On Fighting Illegal Drugs and Some Gas-Station-Bought Incense
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#1 Feb 22, 2010
#2 Feb 22, 2010
[from link source]
Pettis County considers ban on fake marijuana
Published: Sunday, February 21, 2010 2:03 AM CST
SEDALIA, Mo.(AP)-- A central Missouri county is taking steps to become the first county in the state -- perhaps even in the nation -- to pass an ordinance prohibiting a legal mix of herbs.
Pettis County Prosecutor Jeff Mittelhauser told the Sedalia Democrat that he is pushing for an ordinance to prohibit the possession or sale of a synthetic marijuana commonly sold as K2.
Lawmakers in Missouri and Kansas are considering banning the chemical substance, which is not regulated nationally. It is banned in most of Europe.
K2 is a mix of dried flowers, herbs and tobacco that is combined with synthetic cannabinoids. It is currently marketed as incense and sold at smoke shops and gas stations.
Information from: The Sedalia Democrat, http://www.sedaliademocrat.com
#3 Feb 22, 2010
So I guess it really is mood altering?
#4 Feb 22, 2010
Those very concerned about it, state it acts on the human body much like marijuana, hence the concern for constituents to ask legislators to take action against it-- as its use has become widespread among the illegal drug culture enough to cause statewide concern:
#5 Feb 22, 2010
[from the link source]
By Joel Currier
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
Some know it as fake pot.
Users say the leafy green herbal blend gives them a high similar to marijuana.
And for now, it remains legal in Missouri and Illinois.
It's called K2. Police say the brand of "herbal incense" is growing in popularity among teens and young adults in the St. Louis area.
But a proposed K2 ban in Missouri aims to kill the buzz about the herb before it really fires up. Meanwhile, police and school officials say they are concerned about its unknown health risks as it becomes more widespread. Kansas could soon become the first state to outlaw it, after its House followed the Senate and approved a bill Wednesday targeting chemicals used to make K2.
#6 Feb 22, 2010
From another source, CBS News:
#7 Feb 22, 2010
Authorities in Johnson County, Kan., discovered ex-convicts on probation smoking K2, and said it is spreading to high school students.
"This has become extremely popular," said Linda Weber, owner of The Vise smoke shop in the St. Louis suburb of St. Peters, who said she only sells to adults.
She said she sells about 60 packages a week, with suppliers calling her weekly to pitch new brands. She said she's keeping an eye on what state lawmakers decide, though, because "I definitely don't want to be selling it if it comes out that it's harmful."
#8 Feb 22, 2010
*from linked CBS article
#9 Feb 22, 2010
[from CBS link above]
A proposed bill in Missouri would make possession a felony punishable by up to seven years in prison - identical to punishments given to users of real marijuana. A similar bill in Kansas would make possession a misdemeanor punishable, with up to a year in jail and a $2,500 fine, also the same as marijuana convictions.
The products are sold widely, but authorities in other states contacted by The Associated Press, including Pennsylvania, California and Michigan, said they haven't heard of their use as a drug.
Police in Missouri and Kansas said they've become aware of K2 in recent weeks.
In the rural southern Missouri city of West Plains, K2 is sold in a head shop just blocks from the high school. A botched attempt by teens to steal K2 from the shop brought the substance to the attention of police.
"A 10-year-old child could walk into a head shop and buy it," said West Plains Detective Shawn Rhoads. "It's not a tobacco, it's not regulated by anything. It would be like sending my 10-year-old son into Wal-Mart to buy potpourri."
Although it is legal, the military has banned possession of K2. The federal Drug Enforcement Administration has classified it a "drug or chemical of concern."
#10 Feb 22, 2010
Thanks for the information. I think it's interesting that it can create some of the same effects as marijuana but is not classified the same and is completely legal in most places. I always thought it was just something different to smoke like clove cigarettes. Also, if it has synthetis cannabinoids, does it show up in a regular drug screen as THC or is there a way to test for it at all? Personally, I don't see how something like this could be all that terrible if it wasn't for kids buying it. It's scary to think that my children could have complete access to something like this.
#11 Feb 22, 2010
Available on some store shelves, and some lawmakers are finding it serious enough to make the effort to stop it in its tracks:
#12 Feb 22, 2010
and we always trust our lawmakers don't we..........
#13 Feb 25, 2010
To be perfectly honest, weed or fake weed shouldn't be illegal, regulate it like cigarettes yeah, however alcohol is much worse for you then weed is, and smoked in moderation it really has no real health consequences. Whereas alcohol is much more damaging and much more likely to cause things like domestic violence and such. Our nation is turning into a nation of soccer moms and prudes, if some people choose to smoke weed then that should be their prerogative. If you are concerned about your children getting to this stuff making it illegal isn't going to solve the problem, better parenting will.
#14 Feb 25, 2010
I could care less if they make it illegal or not. I think it is very ignorant for someone to say that better parenting will keep their kids from trying drugs. I've known parents that smoke weed but their kids, who are now adults, have never touched it. I know that my parents were very good about discussing the dangers of drugs and drinking and driving, yet I did it anyway. I can appreciate regulating these things and only selling them to adults, but the rest of this comment I could have done without. I also don't agree with being called a prude because I don't agree with drugs anymore than you would appreciate being called a junkie.
Saint Louis, MO
#15 Feb 26, 2010
Anything that takes profits away from the alcohol or pharmeceutical industries and provides actual pain relief and recreational pleasure HAS to be stopped! It's going to ruin the youth of our nation! YOU GO JOE MCCARTHEY! Damned brainwashed idiots who refuse to face the truth because then they would have to admit they were wrong. The same government telling us this crap is the same government that in the 50's told schoolkids in the event of a nuclear bomb attack from the commies they would be safe by getting under their desks! PLEASE!
