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Sidney

Cincinnati, OH

#1 Dec 17, 2011
Anybody heard anything about Logans Roadhouse steak opening in Sidney? I heard They was going to build where the PUB was located next to Speedway.
I have also heard that Tractor Supply was opening a store up behind Arbys where the pengals grocery and pharm-x store was located..

Anybody else??
gretchen

Loveland, OH

#2 Dec 18, 2011
Haven't heard anything, but would be nice. Sidney really doen't need another place to eat, but....a Logans Roadhouse that close to home would be great!!
Sidney

Cincinnati, OH

#3 Dec 19, 2011
I think Sidney does need some other places to eat. We have actual no steakhouse around here. The closest we have is Applebees and that place is always so crowded I don't ever end up going to eat there.
blah blah

Hamilton, OH

#4 Dec 19, 2011
LoL, Sidney will never get anything decent. (if they do, I will eat my words). I am betting that I am still going to have to Miller Lane, Troy, and Dayton to eat out. And I am betting I am still going to have to leave Shelby county to shop. Would be nice to keep those tax dollars around here, but for now, I am betting Logans isnt coming here, especially since Troy just got one. Plus, St. Marys just got a new TSC and there is one in Troy.
Seriously

Hamilton, OH

#5 Dec 20, 2011
Anyone hear why Quizno's closed?
Help Please

Hamilton, OH

#6 Dec 20, 2011
corporate chapter 7 bankrupitcy
Seriously wrote:
Anyone hear why Quizno's closed?
free

Cleveland, OH

#7 Dec 20, 2011
Why does Sidney always suck hind tit when it comes to development these days ? We're 35 miles from Dayton & Lima and that's where the business money goes. You ever notice that education dollars leave Shelby County and the kids follow ? Then they hire people from outside the area to fill positions. Doesn't make sense.
Locals say; well, we have Edison, Wright State celina, Rhodes in Lima, Northwestern-Lima, Sinclair, UD, Urbana, Clark St in Bellefontaine. But nothing in Shelby County.
Why not ? We don't drive to Piqua or Wapak for MacDonalds, Burger King, Taco Bell, Wal Mart, Lowes and others. They're not afraid of competition, yet Sidney cannot get past itself to compete for industry and education. That's really sad and typical of this community. Send our money out of the area and bolster someone else's economy.
Seriously

Hamilton, OH

#8 Dec 21, 2011
Help Please wrote:
corporate chapter 7 bankrupitcy
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Thanks for the info., and that stinks. Quiznos was the only sub place I liked in Sidney.
free

Cleveland, OH

#9 Dec 21, 2011
In an article not long ago, the commissioner said if you wanted to further your education, all you had to do is drive down the road to any university or college out of Shelby County. That means you take your tuition & room & board & other expenses out of the area to help build up another community. That's a financial drain on the local economy because you're sending money somewhere else, with no return on your investment. Even if it's a college loan or scholarship. Money in, money out !
We are funding other communities. Now, if local leaders want you to spend education dollars somewhere else, might as well buy goods and services somewhere else. Buy that vehicle in Miami or Auglaize, Allen, Montgomery County's and they can benefit from the sales taxes collected. Don't buy local !
free

Cleveland, OH

#10 Dec 21, 2011
And think of all the education dollars that would come TO Sidney-Shelby County if a campus development were built here. Just to built a campus would pump in millions of dollars, not to mention the industry and businesses that would follow as well as investment groups and investors.
All the apartments & rentals would be occupird and property investors would buy up inventory to fix to rent for incoming students. The real estate market would stabilize prices and values would start to rise.
Could call Sidney-Shelby County a "College Town".
DRIVER

Lehi, UT

#11 Dec 30, 2011
free- While i agree with you on the "college proposal" our problem is most of the population of sidney/shelby co keep voting for "the same old same old". Personally I have an associates in Agribusiness I went to UNOH and i also got associates in Logistics i went to Columbus State. Both Lima and Columbus have benefited from "college dollars" The problem we(as shelby county residents) have they are scared of change. This problem not only the proposal about a small 2 yr college its about other things. Such items as "more bold" ways of going after business/industry. it just seems like business developers/ town reps that go after "new business" don't want to be innovative in ways or systems in "drumming up" new business. I even somewhat blame the state of Ohio. we did get back Wendy's(corp) to Dublin,Oh BUT as far as "landing" new corp or companies Ohio ranks 47th out of 50 states. To me that sounds like business development specialist needs to be fired.
free

