created by: John Masters | Dec 29, 2012

Louisville, KY

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Worst State, Adjacent To Kentucky?

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John Masters

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Dec 29, 2012
 
Since all r guilty of genocide of their aboriginal indigenous peoples, I guess they are all equal in their barbarity in that regards... 4 me, the worst state of the 7 states adjacent to Kentucky... it's between Missouri, the Overthrow me State, since there's nothing going on over there, and then there's Tennessee... the State that slayed Martin Luther King, the greatest human being who ever lived.
rebelgray

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Dec 29, 2012
 
Definable it's Illinois. The state that denies your second amendment rights.
John Masters

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Dec 30, 2012
 
F-in Illinois... they also trying to take our Lincoln...

Denying the 2nd amendment aint no good.

Indiana has an STD outbreak, and lots of pregnant teenagers... it's like the worst place for women to live. There's no planned parenthood, or contraception clinics... b/c of prudish ignorant abstinence parents, now women catching STDs, which leads to cancer in infertility... also their child mortality rate's bad... plus Indiana... it just feels like "Eerie Indiana" to me... just driving thru that shythole of a state gives me the willies. So more reasons to hate them. Also, the "Land of Indians"... yet not one single Indian survived their Holocaust. At least we got some Indians in our legislature.#KentuckyRox!
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Dec 30, 2012
 

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John Masters

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Dec 30, 2012
 
4 the same reason, Revelations... as rebelgray?
rebelgray

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#7
Dec 30, 2012
 
Nope two different people.
Chief Butterfly

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#8
Dec 30, 2012
 
I know... the Rev didnt say WHY he picked Illinois and u Reb, did, so I was asking Rev, if his reasons for not liking Illinois, was the same as urs, Reb.
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#9
Dec 31, 2012
 
yeah, ridiculous. So many people at the gunshow bought assault rifles, literally like 1 out of 8 people had one....we arent gonna give em up that ez.
Chief Butterfly

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#10
Dec 31, 2012
 
The Gun Industry has done very well under Obama.. probably more guns have been sold under his regime than all others. There's plenty of guns for more Connecticut's.
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#11
Dec 31, 2012
 
In all honesty crazy people are going to kill with or without guns. Look at crime rates in gun free cities compared to others. More guns=less crime.
John Masters

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Dec 31, 2012
 
I dont know if that's always true... US has more gun deaths than England and Australia, and it seems to go against common sense, to be putting guns INTO the schools, or the INTO the airplanes, you'd think being gunfree would be the way to go... and if we're into arming teachers in schools, putting police officers in schools, even that didn't work in Columbine and Virginia Tech, having metal detectors, etc, how come we don't have money for good books, good education, good schools, and good teachers? I would rather the school system to be gunfree. Yes, live free or die. Give me liberty or give me death. Outta my cold dead hands. 2nd Amendment is King. It stops an oppressive government. The only thing that stops a bad guy w/ a gun is a good guy w/ a gun, that's true. But even when NRA dude said that, he looked like he wanted to shoot that Code Pink lady...

So I agree w/ the 2nd Amendment, but somebody said something... these gun deaths... these school shootings... have got to stop. I'm not sure what will stop them, but they need to be stopped. Whatever works. Do that. While guns and violence on Django Unchained can be entertaining to white suburbia, poor trailer whites can look at the images on the screen as fulfilling a prophesy, or to dream of being like them... shyt's different for those who are alienated, and those who are not. I am not for censorship of speech, nor against the 2nd amendment. I do wonder about intentionally PUTTING guns INTO the schools, when there was no guns there to begin with, and I've also seen teachers flip out on students... if there's a gun nearby, whose to say ole Teach wont be doin some shootin of her own, and even if she didnt want that, what if, the disgruntled kids grabbed ahold of those guns? Education is a good solve all solution. Teach folks how to use guns. Teach folks how to get along. Teach folks to not be oppressive bullies. There's a lot to b taught actually, and spending money on more bullets and guns and suggesting more violence is the way to go is INSANE.

Marilyn Manson, when asked what he would have said to the kids at Columbine, said that he wouldn't have said anything. Instead, Marilyn Manson said that he would have listened, "since that's what nobody did." I think listening to our children would be a good start.

What would possess Adam Lanza to do what he did?