#16 Feb 26, 2010
#17 Feb 26, 2010
Published February 25, 2010 11:28 pm - Recent retail availability in Joplin of a legal synthetic form of marijuana, known as K2, appears to be shrinking in the face of a possible government crackdown. K2, or Spice as it is most often called, has been available in recent months at some tobacco stores and at least one head shop in Joplin. But local retailers now seem to be voluntarily discontinuing sales.
Possible crackdown apparently stubbing mock-marijuana sales
By Jeff Lehr
Recent retail availability in Joplin of a legal synthetic form of marijuana, known as K2, appears to be shrinking in the face of a possible government crackdown.
K2, or Spice as it is most often called, has been available in recent months at some tobacco stores and at least one head shop in Joplin. But local retailers now seem to be voluntarily discontinuing sales.
The product, a mix of herbs and spices sprayed with a synthetic compound similar to THC, the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana, has been commonly sold as incense. But buyers have been smoking it to obtain a high similar to marijuana.
Kelly Maddy, president of the Joplin Chapter of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, said the herbs and spices in a package of K2 are not what get smokers high. Its the chemical with which they are treated.
Its not a natural (cannabinoid) like marijuana, Maddy said.Its a research chemical.
The chemical interacts with receptors in the brain in a manner similar to THC. But K2 users test clean for THC, making it appealing to some people who face drug tests in the workplace or others on court-ordered probation, Maddy said.
He said some people who have tried K2 tell him that it differs from marijuana in at least two respects. The high lasts just 15 to 30 minutes. Maddy said K2 users also have reported experiencing feelings of anxiety and paranoia that they associate with first-time use of marijuana; such feelings tend to disappear with repeated use of pot.
K2s ingredients are not yet regulated in the U.S., although they are banned in Europe.
The popularity of K2 use in the Joplin area remains open to debate.
Cpl. Larry Stout, of the Jasper County Drug Task Force, said he has seen it pop up only a couple of times in task force operations.
Because its not illegal, were not chasing it, Stout said.So were not seeing much of it.
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#18 Feb 26, 2010
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Possible crackdown apparently stubbing mock-marijuana sales
He said pot smokers have told task force members that K2 is not as good as marijuana and tends to be higher priced. A 3-gram package of K2 is sold in stores for anywhere from $20 to $50. A head shop on West 20th Street was selling it for $30 plus tax until about a week ago when the operator said he was discontinuing sales.
What makes Stout think that not that many people are using it locally is that he has not fielded a single complaint from parents about it. He said students he teaches in high-school classes have yet to raise it as a topic.
A tobacco store operator in Joplin told the Globe that he sold K2 in December but discontinued sales once he learned that people were buying it to get high. He said it had been presented by a supplier as a popular form of incense. He said sales were brisk before he learned how customers were using it. He said he stopped carrying it because he did not wish to take the risks that type of use presented.
Paranoia about sales among retailers may have increased earlier this month with a raid of a supplier and a store in Lawrence, Kan., by federal, state and local authorities.
The owner of Bouncing Bear Botanicals, which supplied a head shop called Sacred Journey with K2, was arrested on multiple counts of distribution of controlled substances, such as mescaline and lysergic acid amide, which is related to LSD. Authorities seized more than $700,000 from the suppliers business and bank accounts, and K2 was pulled off the shelves of Sacred Journey.
The suppliers lawyer maintains that his client was operating a legitimate botanical plant business.
Tom Gasparoli, a spokesman for the Food and Drug Administration, told the Globe that K2 has come to the federal agencys attention. He provided the following agency statement:K2 is a product with unknown safety risks. The agency has preliminary reports of adverse events and is concerned about the use and abuse of this product. FDA generally considers products like this to be illegal street drug alternatives.
He said the agencys study of the product, including any complaints or reports of adverse events, could be followed by action from either a safety or a criminal standpoint.
Maddy, the local NORML president, described the flap over K2 as another unfortunate byproduct of the prohibition of marijuana. He said that if concern about a lack of regulation leads to criminalization, K2 is likely to wind up on the street as just another black market revenue source for organized crime and drug dealers.
He said he finds it unfortunate that just two weeks after the chief justice of the Missouri Supreme Court warned lawmakers that the greatest waste of state resources is over-incarceration of nonviolent offenders, the Missouri Legislature is pondering making possession of yet another substance a felony.
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Saint Louis, MO
#20 Mar 5, 2010
I don't understand Rain, are you for or against legalizing pot? I am completely FOR it, but will never, I say never, pay the kind of money I've heard it costs for K2 or fake pot. My point is that the government has no right to try to tell grown adults what they can or can't have. And, I wouldn't smoke the fake trash for just the reason stated in the article -research drug, chemials...their are NO carcinogens in pot. Just like alcohol, some people enjoy it, some don't, but all should have the right to their own choice so long as it doesn't hurt anyone else or their job performance. Instead of random drug tests, I believe they should mandatory SOBRIETY tests (every day at the door if necessary), but what someone may have done as far as a month earlier should NOT put them on the unemployment line. Random drug tests are not for the safety of the company or it's employees, it's for the discount on their INSURANCE by being "proactive", and looking out for our befit. I just wish everybody would get real about this.
#21 Mar 5, 2010
Summer's Eve is just trying to further the propaganda by posting it here. She sounds like a tobacco or alcohol executive! LOL!
Notice how they had to throw in the knee-jerk account that a ten year old could walk into a shop and buy it? I call bullsh!t. I have NEVER seen a shop that allowed anyone under eighteen to stroll in and buy something.
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