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Bronx Kid

United States

#1 Oct 31, 2008
Ricardo Sanchez: Please take the blinders off Ricardo.
huh

Queens Village, NY

#2 Oct 31, 2008
"They spend countless hours away from their loved ones, working in extreme elements to ensure that riders' daily commutes are seamless. They work in extreme cold, extreme heat and under rules that make accidents a cause for discipline"

What UNION monkey fed you that line? That is called working and in this case, blue collar working. If you don't like this type of work and find it stressful leaving your loved ones for the day or working in extreme heat or cold, then get a new job.

90% of retired workers from the LIRR apply for disability, 98% of those are approved. I don't care if you are working with molten lava every day, there is NO way all of these are legit. For those that are FINE, however, there is NO WAY the numbers can be that high without an element of FRAUD involved.

So 'sells crazy somewhere else', us non-union people with common sense aren't buying any
liner

Hicksville, NY

#3 Oct 31, 2008
"The employees of the Long Island Rail Road work under conditions that most people cannot fathom. They spend countless hours away from their loved ones, working in extreme elements to ensure that riders' daily commutes are seamless. They work in extreme cold, extreme heat and under rules that make accidents a cause for discipline. This lifelong devotion to their work causes physical disabilities.":

Mr Sanchez, seems to me that what you describe as a day in the life of an LIRR worker pretty much describes what the LIRR riders endure daily. Will 90% of THEM get a disability pension?
Fergus

Waccabuc, NY

#4 Oct 31, 2008
Hey Lucy's husband.

I don't agree w/you. The jist of all this is to get rid of the cheaters, not the legitimate claimants. No one seems to be beating up the rank and file

Anyone who is truly disabled to be angry at those malingerers. Yes case, by case study, and surely you'll find quite a few cheaters
Realist

New York, NY

#5 Oct 31, 2008
Mr. Sanchez, your letter is hilarious! "Countless hours away from loved ones"!?!?! The rest of us call that a job.

You are a union monkey who obviously expects the corruption gravy train to run forever (or at least until you get yours!).
Outrage

New York, NY

#6 Oct 31, 2008
What a joke. Does Mr. Sanchez have any idea what it is to be a lumber jack, or fisherman? What an idiotic letter to write. What a bum.
Harry O

AOL

#7 Oct 31, 2008
And this guy Sanchez is the general chairman of The International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers? If I were a member I'd vote him out pronto.
Proud Railroader

Maitland, FL

#8 Oct 31, 2008
If Mr. Marino doesn't think our healh care system needs overhaul perhaps he missed the news article few months ago about an 11 y.o.boy from the Bronx who died because he couldn't get a dentist to pull a bad tooth. It seems he suffered while our compasionate conservitive government studied his paper work. The infection went to his brain. It shoul be obvious, even to Republicans, that we ought to be ashamed of ourselves for letting this tragedy to occur.
Proud Railroader

Maitland, FL

#9 Oct 31, 2008
The LIRR actually pays U.S. saving bonds to employees who choose not to file injury claims, they also try to intimidate employees who do get injured. Thats why the job appears safer then it did 20 years ago.
Do it to IT

White Plains, NY

#10 Oct 31, 2008
Lirr employees are a bunch of monkeys.
Proud Railroader

Maitland, FL

#11 Oct 31, 2008
That was really intelligent Mount Sinai, got any more.... I think you are jealous.
Proud Railroader

Maitland, FL

#12 Oct 31, 2008
liner wrote:
"The employees of the Long Island Rail Road work under conditions that most people cannot fathom. They spend countless hours away from their loved ones, working in extreme elements to ensure that riders' daily commutes are seamless. They work in extreme cold, extreme heat and under rules that make accidents a cause for discipline. This lifelong devotion to their work causes physical disabilities.":
Mr Sanchez, seems to me that what you describe as a day in the life of an LIRR worker pretty much describes what the LIRR riders endure daily. Will 90% of THEM get a disability pension?
You are wrong! I guarantee that Mr. Cuomo will conclude there was no fraud committed by anyone applying for a disability from the LIRR. The criterion to obtain an occupational disability is such, that it is relatively easy to obtain one. This system is in a private trust created to keep the government for attaining access to it. We raioroaders contribute 12.5% of our income for our entire career to the system. There are 600,000 of us and the RR retirement system quite healthy. The politicians who refer to it as "ripping of the public" are merely pandering to the public in order to get there ire up. The disability is easily granted to us because the federal government "borrowed" several billion dollars from us and never paid it back. That was when the RR board members decided to grant disabilities to any member who met the low standards necessary to get one. You need to wake up and read between the lines. Nobody will just give money away. There is always a reason. Even if it's not good enough for you.
Fergus

Melville, NY

#13 Oct 31, 2008
Proud Railroader wrote:
<quoted text>You are wrong! I guarantee that Mr. Cuomo will conclude there was no fraud committed by anyone applying for a disability from the LIRR. The criterion to obtain an occupational disability is such, that it is relatively easy to obtain one. This system is in a private trust created to keep the government for attaining access to it. We raioroaders contribute 12.5% of our income for our entire career to the system. There are 600,000 of us and the RR retirement system quite healthy. The politicians who refer to it as "ripping of the public" are merely pandering to the public in order to get there ire up. The disability is easily granted to us because the federal government "borrowed" several billion dollars from us and never paid it back. That was when the RR board members decided to grant disabilities to any member who met the low standards necessary to get one. You need to wake up and read between the lines. Nobody will just give money away. There is always a reason. Even if it's not good enough for you.
"no fraud committed by anyone applying for a disability from the LIRR."