Cleveland, OH

#12 Dec 30, 2011
You're spot-on with everything you said. I'd vote for you in a heart beat. With Shelby County on UNOH's radar, approached by the right person might sway them to pull the trigger. They will be running out of development space between Cable & Eastown, soon. Dr Jarvis is a visionary.
The Fair Road tract is very appealing to most of those institutions and some businesses. But with dead-head politicans, this community will suffer and die a slow death on the vine. The article challenges young professionals to step up and take on the legacy, past real civic leaders took on. I think third and fourth community generations are taking their inherited wealth and running. Past generations invested in their community to make it stronger. You see their great efforts in legacy projects throughout Shelby County.
The article guy talked to investment groups who had investment dollars, but the groups passed on Shelby County because of the lack of local interest and competency. Three criteria: Want, Need and does the community Deserve. We didn't meet any of them. And they moved-on to another community that did.
DRIVER wrote:
free- While i agree with you on the "college proposal" our problem is most of the population of sidney/shelby co keep voting for "the same old same old". Personally I have an associates in Agribusiness I went to UNOH and i also got associates in Logistics i went to Columbus State. Both Lima and Columbus have benefited from "college dollars" The problem we(as shelby county residents) have they are scared of change. This problem not only the proposal about a small 2 yr college its about other things. Such items as "more bold" ways of going after business/industry. it just seems like business developers/ town reps that go after "new business" don't want to be innovative in ways or systems in "drumming up" new business. I even somewhat blame the state of Ohio. we did get back Wendy's(corp) to Dublin,Oh BUT as far as "landing" new corp or companies Ohio ranks 47th out of 50 states. To me that sounds like business development specialist needs to be fired.
driver

Lima, OH

#13 Dec 31, 2011
free wrote:
You're spot-on with everything you said. I'd vote for you in a heart beat. With Shelby County on UNOH's radar, approached by the right person might sway them to pull the trigger. They will be running out of development space between Cable & Eastown, soon. Dr Jarvis is a visionary.
The Fair Road tract is very appealing to most of those institutions and some businesses. But with dead-head politicans, this community will suffer and die a slow death on the vine. The article challenges young professionals to step up and take on the legacy, past real civic leaders took on. I think third and fourth community generations are taking their inherited wealth and running. Past generations invested in their community to make it stronger. You see their great efforts in legacy projects throughout Shelby County.
The article guy talked to investment groups who had investment dollars, but the groups passed on Shelby County because of the lack of local interest and competency. Three criteria: Want, Need and does the community Deserve. We didn't meet any of them. And they moved-on to another community that did.
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The sad part is I see "Potiential" in Shelby co and Sidney. When a business(or group of businesses) are looking to build or expand. we are blessed to have I-75 in our area. WHY DON'T WE HAVE MORE INDUSTRY IF WE GOT I-75. my point is this look at Troy, I even think Piqua's business development"crew" is more aggressive than Sidney's now I admit Piqua a little larger town but as far as "resources" we are similar. If I was mayor I'd sit down with the "development crew" and have a "come to Jesus talk"(nice way of saying butt ripping) with them. I'm the type of guy if we (as taxpayers) are paying you "x" dollars i want results. thats only fair to the tax payers.and its nothing personal I got against current city administration but they may at the most add 1 new business a year but if we want to not only "put Sidney on the map" but also get Shelby county out of unemployment "issues" 1 small business isn't gonna do it. This is a "top down" problem. I don't think the town administration really wants growth or they are "happy" where they are at. Which they have that right but all i have to say is don't ask for more tax money when residents leave(which if something doesn't "heavy" happen in the next 5 years i probably leave). Most people don't know this or remember this. about 6-7 years ago Hyundai(not Honda) was looking at Wapak(general area) to put up the factory. we can thank Ohio business development "crew" for sending them to Alabama. put aside for a second weither you like Hyundai cars/SUVs. What Honda has done for Shelby co.(employment,taxes, and jobs even at suppliers like NKP,ETC) my point is if Ohio/Wapak would of landed Hyundai that would of been "Heavy" to think of someone the size of Honda in the area. it help almost everyone in the area.
free