What possessed Michael Carneal when he did the same thing in Paducah, Kentucky many years ago?

Why are these children resorting to insane violent reactions? Where's this hostility and pain and hurt and anger coming from? When a person commits suicide, they are basically saying there's no hope for them, and so goodbye world. But why did they feel like there was no hope for them? Were they in a hopeless situation? If so... why? Does it take a village to raise a child? Do parents "own" their own children? If a parent's child goes ballistic on everybody else's children, doesn't that mean, that whatever that parent did wrong, everybody else in society paid for? We don't own our children. They are "catch and release"... they are released out into the wild. A dog or a cat u keep in ur house forever. At 18, the little human is pushed out, sink or swim, do or die. That's how it should be. At 18, they should be ready, but many parents aren't looking at the longterm. Instead, working on making them submissive and subordinate, to be obedient to authority, no matter who or what "authority" is in charge. We need to be more discerning. We need to question authority. We need to become Americans again. There's plenty of problems in the Bluegrass... yeah, we got guns and violence and drugs and obesity and pollution and too many prisons, filled will too many sadistic psychopath jailers. There's a litany of issues Kentucky needs to solve... including being the #1 insane state in teh #1 insane country. There's more mental health issues in Kentucky than all states in US, and US leads in industrialized nations. KY's #1 of #1 of nutjobbery
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Dec 31, 2012
 
Check the facts about total crime in England and Australia. There are more rapes robberies and murders than America. Yes less gun crime. More violent crimes with knives and other weapons. The people no longer have a way to defend them selves against the evil. Don't believe the media they only tell us half the facts. We have to find the rest of the truth.
John Masters

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Dec 31, 2012
 
I guess Im saying, Im not going to hate Obama's gun bill no matter what comes out, which I expect much of the GOP and Tea Party to do. Ban assault rifles? IDK... Something needs to be done. But more assault rifles in the classrooms? Putting oozies into the children's hands? Iz that wat u r in favor of?
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Dec 31, 2012
 
No one said put assault rifles or Uzis in the classroom. Maybe a sporting rifle in the hands of a uniform cop. We might teach about assault weapons in the classroom. Assault is an action not a weapon. An AR-15 is a sporting rifle used in many shooting competitions. AR stands for Armolite the manufacture. As far as kids with Uzis mine are great shots with their pistols. Which as a responsible gun owner I do not allow them access unless we go to the range. They are locked up except the one on my hip. Kids need to learn gun safety and rules at an early age.
John Masters

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Dec 31, 2012
 
So why dont u let ur kids have a gun on their hip? What prevents them, from you, if you go insane?

I'll double down, and do u one more. U being a "RebelGray" man, you understand the problem w/ tyranny, of having a centralized power, controlling the whole nation, outta Washington DC. Well that's modern nation-state theory. That's how governments work. Frankfort controls all that's inside the borders of Kentucky. Beshear has a monopoly of violence in Kentucky... Feds can try to come in and do some thangs on their own, but most of the time, the Feds get the permission of the locals, whose all too happy to work w/ some professionals...

SO, good man w/ a gun is the only thing to stop a bad man w/ a gun... says who? Who gets to determine whose the bad guy, and whose the good guy? When the State has all the power, aka the Cop in the Skool, whose to stop his tyranny? Whose to check that human being, assuming power will go to his head, as it does w/ anybody that has power, and become a sadistic manipulative psychopath? And didn't Ghandi say an eye for an eye makes the world blind? When does this cycle of violence stops? Or is that just the way the world works?

All I am saying, and I think it's a direct reaction to how 100% certain of guns that you teabaggers are, to always saying guns are the answer... guns are necessary, guns are what stops tyranny, but guns in the school? I dont own a gun. I know lots of folks who dont. Lots of folks can get along just fine in society w/o AR15s, or Mossbergs, or Sniper rifles, or grenade launchers, or nuclear weapons, or ... etc. The State already pays for police, so having them patrol isn't a bad idea, or sitting on a watch tower, like it's a prison, which it is... "Shut up kid! Sit down kid! You have no rights! What do you think this is? AmeriKKKa?!?" So putting police in the school does prepare #456345345 for 1984, and to respect Big Brother... there's 1 man in the school w/ a gun, aka THE GOVERNMENT, and that 1 man is the boss... and if that 1 man is evil, well then, the only thing that stops an evil man w/ a gun, is a good man w/ a gun...

