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Suspect: Carol Thomas Kidnapping Was Over Rock Salt Drug Deal

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Two men and one woman were charged Friday in the kidnapping of Carol Thomas and one of the suspects told police it was because Thomas sold them rock salt disguised as drugs.

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TLee

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Nov 6, 2009
 
Wow. Well we all have answers now. Poor Carol. How awful.
Steve

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Nov 6, 2009
 
All over $500
TLee

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Nov 6, 2009
 
Exactly! Stupid.
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Nov 6, 2009
 
I hope they rot, and all those who helped them rot too. I wonder who they called in Missouri City? I know its off the topic of Carol, but I know people there, and I want to see them go down right along with these 3 scum.
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You know these mo-effers were high out of there minds...leaving not one but TWO cell phones at the scene of the kidnapping? Now THAT is your brain on drugs!
sad in ex spr

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Nov 6, 2009
 
Missouri City is a bad place. When the highway used to run through there you could smell the meth cooking when the wind was still. I doubt it has gotten any better.
I hate meth heads

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Nov 6, 2009
 
Fry those dope heads before they get a chance to ruin someone else's life.
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I have been watching this very carefully and it has made me very sad. Once the moral code of this killer sunk so low as to equate $500 for a human life he became a threat to society. To a reasonable person life is of course intrinsic and beyond value. Murder of this young lady over a deal for meth gone badly, and a little embarrassment to Mr. Zimmerman is horrible. I am sure many readers have had over five hundred dollars in bad transactions with family and friends, loans to people gone bad, a reasonable person does not think of murder. Jennifer incorrectly thought if she was not at the scene she would be safe from responsibility for what happened. She has earned her second degree murder charge by her actions. Mr. Zimmerman had every opportunity to stop this from happening and being on parole for a class B felony had the most to loss. He knew and had watched this young lady grow up. I can’t imagine he felt that ripped off over five hundred dollars to take her life but let it happen anyway, he has earned his second degree murder charge. It is a special place we reserve for men like Mr. Reardon that has so little regard for life that he would take it so recklessly. I implore the prosecutor of Ray County to fight for the death penalty for this soulless killer. For taking a life for having inconvenienced or delayed his “recreational” drug use/habit he needs to be removed from society. Love your wife, love your children. Don’t let this awful drug win. I have never seen a worse substance than meth, it changes people.
Rheanna

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Nov 7, 2009
 
As Carol's younger sister I couldn't explain how this makes me feel. I'm 15 years old and I should not have to go through this. I'm hearing "My heart goes out to Carol's family" or "I'm sorry for Carol's family. But no one has any idea how this is actually affecting us. How we are falling apart. No one understands. She didn't deserve this. No one does. Her life was young and yes she did get involved with some bad people. But she didnt deserve it. No one deserves it.
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Nov 7, 2009
 
You would never know what its like. How cold she was lying on the gurney. You wouldn't understand. I had to face that.
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Rheanna wrote:
As Carol's younger sister I couldn't explain how this makes me feel. I'm 15 years old and I should not have to go through this. I'm hearing "My heart goes out to Carol's family" or "I'm sorry for Carol's family. But no one has any idea how this is actually affecting us. How we are falling apart. No one understands. She didn't deserve this. No one does. Her life was young and yes she did get involved with some bad people. But she didnt deserve it. No one deserves it.
Rheanna.... What you can do is make your big sister proud. Make it your personal mission to honour her memory by being what your sister wanted you to be and beyond!! No she did not deserve this.. but YOU have the power now to overcome this and come out on top in your sisters memory. Try and be strong through this difficult time and make Rheanna proud !!! Go girl i kno you can do it
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Nov 7, 2009
 
Rheanna wrote:
As Carol's younger sister I couldn't explain how this makes me feel. I'm 15 years old and I should not have to go through this. I'm hearing "My heart goes out to Carol's family" or "I'm sorry for Carol's family. But no one has any idea how this is actually affecting us. How we are falling apart. No one understands. She didn't deserve this. No one does. Her life was young and yes she did get involved with some bad people. But she didnt deserve it. No one deserves it.
I'm sorry but when you play the game with drug dealers, you get what you deserve. Everyone knows that one of the killers was known to always carry a gun on him and everyone knows they are well known drug dealers for Excelsior. Your sister played with fire and she got burnt. That's what happens when you're a low life criminal. I don't care how nice of a person she might have been, she was obviously stupid enough to mess with the wrong crowd. And if your family is "falling apart", then where were all of you to try to do an intervention and get her out of the game?
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I'm sorry but when you play the game with drug dealers, you get what you deserve. Everyone knows that one of the killers was known to always carry a gun on him and everyone knows they are well known drug dealers for Excelsior. Your sister played with fire and she got burnt. That's what happens when you're a low life criminal. I don't care how nice of a person she might have been, she was obviously stupid enough to mess with the wrong crowd. And if your family is "falling apart", then where were all of you to try to do an intervention and get her out of the game?
Anon seriously this girl is 15 years old. Don't be stupid and say things like that. When someone chooses to do drugs they have to overcome that on their own and regardless of what your family says or your younger sister you don't listen until you are ready to change your life. Really how dare you attack her like that. Rheanna, from some of the posts I read your sister loved you and worried about you a lot. I agree with the person that posted "make her proud". Make sure not to make the same mistakes that she made and live every moment for her. She is watching over you from heaven and is in a much better place now. She didn't deserve this and those people that did this to her are scum. I believe that everything happens for a reason. I have always been told that good things always come out of crisis. Sometimes it may take years for us to know what that positive thing is, but eventually you see something positive that came from the situation. Even if it is something like you making the right choices in life rather than bad ones because of this event. Stay strong and remember to make Carol proud. Hang in there sweetie.
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Nov 8, 2009
 
