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SAY NO to Common Core

Dexter, MO

#1 Mar 20, 2014
Everyone must read this very detailed article posted in the Facebook Group: Missouri Moms Against Common Core. It has actual proof that the school administration could be hiding something. The Sunshine law dictates that boards must produce board meeting minutes and other information requested within 72-hours. They are refusing to comply until April 10, 2014....THIS IS 2 DAYS AFTER WE VOTE. Vote "NO."

Please read this article on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/notes/missouri-moms-...
against CC

Benton, MO

#2 Mar 20, 2014
I've read it. Proves nothing. What exactly does everyone want from the minutes that wasn't already made public? And very little of that had to do with the bond issue. I hate common core but there's no link to the bond issue and it. But at least you got another topic started on it. I was hoping someone would. There's not enough!
guest

Saint Louis, MO

#3 Mar 20, 2014
against CC wrote:
I've read it. Proves nothing. What exactly does everyone want from the minutes that wasn't already made public? And very little of that had to do with the bond issue. I hate common core but there's no link to the bond issue and it. But at least you got another topic started on it. I was hoping someone would. There's not enough!
It doesn't matter the minutes should be a matter of public record and we should have access to them period
against CC

Benton, MO

#4 Mar 20, 2014
That's fine and dandy. I don't know the law specifically, but I also don't care about this issue as it relates to the bigger picture. Here's why:

1) Those wanting it are trying to cry wolf over the district with regards to CC and somehow twist it into the bond issue. It doesn't belong in the Facebook post because CC and the bond aren't tied together at all. So many people are following this Salwa woman, but I question anyone that believes anything she says or posts on Facebook with regards to this. She knows she's lying, or she's incredibly stupid. If you follow that, then you've got issues too.

2) They're going after textbooks, one that have been banned in one county that they know of in the entire country. They think these are new books that the school has approved because of CC. I doubt they realize the school has used these books for years and that it's not even up to the school to choose the book. They also want everyone to make it seem like this affects so many students. This one book affects approximately 1/2 of 1% of students. Those that have the textbook are students who actually choose to take the class.

Maybe next time Salwa and her sheep might want to sign their name. I doubt it since they know they're lying. It's easier to submit it to a Facebook page and let that page be the face of their stupidity.
Guest

Jackson, MO

#5 Mar 20, 2014
I too saw that on Facebook. There is evidence all over this country of schools wanting to build high tech buildings and it's just my opinion but do believe it's to accommodate CC. Many schools need improvements and updates but it's been said over and over that because of CC our classrooms as they exist today will no longer be if CC is not taken out of our schools.
No to Common Core

Dexter, MO

#6 Mar 21, 2014
First of all, the new buildings will MOST DEFINITELY accommodate common core implementation. Salwa knows exactly what she is talking about. She is very intelligent, and brave for taking a stand. She has a HUGE backing of moms and dads in Sikeston as well. No need to run her name on here simply because she is exposing common core and the bond issue for what it really is. The only reason some of the folks are writing letters and writing comments in support of common core is because they either want a job with the school, or think they are super stars of the Sikeston community.

Again, remember to do your civic duty and vote NO on the bond issue. Your pocketbook will thank you for it the next 20 years.
Concerned

United States

#7 Mar 21, 2014
I pay 6800.00 in property taxes every Dec. I need to keep the 800.00 that I would paying each year to improve my own property not give it to extreme spending. I don't live out of my means I have no children. I don't ask for help from anyone. And I am the first to help someone in need. But 33 million. Is out of the ball park. And I will feel the hit. Please think. Of hard working middle class. This can be done for a whole lot less. Just think if I could save that 800.OO. Over a 10 year period that would be 8,000.00 in a retirement account. Or the government can take care of me when I have no money. Think long term.
Clueless

Saint Louis, MO

#9 Mar 21, 2014
All you idiots that are so sure the buildings don't need to be replaced need to come and visit the schools. Are you serious?!?!?!?
c3po

Saint Louis, MO

#11 Mar 22, 2014
Clueless wrote:
All you idiots that are so sure the buildings don't need to be replaced need to come and visit the schools. Are you serious?!?!?!?
No one really feels the buildings don't need some care but don't rob the citizens to do it. Most can't take the hit on their taxes for the next 20 years. They waste way to much money every year come down off their high horse and get in the real world then more people will be willing to help.Everyone can drive by the new building that has just been built and see from the street can see a lot of wasted money. I will be voting no and asking everyone I know to do the same.
Question