Cleveland, OH

#14 Dec 31, 2011
If you look at the make-up of local leadership and directors, most are not Sidney natives. WODC is led by a former Jackson Center mayor and Chamber Pres lives on the Minster side of Lake Loramie. The Sidney mayor is principal of Lehman, an academic. The rest are sit-on-their-hands local politicians and business owners. Why don't have the vision and drive past leadership possessed.

I've heard from people who lived and then left this area, And they said there is something wrong with the social network here. I asked what and they said the upper crust is snobbish and that trickled down to others who think they have an entitlement mentality.
That articla guy said every upper local contact he made was pessimistic and talked the concept down. Lamented about Eddy High as enough education around here. But they couldn't understand where the funding was coming from as a blockade. They couldn't get it in their head that a strategic plan is needed to sell the project. A project that could be sold to attract outside industries and businesses. The Chicken and the Egg agruement.
The YMCA concept was started by the former Chamber Pres. by asking a member to form a steering committee to plan and sell. This Pres. doesn't understand this. They all want to keep pilfering each other's pockets, in essence recycling local money. Eventually the local money runs out.
What would you think if the article guy had millions of investment dollars looking at the Shelby County education project ? Just the facility's building project would be over $ 150M ?
Too many Big Fish in a Small Pond ! The pond is getting stagnant.
Sidney

Cincinnati, OH

#15 Jan 13, 2012
free

Cleveland, OH

#16 Jan 13, 2012
Doomed to failure. Will be gone in five years !
This retail park is so poorly designed, it becomes a place where companies go to die. The Shell station is a bottleneck. The concrete barriers are an ugly example of landscape design ignorance as well as that whole north access area mess and the ground adjacent that egress.
The talk of Longhorn going into the old Pub spot is crazy. That's also a bottomless pit for business failures. Terrible egress, in and out. Reliable and Stolle's are in a the wrong spot for an industrial location / park. And detrimental to any type service industry, restaurant or convenience store or retail. How about relocating Stolle's and Reliable to a large, industrial park like RCI did on Kuther and Campbell ? They can reinvest those dusty old profits with a little prompting from local and state government into new facilities and stimulate the construction market which will help the local economy. Then apply for Stimulus Funds to razed those antiquated buildings and support reinvestment into those properties. Take out the Wagner structures too.

Planners need to rethink the grand scheme of things. Perkins , Smokin Jo's, Sonic (dumb place to build) all crammed together when there's an open corner where Ponderosa is. Plus you have a bad angled approach to the intersection.
The Kroger gas station location is a nightmare.
With funky egress out of there, right turns only ?
And look at the Burger King, MacDonalds and Casadore's access nightmare and you can see where an engineer really screwed up form & function.
Eh, so much to redesign, and little time to do it. Where's my eraser ?
Driver

