Sikeston School Board/Administrators

Sikeston School Board/Administrators

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Guest

Moberly, MO

#1 Mar 23, 2010
Ladies and Gentlemen, some things to consider as you review and discuss the budget for the 2010-2011 school year:(1) What has changed since I was a kid that now requires all these "Academic Leaders" and "Assistant Principals"?(2) Are you serious? Our teachers need "coaches"?(3) How many secretaries do they really need at Central Office?(4)How many "Assistant Superintendents" do we need?
Guest5

Moberly, MO

#2 Mar 23, 2010
Amen, Guest. I'm glad someone finally noticed.
Guest2

Saint Louis, MO

#3 Mar 23, 2010
How did you manage to overlook all of the sports coaches?!??!?
Guest

Moberly, MO

#4 Mar 24, 2010
Excellent point, Guest2. Thank you for pointing that out. It will be interesting to see what cuts are made when we see the final budget.
Cheerio

Moberly, MO

#5 Mar 24, 2010
I'm trying to remember how many "Assistants" Sam Harbin had...and Jerry Nunn....??????
Sade

Moberly, MO

#6 Mar 24, 2010
Guest wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen, some things to consider as you review and discuss the budget for the 2010-2011 school year:(1) What has changed since I was a kid that now requires all these "Academic Leaders" and "Assistant Principals"?(2) Are you serious? Our teachers need "coaches"?(3) How many secretaries do they really need at Central Office?(4)How many "Assistant Superintendents" do we need?
What does point(2)mean?
Curtis

Sikeston, MO

#7 Mar 24, 2010
I realize it's hard for the public to understand all of the requirements public schools now face under the No Child Left Behind Act. I'm not sure if all of the administrators get it, but they didn't make all of these hires because they wanted them, many positions are required for a district of Sikeston's size.
Guest3

Moberly, MO

#8 Mar 24, 2010
Curtis wrote:
I realize it's hard for the public to understand all of the requirements public schools now face under the No Child Left Behind Act. I'm not sure if all of the administrators get it, but they didn't make all of these hires because they wanted them, many positions are required for a district of Sikeston's size.
Well, I wish a Sikeston teacher would chime in and answer whether that is required by No Child Left Behind. It seems to be fairly common knowledge that Sikeston Schools do a lot of things other schools don't do...number of days of attendance and useless meeting after meeting, extra work, extra hours, report this, report that.... Funny thing is it doesn't seem to get results. Isn't that the bottom line? Results! Are we turning out smarter kids than 25 years ago? Are Sikeston kids performing better than other school districts on MAP tests, SATs, etc.??
make the cuts

United States

#9 Mar 24, 2010
I do think that additional requirements by the federal and local governing agencies have led to the addition of many of these jobs. NCLB will be going away soon, but Obama has his own plan, so it will be just more of the same as far as reporting goes.

Now, I also think that Sikeston took all of this as a way to justify adding more positions. Well, it's time to cut back.

The cuts that are being made are on the peripheral. What's really being done is hurting those that aren't making a great deal of money (like hourly staff). Each highly salaried person at the BOE office have a secretary. Sorry, that's not needed. Have 1 for every 2/3 salaried members. And of the three assistant superintendents, cut 1. One should be close to retirement (the one rewarded for doing poorly as an elementary teacher by getting a higher paying job). And they don't need an HR department. Have the assistant superintendents do the hiring.

It's also time for the superintendent to retire. He's waiting on his daughter to graduate, but the district can't afford to let him "guide" it along this path for the next two years.

While the academic leader positions that were put in place were good in theory, the execution hasn't quite been there. You're talking 6-7 highly priced administrators that weren't in place just 3 years ago. How much does that add up to when you include an assistant superintendent position along with the HR department and probably 4 other hourly employees at the BOE office? Think it's close to $900,000 or so?

Also, cut programs like the reading program and other expensive programs. You don't need all of these extra programs if you have good teachers.