Saint Louis, MO

#12 Mar 22, 2014
c3po wrote:
<quoted text>No one really feels the buildings don't need some care but don't rob the citizens to do it. Most can't take the hit on their taxes for the next 20 years. They waste way to much money every year come down off their high horse and get in the real world then more people will be willing to help.Everyone can drive by the new building that has just been built and see from the street can see a lot of wasted money. I will be voting no and asking everyone I know to do the same.
Okay so where has the wasted money been spend? Please indicate specifics that you know to be true about the newer buildings(built like six years ago) as well as the waste you say has occurred for years? It is a tax increase but it's not as huge as people are making it. It's 20.3% on the school tax portion of your property tax. That comes to twenty dollars a month for me. It's worth twenty dollars a month for my children to get out of old decaying buildings full go allergens. Not to mention the fact that the buildings are crowded and incapable of running the electrical needs of all the technology. They can't just tear down concrete walls and fix that. Everyone keeps talking about the waste. I've been to three of these informational meetings the school has held. I was allowed to voice my concerns and obtained solid answers that helped me better see the situation. I will say that there were very few people at the meetings. Very fe parents and concerned citizens. It's easy to look at the cost, point fingers at people you don't know doing jobs you don't understand and write it off as wasteful. I want examples and proof. You got that for us?
Misinformed Moms

Saint Louis, MO

#13 Mar 22, 2014
SAY NO to Common Core wrote:
Everyone must read this very detailed article posted in the Facebook Group: Missouri Moms Against Common Core. It has actual proof that the school administration could be hiding something. The Sunshine law dictates that boards must produce board meeting minutes and other information requested within 72-hours. They are refusing to comply until April 10, 2014....THIS IS 2 DAYS AFTER WE VOTE. Vote "NO."
Please read this article on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/notes/missouri-moms-...
A very long post is not equivalent to very detailed. That post is very deceptive and filled with one-sided half truths. The school letter served no purpose except to be mean as did the comments naming specific school officials. Shame on you Salwa and friends. These are the people in your neighborhoods, in your churches, and the people who have dutifully and passionately done what they felt to be what's educationally best for the kids of this community for YEARS! They aren't tied to the common core or the government. They don't have hidden agendas. They have jobs. They are state employees. They don't have some hidden agenda. They are not part of this "conspiracy" you so frequently speak of. Stop attacking the wrong people. God sees you, even if all your followers do not.
Guest

Dexter, MO

#14 Mar 22, 2014
Question wrote:
<quoted text>Okay so where has the wasted money been spend? Please indicate specifics that you know to be true about the newer buildings(built like six years ago) as well as the waste you say has occurred for years? It is a tax increase but it's not as huge as people are making it. It's 20.3% on the school tax portion of your property tax. That comes to twenty dollars a month for me. It's worth twenty dollars a month for my children to get out of old decaying buildings full go allergens. Not to mention the fact that the buildings are crowded and incapable of running the electrical needs of all the technology. They can't just tear down concrete walls and fix that. Everyone keeps talking about the waste. I've been to three of these informational meetings the school has held. I was allowed to voice my concerns and obtained solid answers that helped me better see the situation. I will say that there were very few people at the meetings. Very fe parents and concerned citizens. It's easy to look at the cost, point fingers at people you don't know doing jobs you don't understand and write it off as wasteful. I want examples and proof. You got that for us?
Perhaps it's only $20 for YOU, but for others it's much much more. In addition to that you have to consider the bigger picture here....or at least those that are trying to live within their means do. Almost everyone has seen a HUGE increase in their cost of healthcare insurance (up to & over 100% in some cases). Food & gas prices have & are continuing to sky rocket. Most have seen increases in electrical bills. And the list goes on & on. The one thing that doesn't seem to be increasing however is salaries. Oh some might see a meager 1-3% raise, but all that does is cause many to be in a higher tax bracket! And some people are out of work & the employment prospects are quite dismal. My point is that these things add up quickly & quite substantially. And then for the schools to bring this outrageously expensive plan to us is absolutely ludicrous!
I also have a MAJOR issue with the schools using the students to tell their parents to vote yes! While this may be legal it is absolutely morally & ethically wrong. I have heard from several people that they weren't even planning on voting at all, but this stunt has enraged them so, they are now absolutely going to vote & they will be voting a resounding NO!
The thing that just kills me is that the few people like you that are in favor of the tax bond think your opinion is the ONLY one that matters & everyone against it is wrong!
See you at the polls honey. I think you're going to be quite disappointed!
Life long resident

Cape Girardeau, MO

#15 Mar 22, 2014
As a former student of SPS, I do think new schools are needed. But at what cost??? This tax increase is beyond my income, as I know it is for most Sikeston families. We haven't ever seen a DECREASE in taxes! Vehicles get older and depreciate, but taxes go up. The bottom fell out of the housing market, home values dropped drastically, our taxes didn't drop. The appraised value dropped, but taxes didn't! I, for one, am tired of being taxed to death!
More attention should have been paid to the upkeep of the schools!
Let's start saving money and start by building new schools 1 at a time! As a way to save money, let's cut the salaries of the BofE heads, cut the number of "figureheads"! Is it really necessary to have a principal for each grade at the high school?? I think not! The number of students have dropped, so there isn't a need to have all of these extra salaries! I bet there could be a savings of several hundred thousand dollars a year just by trimming the fat! As it is in all big businesses, too many chiefs and not enough Indians!
Agree