DRUGS KILL ! They kill the people that sell them and they kill the people that take them. Listen up Rheanna. Do you think your sister would have sold if she knew she would die for it? You know the answer. Do not get involved with drugs or people that sell them. Ever.
ExcelsiorSucks

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Nov 8, 2009
 
Rheanna wrote:
As Carol's younger sister I couldn't explain how this makes me feel. I'm 15 years old and I should not have to go through this. I'm hearing "My heart goes out to Carol's family" or "I'm sorry for Carol's family. But no one has any idea how this is actually affecting us. How we are falling apart. No one understands. She didn't deserve this. No one does. Her life was young and yes she did get involved with some bad people. But she didnt deserve it. No one deserves it.
Then lets do this. More than anything I want to clean this town up. I've kind of looked at this horrible event as a chance to make people realize how much of a problem Excelsior Springs actually has. I know that you know that most of your sisters friends were meth heads. These people are the exact people that got your sister killed. We don't want these people here. I know a trustworthy police officer around here, and I've also been talking to an ATF friend and he's willing to hook me up with a favor. e-mail me at ableart2000@hotmail.com if you would like to maybe be apart of what is about to happen. I'm sure the police could really use your help identifying the people around here.
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Nov 8, 2009
 
Excelsior was bad back when I was a kid, and from the sounds of it, has progressively deteriorated since. I knew Erik growing up, and into adulthood; I branched away from him 7 years ago, as I chose a different path for myself. I can say that he was spiraling out of control even back then, so I cannot even begin to imagine his condition in present time. It saddens me greatly to think that these people never wanted a better life for themselves, even after becoming parents. I feel for the children of ALL individuals involved, as they are sure to be effected in one way or another. Regardless of what side you are looking in from, this has been a horrible tragedy.
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Nov 8, 2009
 
i know a 21 yr old here in my hometown was killed over owing a drug dealer 30 dollars ..... they came down and shot him in his apt ..... i know the game on the streets ....#1 dont screw over a dealer his money ......# 2 dont sell fake sh..t to a buyer ....# 3 $ 500 worth of salt rock .... i know that would piss someone off , getting ripped off ......#4 dealing drugs is all about the dollar .#5 she was strret smart , ok , than she was afraid after that of them , but called for them to pick her up ...... why didnt she just stay at that ladys house ...? she was street smart , so even a burnt out meth head knows not to burn the dealer .... cause they come a hunting for you . in fact you dont burn nobody who is dealing with you with drugs ..... i know if i went and sold bad sh..t , they would come looking for me , thats the life of the streets . she feared them , that means she knew she did them wrong and they are coming for her .
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lexmo wrote:
i know a 21 yr old here in my hometown was killed over owing a drug dealer 30 dollars ..... they came down and shot him in his apt ..... i know the game on the streets ....#1 dont screw over a dealer his money ......# 2 dont sell fake sh..t to a buyer ....# 3 $ 500 worth of salt rock .... i know that would **** someone off , getting ripped off ......#4 dealing drugs is all about the dollar .#5 she was strret smart , ok , than she was afraid after that of them , but called for them to pick her up ...... why didnt. she just stay at that ladys house ...? she was street smart , so even a burnt out meth head knows not to burn the dealer .... cause they come a hunting for you . in fact you dont burn nobody who is dealing with you with drugs ..... i know if i went and sold bad sh..t , they would come looking for me , thats the life of the streets . she feared them , that means she knew she did them wrong and they are coming for her .
And if she got what she deserved then so be it. For that reason no one should die for money. No one shoiuld die because someone chooses who gets to die. They are not God. They are low lives who deserve no chance at life. As contridicting as it is, i believe that. I have never thought this would ever happen to us. We have choices in life. And they took theirs. Along with her's. Yes I understand that had a problem with drugs. But you have to know we tried to help her. She would get out of rehab and then she would relapse. How could someone take the life of someone else over money? Yet we are at fault, and she is at fault. Your life is as meaningless as theirs if you think it's her fault.
HELP THEM

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Nov 8, 2009
 
My son was taking the meth road.I found several meth pipes in his car.I was disturbed because I had seen what meth does to people.After much thought I went to our local sheriff.He said they had ways to work with this type of problem.His close friends all ended up in jail,and a light must have came on in his head because I see no more evidence that hes using again.It may seem extreme but you cant give up on these people,especially good kids gone bad.So we can make a difference by turning these names over to you local sheriffs department and sendig a clear message to these people meth or death.Life is to good to throw away over this drug.
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Nov 8, 2009
 
i didnt say it was her fault ...i was saying , the street and drug life will destroy a person .... when someone is dealing drugs , they dont care about the buyer , but if you sell or rip off a dealer , there will be hell to pay ...they dont care about a human life ...all they care about is their drugs and the money . meth is a devil drug , read up on that bad boy ..... meth will turn a good person into someone you never knew ..... i read up on it when my child got strung out on it ..... i had to go on a long road to get to the hill and than the hill was the worst to climb....i prayed to god alway to save him .... but now i wonder , when a girl get strubng out doing meth or crack , is it harder on them to overcome it ? a friend of mine started shooting meth when he was 35 and now he 49 and his brain is fried , he cant think real clearly , and dont see the reality of life ..... he like a little brain damaged from the effects of it on his brain . it does kill brain cells with heavy useage .
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