So... Janitor Shoot 'Em Joe gonna save us? Larry the Lunch Lady gotta b packin'? OR let's just give every child in AmeriKKKa a gun at birth. A gun, a laptop, and 5 acres of land, and just say, "It's Hobbesian's State of Nature out there, so get ready, for Dog-Eat-Dog AmeriKKKa/KKKentucKKKe. Good luck kid."?

Just like you said. You lock your guns up away from your children. You dont allow them to carry a pistol on their belt, in order to check your monopoly on violence, your centralized Lincoln-esque government, and you're against Children's Rights/State's Rights. Only the Federal Govt (You) can have the gun, but the States, nope. They gotta be treated like children. They need somebody to take the guns outta of their hands.

If Obama proposes to have a massive spending bill, say $50 Trillion, in order to curtail gun violence, and lots of folks were supporting it, and it made logical sense to me, I'd be in favor of it. That's an Obama Gun bill that I would not be against. Spend money on our infrastructure so that more folks can enjoy whatever blessins this country has, get the poor to the middle class, work on mental health, adn the homeless, and how to treat each of us betta... etc. Gun violence would go down. That's true.
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Dec 31, 2012
 
My kids do not carry guns because teen agers do not posses reasoning skills of an adult. They will when they get older if they wish. Crimes don't need guns but it does take a gun to stop most criminals. We now you are a socialist and are against American rights that's your agenda. Banning guns won't stop any crime. o j didn't use a gun.
John Masters

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Dec 31, 2012
 
I am a social anarchist... give us all liberty, or else! So that's ok... in the US, you're allowed to have differing ideals... that's what makes this country great. Remember Socialists like guns too... though they ain't perfect. Fidel Castro was anti-homosexuals. Even formed concentration camps for them, to get "re-educated". So I dont represent him. I do represent Karl Marx a lil bit, except he thought the Socialist Revolution would happen in the Industrialized nations. It did not. It happens in the peasant nations: China, Cuba, Bolivia.

NOW, the same logic used against your children having guns is the same logic used to make sure the citizens aren't armed. The citizens aren't capable of understanding what's best for them... esp the insane... or the criminal... or the ones who Frankfort designates as insane and criminal, even though the police represent the most violent, drug-addled, psychopaths in our society. Whose more violent? Who robs folks more? Who robs folks of their money, and their freedom? Who represents the poor? The public defender? What rights do the poor have? What rights do children have?
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Dec 31, 2012
 
Sounds like your finally agreeing our government can't determine what's best for us. So they should leave our guns alone. I'm glad your figuring this out finally. And Happy New Year.
John Masters

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Dec 31, 2012
 
It's not that I'm finally figuring it out... I watched Lawrence O'Donnell do a piece about guns and gun violence, and Australia didn't want the disease of gun violence going there, and started to take the most deadly guns off of their streets. The NRA owns both political parties, Dems and Reps, Federal and State (except Gerald Neal), so I'm sure you don't have much to worry about with anybody coming into your house, and taking what you already own. I just don't see that. But like you said, with locking your guns away from your children, that's the correct path. Make schools gun free. I can't see anybody wanting to arm everybody's children, or if they did, of it actually happening, which is the best way to decentralize whose got the power. Mao Tse Dung said that power comes from the barrel of a gun. When Newtown happened, the teacher who saved her classroom wouldn't open the door up to the military who was there to "save" her since they sounded so much like the locked and loaded Adam Lanza. So since that's not going to happen, we need to keep guns and violence and all things police state, out of the school. Having a cop there isn't a bad idea, but turning school into a private prison, is the worst idea possible. Stanford's Prison Experiment already showed us what happens when society's stratified into strict classes b/t haves and have nots. So yes to a cop, chosen by the Site-Based Decision Making Councils, I'm fine with, since there's democratic elements there. BUT, I'm against it being like a prison... w/ everybody being searched all the time, and drills, and drug dogs, and all the rest. This isn't the America I want to live in. Ben Franklin said those who would sacrifice liberty for security, deserve neither. I humbly agree.

Happy New Year to you too, mayne
John Masters

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Dec 31, 2012
 
Here's some fireworks from Moscow: https://www.youtube.com/watch...

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