we just elected one of the most intellegent Presidents in the history of this country who is articulate highly educated and oh yeah a smoker.
Boy you are saying a mouthful just after one month...."the most" that qualifies you as a dummy too. next dummy please...
mitch

Southgate, MI

#20 Feb 23, 2009
way cheaper and delivered from michigan...prices for kits start under $30 with free shipping at http://www.safesmokes.net

Since: Apr 08

United States

#22 Feb 24, 2009
Today is day 81 without smoking a tobacco product. The electronic cigarette, has made a way possible.
jjrg7

Raleigh, NC

#23 Feb 24, 2009
I am suprised to not have heard more about this. It would seem like an ideal product for smokers having a hard time quitting.
Zebra

Palatine, IL

#24 Feb 24, 2009
I quit smoking.....numerous times. Unfortunately, it only lasted for a few hours. I just ordered an e-cig a couple of days ago, and I HOPE that this will get me off tobacco cigarettes.

To all you self-righteous twits who have never smoked and have zero idea of how nasty withdrawal symptoms can be, go scream at some heroin addict and tell him he is weak for using methadone.

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