Denying Sabbath Off May Hammer Dollar General

Aug 29, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Courthouse News Service

Dollar General may be liable for firing a manager who refused to work on the Sabbath because he is a Seventh-Day Adventist, a federal judge ruled.

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Buck Jackson

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First Question: Was he a member of Ellen White's cult before he took the job? It is well known in the retial world, Saturday is the busiest and management is expected to be close at hand - in-the-store.
Other wise the court will look at this for just what it is: another attmept by a $DAm to enrich tehmselves via whiining about their religion.
It has been noted by many hostorians that $DA's love money and their prophet/profits;
For instance, they 'disfellowedshipped' their Jewish converts inHitler Era Germany, reported them to the Gestapo and other 'Race Purification Enties, that were part the of the Third Reich's anti-Jew measure.

In return, they were invited to special 'autions' where Jewish property was sold.
Never get between a SDA'er and money!
the Bible means nothing to them.
If they'd bother to read the Bible, they would have known 2d Corinthians, CH. 5, wherein we become new people in Christ!
Yes, you can whine and shut me down, but I KNOW Adventists: I worked as a Detective (SBSO) in Loma Linda, CA,
I KNOW what you prople are: Lovers of ritual and rules, but not Jesus of Nazareth.
Ellen White's writing frequently attacked the Catholic Church - of which I'm no fan of, but at least, local Catholics Feed the hungry, welcome the stranger etc., all teaching of my Friend and Brother?
Adventist?
How many homeless shelters you folks run?
Come' on, you people didn't reach the second highest income demographic by being stupid did you can you name one. maybe two?

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Religions cannot always be accommodated in business. Suppose your religion says you should not touch pork products and you handle al kinds of groceries as a bag boy.if you are agin abortion, then do not work for an abortion medical facility.In case of govern meant employment, I think no one can be denied a particular religious observance.
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Sunday is the busiest day of the week, not Saturday. Dollar General will suffer if the individual is a sincere SDA Christian, and they refuse to give him time off. And it is possible to accommodate religious beliefs that are not outlandish, each case has to be examined on its own merit.

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First Question: Was he a member of Ellen White's cult before he took the job?
I used to work for 7-11 where we were open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. I was upfront with them about not working on the Sabbath and and never had to.
... management is expected to be close at hand - in-the-store.
Not true.

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Buck Jackson wrote:
For instance, they 'disfellowedshipped' their Jewish converts inHitler Era Germany, reported them to the Gestapo and other 'Race Purification Enties, that were part the of the Third Reich's anti-Jew measure.
Where's the proof?

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Buck Jackson wrote:
It has been noted by many hostorians that $DA's love money and their prophet/profits;
Name this "hostorians".
In return, they were invited to special 'autions' where Jewish property was sold.
Prove it.
Yes, you can whine and shut me down, but I KNOW Adventists: I worked as a Detective (SBSO) in Loma Linda, CA,
Highly doubtful that you anything beyond parking meter patrol, if that. A detective would know enough to have the evidence at hand and be able to back everything up.

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djconklin wrote:
<quoted text>Where's the proof?
http://www.everythingimportant.org/seventhday...

http://www.adventistreview.org/article/92/arc...

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Its interesting how SDA's will sue an employer at the drop of a "sabbath" infraction and siphon out some cash from the employers insurer but openly practice religious discrimination in the employment arena themselves by claiming that all prospective applicants "must be in good standing" with their SDA status to be considered for employment. Is this not the same thing that they are suing other employers for only in reverse and hypocritical at best?

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Here's the scoop from a 20-year H.R. employment law veteran. If a person can show evidence that a specific belief is an actual tenet of the religion which is faithfully practiced by the employee, the employer must accommodate the belief. This may not mean the employee would get EVERY Sabbath off (for instance in a 24-hr. healthcare situation), but s/he would have a "share" of Sabbaths off work, say on a rotating basis. However, in Dollar General's case, they will most likely be required to give the Sabbathkeeper every Sabbath (Fri. sundown to Sat. sundown) off, but they can then require him to work EVERY Sunday in exchange, if they choose to do so.