Saint Louis, MO

#16 Mar 23, 2014
Life long resident wrote:
As a former student of SPS, I do think new schools are needed. But at what cost??? This tax increase is beyond my income, as I know it is for most Sikeston families. We haven't ever seen a DECREASE in taxes! Vehicles get older and depreciate, but taxes go up. The bottom fell out of the housing market, home values dropped drastically, our taxes didn't drop. The appraised value dropped, but taxes didn't! I, for one, am tired of being taxed to death!
More attention should have been paid to the upkeep of the schools!
Let's start saving money and start by building new schools 1 at a time! As a way to save money, let's cut the salaries of the BofE heads, cut the number of "figureheads"! Is it really necessary to have a principal for each grade at the high school?? I think not! The number of students have dropped, so there isn't a need to have all of these extra salaries! I bet there could be a savings of several hundred thousand dollars a year just by trimming the fat! As it is in all big businesses, too many chiefs and not enough Indians!
Well said and so true!
guest

Poplar Bluff, MO

#17 Mar 23, 2014
I do agree 100% we do need new schools and I really like the ideas they have.But im worried how the bond issue will impact our community.
If they want to cut cost id start with the high priced football and basketball coaches.From what I understand thats all they do is coach and make really good money doing it.I mean education is the priority. Right?

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#18 Mar 23, 2014
Welcome to the Tea Party.

Progressive? Not on your life.
David Hackney

Madison, AL

#19 Mar 27, 2014
Research the Sikeston R-6 Bond Issue and you will find past school boards have ignored needed maintenance and/or the need for new buildings. These things have a way of catching up with everyone. Now the current school board wants to quadruple the debt retirement portion of the school tax levy. For retired people this will result in a significant tax increase for the rest of your lives on real and personal property.

It is amazing how past school boards found the money to renovate the fieldhouse and the football stadium, but somehow forgot about many other needed areas. Go figure?

Responsible folks in Sikeston should resoundingly vote no on this excessive tax grab by the current school board.

David Hackney
Coaches

Cape Girardeau, MO

#20 Mar 27, 2014
guest wrote:
I do agree 100% we do need new schools and I really like the ideas they have.But im worried how the bond issue will impact our community.
If they want to cut cost id start with the high priced football and basketball coaches.From what I understand thats all they do is coach and make really good money doing it.I mean education is the priority. Right?
Their salaries are merely a fraction of the 22+million, it's a non-issue. Plus, they do make quite a bit of money for the school w/ attendance and sales and such. Plus people may even move their kids into the district due to thriving sports programs.. so there's indirect tax revenue there.. Instead of talking about getting rid of 2 coaches who probably make up less than 150K a year combined (just using a random, reasonable figure, I don't know their salaries) why don't we look into where the basketball/football revenues are distributed? i'm sure those 2 teams bring in way more than these coach's salaries... But even then, the "profit" from basketball/football alone isn't a whole lot anyway when compared to 22million. Can't be that much.. Plus, aren't these guys also employed by the school as teachers? there's at least 80k (combined) there for teaching.

If you want to start cutting costs to make in impact on a 22mil construction project, look into yearly district expenses of over 500k or 1mil... but of course, every little bit helps.. but it would take quite a few "every little bits" to amount to 22mil...
guest

Saint Louis, MO

#21 Mar 27, 2014
Coaches wrote:
<quoted text>
Their salaries are merely a fraction of the 22+million, it's a non-issue. Plus, they do make quite a bit of money for the school w/ attendance and sales and such. Plus people may even move their kids into the district due to thriving sports programs.. so there's indirect tax revenue there.. Instead of talking about getting rid of 2 coaches who probably make up less than 150K a year combined (just using a random, reasonable figure, I don't know their salaries) why don't we look into where the basketball/football revenues are distributed? i'm sure those 2 teams bring in way more than these coach's salaries... But even then, the "profit" from basketball/football alone isn't a whole lot anyway when compared to 22million. Can't be that much.. Plus, aren't these guys also employed by the school as teachers? there's at least 80k (combined) there for teaching.
If you want to start cutting costs to make in impact on a 22mil construction project, look into yearly district expenses of over 500k or 1mil... but of course, every little bit helps.. but it would take quite a few "every little bits" to amount to 22mil...
See how smart you are its not 22 million its 32.6 million almost 33million my friend and for anyone who supports this nonsense please look at the testimony given by kindergarten teacher Susan Kimball about being bullied by the administration and other teacher because she is against common core. If an education systems does that to teachers they don't need my support on anything and will not get it period what kind of message is this sending to our kids. If they tried to block teacher from their right of free speech no wonder this country is in trouble my friend
Guest

High Ridge, MO

#22 Mar 27, 2014
David Hackney wrote:
Research the Sikeston R-6 Bond Issue and you will find past school boards have ignored needed maintenance and/or the need for new buildings. These things have a way of catching up with everyone. Now the current school board wants to quadruple the debt retirement portion of the school tax levy. For retired people this will result in a significant tax increase for the rest of your lives on real and personal property.
It is amazing how past school boards found the money to renovate the fieldhouse and the football stadium, but somehow forgot about many other needed areas. Go figure?
Responsible folks in Sikeston should resoundingly vote no on this excessive tax grab by the current school board.
David Hackney
Do you even live here? I don't think you do. You must have nothing better to do than post negatives on Facebook and Topix.

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