Look at the BOE elections coming up soon, too. The superintendent should answer to the BOE not the other way around. That's not the position of one of those running for re-election. Shouldn't be too hard to figure it out. While she may not be the best candidate, I think it's time to put someone back on the board. We need minority representation back. Cut the DUI one.

I can go along with cutting the full-time academic coaches. I have no idea how many there are, but let's say five or six. Go with retired teachers working part-time (no benefits) Savings of $200,000+

So, my plan would go like this:

1) Force superintendent to retire. Hire someone with some vision that can actually lead the district not just do things to keep them the same. Hiring someone younger and better might save about $30,000.

2) Force an assistant superintendent to retire. Saving of about $105,000.

3) Cut the academic leader positions. I'm not sure how much they make, but I would think the savings would be around $400,000.

4) Cut some secretarial positions at the BOE and other offices. Let's say six-eight positions. There's another $200,000.

5) Cut expensive programs. Save $200,000

6) Cut full-time coaches. Save $200,000

7) Elect a BOE that will force the superintendent to answer to them not the other way around.

That's over $1 million saved in one year. Take some of this to invest in the salaries for teachers to attract the best teachers in the area. With the best teachers, you don't need some expensive programs. Just let them teach.
make the cuts

United States

#10 Mar 24, 2010
Want to know how much some in the district make, here's some two year old data.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/special...

Just search by district name.

If you click on the details for an individual, you can see how many years they have. 30 is full retirement.
Guest

Moberly, MO

#11 Mar 24, 2010
make the cuts wrote:
I do think that additional requirements by the federal and local governing agencies have led to the addition of many of these jobs. NCLB will be going away soon, but Obama has his own plan, so it will be just more of the same as far as reporting goes.
Now, I also think that Sikeston took all of this as a way to justify adding more positions. Well, it's time to cut back.
The cuts that are being made are on the peripheral. What's really being done is hurting those that aren't making a great deal of money (like hourly staff). Each highly salaried person at the BOE office have a secretary. Sorry, that's not needed. Have 1 for every 2/3 salaried members. And of the three assistant superintendents, cut 1. One should be close to retirement (the one rewarded for doing poorly as an elementary teacher by getting a higher paying job). And they don't need an HR department. Have the assistant superintendents do the hiring.
It's also time for the superintendent to retire. He's waiting on his daughter to graduate, but the district can't afford to let him "guide" it along this path for the next two years.
While the academic leader positions that were put in place were good in theory, the execution hasn't quite been there. You're talking 6-7 highly priced administrators that weren't in place just 3 years ago. How much does that add up to when you include an assistant superintendent position along with the HR department and probably 4 other hourly employees at the BOE office? Think it's close to $900,000 or so?
Also, cut programs like the reading program and other expensive programs. You don't need all of these extra programs if you have good teachers.
Look at the BOE elections coming up soon, too. The superintendent should answer to the BOE not the other way around. That's not the position of one of those running for re-election. Shouldn't be too hard to figure it out. While she may not be the best candidate, I think it's time to put someone back on the board. We need minority representation back. Cut the DUI one.
I can go along with cutting the full-time academic coaches. I have no idea how many there are, but let's say five or six. Go with retired teachers working part-time (no benefits) Savings of $200,000+
So, my plan would go like this:
1) Force superintendent to retire. Hire someone with some vision that can actually lead the district not just do things to keep them the same. Hiring someone younger and better might save about $30,000.
2) Force an assistant superintendent to retire. Saving of about $105,000.
3) Cut the academic leader positions. I'm not sure how much they make, but I would think the savings would be around $400,000.
4) Cut some secretarial positions at the BOE and other offices. Let's say six-eight positions. There's another $200,000.
5) Cut expensive programs. Save $200,000
6) Cut full-time coaches. Save $200,000
7) Elect a BOE that will force the superintendent to answer to them not the other way around.
That's over $1 million saved in one year. Take some of this to invest in the salaries for teachers to attract the best teachers in the area. With the best teachers, you don't need some expensive programs. Just let them teach.
Wow...and one of the Board members recently said no one on Topix knows anything. I am impressed. You are obviously very smart and very well-informed. Please run for School Board or submit an application for the Superintendent's job. Your analysis is spot-on. I agree with you on every point. Unfortunately,#7 is probably the reason none of the things you suggest will happen. The School Board thinks they answer to Borgsmiller when, in fact, they answer to the voters. Borgsmiller serves at the pleasure of the School Board.
Guest