The other issue is that a SDA denominational organization (e.g.,conference offices, academies, and the like) is perfectly within their legal rights to hire ONLY SDA's, require that all employees be Adventist members in good standing, and that they must abide by the tenets of the SDA faith while they are employed.

Dem's the rules as I remember them, folks (I've been retired 9 years).
Buck Jackson

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Proof: Go to Wikipedia, also, do a FOIA, on interviews, done during the 'deNazification proceedings' following WWII. You Adventist disfellowshipped your Jewish Converts as you loved Hitler and Company so much. Even though they knew Hitler appointed a vicious-mean gang of open Homosexuals to run his Brown Shirt Army (the S.A.)
While sodomy is a supposed 'no - no' for Adventists, you still voted for Hitler's Party at the rate of 99.5%, as he didn't smoke, drink alcohol or eat meat... the foundation of your religion.

And as Adventist say, "What's a little dodomy amongst friends"?
You people even allow your children to attend BYU as Mormons don't drink alcohol or smoke in public, thus you consider them 2/3 as rightious as you are -even though the Mormons launder money for the Mafia, run and own all the brothels in the State of Utah, and about half the ones in Nevada.

For further proof, I've been to Conartist White's Mansion in NAPA Valley, and seen the tour groups coming through and 'in total awe' of Ellen's (the Conartists) wealth... no bear skins, wild honey and living in caves for that Prophet!

The conduct of the members of the various tour groups remeinded me of the Rajneesh, the people that tried to poison the town of Antelope - Oregon, so they could take over the .gov there.
Their cult leader loved Rolls-Royces, so they bought him only 122.
E.G.W.(the Conartist) loved high living, so she put her son and hubby on Adventist payrolls, and still collected money from royalties...
Nice Racket eh?
Pray that Judgement Day is far off, you there is time to study who and what your leader/Prophet/Profit was.
And speling?
I know you folks are anal retentive, so anything I can do to expose you to the truth, well, it blocks your bowels!
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Buck Jackson wrote:
Proof: Go to Wikipedia, also, do a FOIA, on interviews, done during the 'deNazification proceedings' following WWII. You Adventist disfellowshipped your Jewish Converts as you loved Hitler and Company so much. Even though they knew Hitler appointed a vicious-mean gang of open Homosexuals to run his Brown Shirt Army (the S.A.)
While sodomy is a supposed 'no - no' for Adventists, you still voted for Hitler's Party at the rate of 99.5%, as he didn't smoke, drink alcohol or eat meat... the foundation of your religion.
And as Adventist say, "What's a little dodomy amongst friends"?
You people even allow your children to attend BYU as Mormons don't drink alcohol or smoke in public, thus you consider them 2/3 as rightious as you are -even though the Mormons launder money for the Mafia, run and own all the brothels in the State of Utah, and about half the ones in Nevada.
For further proof, I've been to Conartist White's Mansion in NAPA Valley, and seen the tour groups coming through and 'in total awe' of Ellen's (the Conartists) wealth... no bear skins, wild honey and living in caves for that Prophet!
The conduct of the members of the various tour groups remeinded me of the Rajneesh, the people that tried to poison the town of Antelope - Oregon, so they could take over the .gov there.
Their cult leader loved Rolls-Royces, so they bought him only 122.
E.G.W.(the Conartist) loved high living, so she put her son and hubby on Adventist payrolls, and still collected money from royalties...
Nice Racket eh?
Pray that Judgement Day is far off, you there is time to study who and what your leader/Prophet/Profit was.
And speling?
I know you folks are anal retentive, so anything I can do to expose you to the truth, well, it blocks your bowels!
Your the only anal retentive on here who is blowing about money is you, you must be loaded. And EGW lived in modest means. All the "fixing" up you saw was after she passed away. Go count your money, you seem to be in love with it.
Buck Jackson