That's a pretty broad statement. So they are no cheaters in the LIRR?

I've got oceanfront property in Colorado to sell you.
"
Proud Railroader

Maitland, FL

#15 Nov 1, 2008
Fergus wrote:
<quoted text>
"no fraud committed by anyone applying for a disability from the LIRR."
That's a pretty broad statement. So they are no cheaters in the LIRR?
I've got oceanfront property in Colorado to sell you.
"
Fraud..... Like appointing an attorney general who happens to be the son of a very influencial ex-govenor. I would like to see the resume and learn about the dicision making that got Mr. Cuomo his job. The same goes for Ms. Williams, the president of the LIRR. Those position are suspose to go to the people most qualified not those most connected. Ms. Williams worked for Macy's. What the heck does she know about RR's. Fraud is then committed when a trusted politician appoints a crony and professes to be hiring someone most qualified for the job.
Fergus

Waccabuc, NY

#16 Nov 3, 2008
Proud Railroader wrote:
<quoted text>Fraud..... Like appointing an attorney general who happens to be the **** very influencial ex-govenor. I would like to see the resume and learn about the dicision making that got Mr. Cuomo his job. The same goes for Ms. Williams, the president of the LIRR. Those position are suspose to go to the people most qualified not those most connected. Ms. Williams worked for Macy's. What the heck does she know about RR's. Fraud is then committed when a trusted politician appoints a crony and professes to be hiring someone most qualified for the job.
Can't argue your points re:
politico's (I agree w/you)

But do you really think that there are NO fraudulent claims made by some LIRR claimants.

Come on????? No fraudulant claims what so ever?

You have to admit that that is pretty near impossible.

Admit that there might be some.

A better argument would be for you to state that you don't feel that fraudulent claims aren't as pervasive as these articles would have you believe.

Stay away from absolutes(the "nevers"and "always"), it won't help your argument.
Fergus

Waccabuc, NY

#17 Nov 3, 2008
"that you don't feel that fraudulent claims aren't as pervasive"

should be
"that you feel that fraudulent claims aren't as pervasive"
Loco motive

White Plains, NY

#18 Nov 3, 2008
Proud Railroader wrote:
<quoted text>Fraud..... Like appointing an attorney general who happens to be the **** very influencial ex-govenor. I would like to see the resume and learn about the dicision making that got Mr. Cuomo his job. The same goes for Ms. Williams, the president of the LIRR. Those position are suspose to go to the people most qualified not those most connected. Ms. Williams worked for Macy's. What the heck does she know about RR's. Fraud is then committed when a trusted politician appoints a crony and professes to be hiring someone most qualified for the job.
Sounds like you are worried about losing your "disabiity" pension.
Proud Railroader

Maitland, FL

#19 Nov 4, 2008
Fergus wrote:
"that you don't feel that fraudulent claims aren't as pervasive"
should be
"that you feel that fraudulent claims aren't as pervasive"
You sir are the closest one to understanding what I said. Allow me to repeat myself. I said that " I guarantee that Mr. Cuomo will conclude that there was no fraud". He wont say that but he will not charge any fraud for medical claims. I don't know if there was any fraud. I doubt it because it was undecessary. I suspose someone who is really dumb might make unnecessary claims. You hit the nail on the head when you said it might not be as prevelent as first thought.Mr. Cuomo would be embarrassed to publicly conclude one or two or five false claims have been made against the RR retirement.He will need explain the expenses the taxpayer made for that investigation. I expect that the issue will be turned over to a medical panel and when nobody cares anymore the "fraud" issue will fade away.
Proud Railroader

Maitland, FL

#20 Nov 4, 2008
Loco motive wrote:
<quoted text>
Sounds like you are worried about losing your "disabiity" pension.
I happen to have a full and permanent. I'm not being investigated.If you read the five page report Mr. Cuomo and the RR Board agreed on, you will see the investigation excludes disabilities that have been deemed by the Social Security Administration to be full and permanent. Thank you for your concern.
Proud Railroader

Maitland, FL

#21 Nov 4, 2008
Fergus wrote:
"that you don't feel that fraudulent claims aren't as pervasive"
should be
"that you feel that fraudulent claims aren't as pervasive"
Thank you Fergus....sometimes I don't write so good.

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