Moberly, MO

#12 Mar 24, 2010
Reading "Coach"...$57,000 per year...What????
Guest

Moberly, MO

#13 Mar 24, 2010
School Board, are you kidding me? "All administrative staff positions will be contracted" for FY 2010-2011? It appears you do answer to Borgsmiller. What a joke.

By the way, I'm not a teacher and I do not work for the school system. I am a college educated businessman who knows a little something about budgets.
Sade

Moberly, MO

#14 Mar 24, 2010
So, just what is a school board member's job? Are they just yes-men/women? Whatever the Superintendent says? If so, why do we need them? Does that just provide someone for Borgsmiller to blame for the hard decisions?

Check your propert tax statements. The biggest portion goes to support the schools. Shouldn't we expect fiscal responsibility?
whatever

Saint Louis, MO

#15 Mar 24, 2010
You people are absolutely ridiculous. I've never seen people that are so gung ho about people losing their jobs. It blows my mind. If it were a bunch of uneducated factory workers you people would throw a fit. So many people are jealous of educators and I don't understand why. Please let me know.
Guest

Moberly, MO

#16 Mar 25, 2010
whatever wrote:
You people are absolutely ridiculous. I've never seen people that are so gung ho about people losing their jobs. It blows my mind. If it were a bunch of uneducated factory workers you people would throw a fit. So many people are jealous of educators and I don't understand why. Please let me know.
Oh, but you are okay with the custodians losing their jobs, the support staff having their hours reduced, a school nurse losing her job, three School Resource Officers being elimiated??? My prayer would be that no one would have to lose their job, but why is everyone in the "Ivory Tower" protected? I know times are hard and cuts must be made. It's sad really. But cut the "fat", not the essential services.
Cheerio

Moberly, MO

#17 Mar 25, 2010
I know all School Board members but one. They are good people whom I deeply respect. But sometimes a room full of nice people, especially "volunteers" with no real "skin in the game", can be easily controlled, pursuaded, and manipulated by someone perceived as their "leader" (Superintendent).
Guest

Moberly, MO

#18 Mar 25, 2010
In my many years of dealing with budgets, I have learned if you want to find the "fat", talk to the people in the trenches. Not the people at the top.
The Dodger

United States

#19 Mar 25, 2010
So you learned that dirty floors, sicks kids puking, school maintiance and security are fat. I can deal with that, but who's going to take of the actual school? Are teachers now going to act as Janitors and mow the yard after school? When a kid pukes, will the Principle clean it up? When a kid brings a gun to school, is the teacher going to stop them?

Yeah. Fat alright. A big fat problem.
taxpayer

Granite City, IL

#20 Mar 25, 2010
In my opinion, bring back ass bustin in school an you wont need all of these people when you restore respect to the teacher then you have a place to bitch till then rock on SPS. An Borgsmiller does a great job as an educator if it hadnt been for him alot of people wouldn`t have made it to see a diploma.
As for me an educated guess is as usual this a voters way to stir chit as for its election time why wait till now to voice your opinion. Go figure, i bet the one with the knowledge is the one runnin for a seat in the office of thr BOE. My opinion. Why do we need all of the cameras watching our loved ones, I forgot its because the BOE isnt doin there jobs why do the educators have to babysit your snotty nosed disrespectful little brats an teenagers, because you the parent wont take time to correct them as a little one an let it continue to grow into a walking hormonenal inbalanced confused zit thats pissed at the world because of mom an dad. THATS THE BOTTOMLINE an everyone has to point a finger at the educators because they spend more than the parents do with there kids.

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