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Woman seriously hurt in Shirley fire - Sentinel & Enterprise

There are 51 comments on the Sentinel & Enterprise story from Dec 7, 2009, titled Woman seriously hurt in Shirley fire - Sentinel & Enterprise. In it, Sentinel & Enterprise reports that:

Shirley Fire Capt. Joe Hawthorne has been fighting fires for 33 years, so he is used to being awakened by a pager, heading to the fire station and then going out to battle flames.

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Doc Eddy

Leominster, MA

#1 Dec 7, 2009
No surprise to hear Joe Hawthorne act so courageously. Joe's a class guy from a class family. Joe's a class "A" firefighter.
fedupwithpolitic ians

United States

#2 Dec 7, 2009
thank you for being a hero

Gardner, MA

#3 Dec 7, 2009
Good Job. We need more selfless people in the world!

Townsend, MA

#4 Dec 7, 2009
my prays are with the lady that was burned in the fire we can only hope for the best for her and kno that she is getting the best care there is have faith in god.. god bless you and your family.
Frank Jones

Lowell, MA

#5 Dec 7, 2009
No suprise is right Dr. Eddy. Joe Hawthorne is old school; he is a true fire fighter and he is a hero.
John J Cardillo SR

Warwick, MA

#6 Dec 7, 2009
Joe Hawthorne,Job well done!
John J Cardillo SR

Warwick, MA

#7 Dec 7, 2009
Job Well done Joe! Class A Firefighter and Hero!

"Fair Winds and Following Seas"


Clinton, MA

#8 Dec 7, 2009
hats off to a true american hero, we need more men like this.

Milton, MA

#9 Dec 7, 2009
These are the stories Hero's are made from. God bless you Mr. Hawthorne, one woman will have the gift of life for Christmas this year, and she has you to thank.

Thank you to all the men and woman out there that fight for our safety and lives each and every day. Every one of you is a Hero in my book!!!

Boston, MA

#10 Dec 7, 2009
Great rescue! All firefighters train to prepare themselves to make a resue like this but only few are fortunate enough to be in the right place at the right time. Let's hope the victim survives and can some day meet the firefighter who saved her life.

Windham, NH

#11 Dec 7, 2009
But for the actions of this firefighter, the outcome would surely have been less fortunate. Hats off to him and the police officers who respond when we need them most.

Worcester, MA

#12 Dec 7, 2009
I posted this on the Lowell Sun page also but feel it's right to put up here as well.

I am in super proud daughter mode today. I talked to my dad yesterday and he did not mention one word about what he did. I learned about it here in the newspaper. But that is the way of firefighters and my dad is firefighter through and through. They don't brag about what they do. "It's just my job" is a phrase I've heard many times in my life. However, it is much, much more than a job. Firefighting is a way of life and all firefighters would do the same thing my dad did. That is what they do, yes, but it is also who they are. I am not only proud of my dad but of all the Shirley firefighters and all firefighters in general. There is a reason they call firefighters "The Bravest". The town of Shirley may want to remember times like these when they are laying off these men and women who will risk their lives for people they don't even know. I know if I was ever trapped in a fire, I would be praying for my dad to be nearby!!! I would also like to say that although they are only mentioned in a small part of this article that the two cops on scene Ofc Sammy Santiago and Sgt Peter Violette both also put their safety aside and stepped into the flames with my dad. I for one am proud to work side by side with these people on a daily basis and I wouldn't want to be anywhere else. My co-workers are all heroes and they prove it time and time again!!!

Shrewsbury, MA

#13 Dec 7, 2009
plus mr/hawthorne is just a great guy in general,,couldnt expect less out of him..in fact the whole SFD are just great guys
Charlie Pearl

Worcester, MA

#14 Dec 7, 2009
You should be proud Katie...Your Dad is a good man. He would do this again in a second if called upon.Nice work Joe!!

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Dave Brand

Mansfield, MA

#15 Dec 7, 2009
Joe you are truely a guy who I want in our town you are the best.... Getting it done!!!!

Worcester, MA

#16 Dec 7, 2009
Was proper firefighting procedure that is typical and standard followed?
Frank Jones

Lowell, MA

#17 Dec 8, 2009
Who the H is Charlie Pearl? Sounds like a 70s snow blower?

Franklin, MA

#18 Dec 8, 2009
Question wrote:
Was proper firefighting procedure that is typical and standard followed?
There was nothing standard or typical about this rescue. It's my understanding that Capt. Hawthorne was on his way to the Station when he heard there was someone trapped. He had to drive by the location to get to the Station. If he had continued on to the Station, got his equipment and responded with apparatus, this person would have died. He put his education and years of experience to work, weighed the options and took an extreme risk. It paid off. You cannot always go "by the Book".

Keep in mind also that the Town of Shirley help create this situation. Up until about a year ago, the Shirley Fire Dept. had two firefighters on duty around the clock. This would have allowed their first Engine to respond with a minimal crew immediately. If that had happened, perhaps it would have been them, in full turnout gear and SCBA with a hoseline making that rescue. With only two guys, it's a far from optimal situation, but far safer than the situation that Joe found himself in.

Instead, Shirley laid off 2/3 of their career staff and no longer mans the Station 24 hours/day. At night it is unmanned and the firefighters have to respond from home to pick up the apparatus. This is in no way a "slam" against the call guys. They do a great job with the cards they are dealt. But that means it still takes time to get out the door... Hence Capt. Hawthorne being forced to make the decision he did. This is the real face of these kinds of cut backs.

The real shame is that stimulus money could have been available to put those guys back in the Station, but it's my understanding that their Chief made no attempt to apply for it..

Leominster, MA

#19 Dec 8, 2009
Question wrote:
Was proper firefighting procedure that is typical and standard followed?
Sir - If my dad, Sgt Violette and Ofc Santiago had not all risked their own lives to go into that fire, this woman would not be alive right now. I highly doubt that her or her family are concerned about procedure right now. Furthermore, would you be talking about it had they run in and saved you or anyone in your family from a fully involved burning house? Any other firefigher or cop in this town, and any other for that matter, would have done the same thing had they been the closest to the scene. And had we not lived so close, the outcome of this fire would have been different. Please don't condemn bravery and self sacrifice at it's best from these three men!!
PJ Roy

Windham, NH

#20 Dec 8, 2009
I had the pleasure of working with Captain Hawthorne for almost 5 years and he is an old school firefighter and did a great job protocol or not he made the right decision and pulled this women to safety. He gets my vote for firefighter of the year no doubt. Maybe Shirley will come together and realize how important firefighters are and put some of the laid off fireman back on the job. Congrats Joe.

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