Lima, OH

#17 May 1, 2012
free wrote:
Doomed to failure. Will be gone in five years !
This retail park is so poorly designed, it becomes a place where companies go to die. The Shell station is a bottleneck. The concrete barriers are an ugly example of landscape design ignorance as well as that whole north access area mess and the ground adjacent that egress.
The talk of Longhorn going into the old Pub spot is crazy. That's also a bottomless pit for business failures. Terrible egress, in and out. Reliable and Stolle's are in a the wrong spot for an industrial location / park. And detrimental to any type service industry, restaurant or convenience store or retail. How about relocating Stolle's and Reliable to a large, industrial park like RCI did on Kuther and Campbell ? They can reinvest those dusty old profits with a little prompting from local and state government into new facilities and stimulate the construction market which will help the local economy. Then apply for Stimulus Funds to razed those antiquated buildings and support reinvestment into those properties. Take out the Wagner structures too.
Planners need to rethink the grand scheme of things. Perkins , Smokin Jo's, Sonic (dumb place to build) all crammed together when there's an open corner where Ponderosa is. Plus you have a bad angled approach to the intersection.
The Kroger gas station location is a nightmare.
With funky egress out of there, right turns only ?
And look at the Burger King, MacDonalds and Casadore's access nightmare and you can see where an engineer really screwed up form & function.
Eh, so much to redesign, and little time to do it. Where's my eraser ?
There's 2 things you brought up that are concerns.#1. Traffic on Michigan ave. Now I understand from about the hospital out to Menards is "the main strip" of Sidney. but this concerns me on 2 fronts A.traffic(if you drive through 47 aka Michigan ave) during the day it can get hairy. B. Sidney leaders needs focus on more than Michigan Ave. I'd like to see some more businesses on the "north side" yes we got the new mexican diner, and Al's Pizza(in the old car dealership), of course the classic of Clancy's. But other than Marathon(up on the North end) they spent TONS of money putting in a turn lane all down 25-A FOR WHAT. This is the problem I see with Sidney. the leaders are nothing but "lip service" people. In Sidney Daily they said Jobs is #1. concern/mission for 2012(which i agree it should be) so they spend millions on both a. new water source WHEN THE TOWN BROKE b.They put in this turn lane/sidewalk on 25-A. now yes it created temporary jobs for the contractor(s) that completed the work but many of them were from outside of Shelby Co. So my point and I honestly mean this. I don't think Sidney City elected officals have a clue what's going on in the community. The town screams they are broke and they continue projects. The Town continues to "explore" and purchase land even though the town broke. it doesn't matter if your Democrat,Rep., vote Red,Blue or Green. I can tell you this fall i'm putting a sign in my car VOTE EVERY ONE OF THE SITTING MEMBERS OUT. I also feel the same way about state and Fed. I don't know how you operate free and other readers but when i'm struggling i "hunker down" quit going out to dinner, might not go to the movies, might stay in more. To the town of Sidney its a joke. Secondly, If Sidney is that serious about landing/getting major businesses to Sidney wouldn't they have about "all hands on deck" talking to major businesses about looking into building a new facilty or even taking over an existing structure.
Driver

Lima, OH

#18 May 1, 2012
did anyone know/question the price of Pondarosa resturant. that owner must want an arm/leg and first born. cause its sat empty for what 3-4 years?

Since: Feb 12

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#19 May 1, 2012
Too much crime and skanks in Sidney! I wouldn't eat the food anywhere in that town!
HellO

Sidney, OH

#20 May 2, 2012
....Shelby County education project ? I see your still preaching the same sermon !.....Geesh, give it a rest !.......
free wrote:
If you look at the make-up of local leadership and directors, most are not Sidney natives. WODC is led by a former Jackson Center mayor and Chamber Pres lives on the Minster side of Lake Loramie. The Sidney mayor is principal of Lehman, an academic. The rest are sit-on-their-hands local politicians and business owners. Why don't have the vision and drive past leadership possessed.
I've heard from people who lived and then left this area, And they said there is something wrong with the social network here. I asked what and they said the upper crust is snobbish and that trickled down to others who think they have an entitlement mentality.
That articla guy said every upper local contact he made was pessimistic and talked the concept down. Lamented about Eddy High as enough education around here. But they couldn't understand where the funding was coming from as a blockade. They couldn't get it in their head that a strategic plan is needed to sell the project. A project that could be sold to attract outside industries and businesses. The Chicken and the Egg agruement.
The YMCA concept was started by the former Chamber Pres. by asking a member to form a steering committee to plan and sell. This Pres. doesn't understand this. They all want to keep pilfering each other's pockets, in essence recycling local money. Eventually the local money runs out.
What would you think if the article guy had millions of investment dollars looking at the Shelby County education project ? Just the facility's building project would be over $ 150M ?
Too many Big Fish in a Small Pond ! The pond is getting stagnant.

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