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All the fixing up?
Horse snot, she lived like a queen.
Now you are all saying why is old 'Buc'k picking on us?
Don't he know we follow rules and rituals like slaves?
Well, he is an answer:
Following 9-11, which any person with normal facilities can see was a hoax, I met with your church authorities and showed the the facts and truth.
Of course they were excited that I'd done that, as they knew me to be a compentent investigator, saving their Health Systems and Church, litterly millions $ in / from bogus lawsuits.
But while they agreed it was all a hoax, and that America's anger would lead to the death of thousands (actually closer to a million as of 9-3-13) after they placed a call to Silver Springs, MD, they backed off saying "If we oppose our .gov, they'll stop funding Jerry Pettis VA Hospital here in Loma Linda, and all government health systems will stop paying us for our services... we'll lose thousands of well paying jobs ... we just can't afford that!
See why I hold you Adventists in contempt?
Don't bother to anser ... till you've done some serious prayers and meditations.
Thanks for your times
P.S. Having known the truth, yet going along with the .gov hoax... guess you folks have blood on your hands?

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DBD1 wrote:
djconklin wrote:
<quoted text>Where's the proof?
http://www.everythingimportant.org/seventhday...
His website is so lonely this is the only one will go there!

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Walt50 wrote:
Its interesting how SDA's will sue an employer at the drop of a "sabbath" infraction and siphon out some cash from the employers insurer
Where's the proof? If you violate the law of the land you are penalized by the COURT. Once the employer has broken the law, the employee has the right to take then to court and IT sets the penalty.

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Walt50 wrote:
Its interesting how SDA's will sue an employer at the drop of a "sabbath" infraction and siphon out some cash from the employers insurer but openly practice religious discrimination in the employment arena themselves by claiming that all prospective applicants "must be in good standing" with their SDA status to be considered for employment. Is this not the same thing that they are suing other employers for only in reverse and hypocritical at best?
Nope; just like a catholic organization can insist that all its workers be Catholics in good-standing with the church. And the law says that's fine.

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Buck Jackson wrote:
All the fixing up?
Horse snot, she lived like a queen.
Over $20k in debt when she died. Yeah, she lived "like a queen." That's lie #3, out of 333, on my list.

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Buck Jackson wrote:
Proof: Go to Wikipedia, also, do a FOIA, on interviews, done during the 'deNazification proceedings' following WWII. You Adventist disfellowshipped your Jewish Converts as you loved Hitler and Company so much. Even though they knew Hitler appointed a vicious-mean gang of open Homosexuals to run his Brown Shirt Army (the S.A.)
While sodomy is a supposed 'no - no' for Adventists,
The latter was not known at the time.

There's only the record of ONE Jew being disfellowshipped as they feared that the Nazi's would shut down the WHOLE church.

The German church did was they wanted, and did NOT get the orders for their actions from the WHOLE church. Of course, the critics don't dare tell you the whole truth--that would ruin their agenda.

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GrammyJoanne wrote:
Here's the scoop from a 20-year H.R. employment law veteran. If a person can show evidence that a specific belief is an actual tenet of the religion which is faithfully practiced by the employee, the employer must accommodate the belief. This may not mean the employee would get EVERY Sabbath off (for instance in a 24-hr. healthcare situation), but s/he would have a "share" of Sabbaths off work, say on a rotating basis. However, in Dollar General's case, they will most likely be required to give the Sabbathkeeper every Sabbath (Fri. sundown to Sat. sundown) off, but they can then require him to work EVERY Sunday in exchange, if they choose to do so.
The other issue is that a SDA denominational organization (e.g.,conference offices, academies, and the like) is perfectly within their legal rights to hire ONLY SDA's, require that all employees be Adventist members in good standing, and that they must abide by the tenets of the SDA faith while they are employed.
Dem's the rules as I remember them, folks (I've been retired 9 years).
You are correct. Note the number of people who said that you were clueless--projecting their own selves.

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