Suburbs see big rise in ELL students

Full story: Lowell Sun 24
Susan MacDonald speaks only English. She has dabbled in Spanish but admits her skills there are limited at best. Full Story
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wow

Oklahoma City, OK

#1 Sep 9, 2010
Does this drive anyone else nuts? Are tax paying money going towards buying people who can't speak English. Learn the language before you come here. We're the only country in the world the caters towards people who can't speak the language and its on our dime.
Hammerhead

Lexington, MA

#2 Sep 9, 2010
check their legal status and deport them that will solve alot of the issues
OnceChelmsford

Bedford, MA

#3 Sep 9, 2010
MA has become a haven for Illegals, and you can blame the liberal democrat legislature for that. Susan Fargo, Niki Tsongas, Barney Frank, it is an endless amount of names and their irresponsible leadership is never addressed. They tell you what you want to hear and do the opposite. People just keep voting these idiots into office time after time, I swear the people in MA are the stupidest in the country, how in gods name can anybody vote for Susan Fargo or Niki Tsongas? are you ALL for real? It just defies logic. Illegals are voting in Lawrence, think the MA democrats are going to enforce the issue of illegal immigrants voting? Hell NO! We have become a HAVEN for illegals and it is sure to get worse, care of the MA Democratic Party...
bostonpostroad

Westford, MA

#5 Sep 9, 2010
wow wrote:
Does this drive anyone else nuts? Are tax paying money going towards buying people who can't speak English. Learn the language before you come here. We're the only country in the world the caters towards people who can't speak the language and its on our dime.
Yes this drives me nuts. Too many coddling entitlement services. My grandparents came from Germany and Italy in the early 1900s, learned how to speak English and went to public schools. Back then, there was incentive to help yourself to success. Not now ...

Regarding the illegal v. legal immigrants. The illegals should not be getting services. The legal immigrants should pay for ELL, but not for a public education.
ilovemerp

Dracut, MA

#6 Sep 9, 2010
everyone should pay for their own education. stop living off my taxes, you soccer mom child breeding skanks
perplexed

Bedford, MA

#7 Sep 9, 2010
OnceChelmsford wrote:
MA has become a haven for Illegals, and you can blame the liberal democrat legislature for that. Susan Fargo, Niki Tsongas, Barney Frank, it is an endless amount of names and their irresponsible leadership is never addressed. They tell you what you want to hear and do the opposite. People just keep voting these idiots into office time after time, I swear the people in MA are the stupidest in the country, how in gods name can anybody vote for Susan Fargo or Niki Tsongas? are you ALL for real? It just defies logic. Illegals are voting in Lawrence, think the MA democrats are going to enforce the issue of illegal immigrants voting? Hell NO! We have become a HAVEN for illegals and it is sure to get worse, care of the MA Democratic Party...
Couldn't have said it better! The Democrats are afraid to enforce our immigration laws. They cater to them so that when som idiot politician decides to give amnisty to them, the Dems are looking for them to vote with them! That is the only way the Democrat party will flourish. Too many people havehad enough of the liberal, give them everything ways going on now! Americans need to stand up for ourselves and not be call racists for doing so. Why can't we be "Proud Americans".
wow

Oklahoma City, OK

#8 Sep 9, 2010
OnceChelmsford wrote:
MA has become a haven for Illegals, and you can blame the liberal democrat legislature for that. Susan Fargo, Niki Tsongas, Barney Frank, it is an endless amount of names and their irresponsible leadership is never addressed. They tell you what you want to hear and do the opposite. People just keep voting these idiots into office time after time, I swear the people in MA are the stupidest in the country, how in gods name can anybody vote for Susan Fargo or Niki Tsongas? are you ALL for real? It just defies logic. Illegals are voting in Lawrence, think the MA democrats are going to enforce the issue of illegal immigrants voting? Hell NO! We have become a HAVEN for illegals and it is sure to get worse, care of the MA Democratic Party...
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Spot on. It's unfortunate because Tsongas lost in every town but she one Lowell and Lawrence because of the huge minority population, these people shouldn't be voting in the first place unfortunatly they are allowed to and their vote counts. Their going to vote these liberal idiots into office everytime because they know life is just going to be easier with these clowns in office, more benefits for the lazy jerks who'd rather sit around watch soaps and smoke all day. Enough is enough, that's why the only good thing about having this idiot in office is that America is going to be so sick of liberals a republican will be voted in just like when how we got Reagan after 4 years of that idiot Carter.
DracutDad

Bronx, NY

#9 Sep 9, 2010
Oh great, these type of people are looking towards the suburbs. All future Obama and Deval voters. Keep up the good work Tsongas. What will you be running for next once you get voted out in November, oh wait, there should be enough illegals and lazy-do-nothings at the polls to get you re-elected.
What is happening to our country??
who cares

Dracut, MA

#10 Sep 9, 2010
ok. so let's assume that ALL these people moving out to the suburbs are immigrants....fine....and yes...everyone wants them deported or burned in furnaces....ok.....but this article is about their kids. like it or not, while you have your "liberal idiots" in office these kids are in our schools. should we put them all in closets or ignore them? they are children! oh and p.s.....i've been teaching in lowell for 13 years....which included time under a republican president, and guess what??? we had children who didn't speak english then too.
Honest Posting

Waltham, MA

#11 Sep 9, 2010
Definition of pathetic: People who post an inflamitory comment "put all them illegals in a furnace", and then post (under a different name) that "yes...everyone wants them deported or burned in furnaces....ok"

If you can't defend your position with facts and logic, you should re-think your position, don't pretend to be on the other side and make ridiculous statements.
who cares

Dracut, MA

#12 Sep 9, 2010
honest.....i'm who cares....not ilovemerp....i was being sarcastic. for the record, i don't think people should be burned in furnaces. oh and there's more than just one person who lives in dracut.
disgusting

Chelsea, MA

#13 Sep 9, 2010
who cares wrote:
... i've been teaching in lowell for 13 years....which included time under a republican president, and guess what??? we had children who didn't speak english then too.
The fact that it was republican leadership that makes it okay?

Constitutional Convention Now! Add the Amendment Now! All public purposes, English Only!

I'm willing to donate cash to a course to help these children and their parents learn the language. Thousands of other immigrants migrate to this country and pay cash to learn the language... why does my kid have to have his or her education hindered because of an ESL student?

Disgusting waste of tax money... Further proof of government's inefficiency.
DracutDad

Bronx, NY

#14 Sep 9, 2010
who cares wrote:
ok. so let's assume that ALL these people moving out to the suburbs are immigrants....fine....and yes...everyone wants them deported or burned in furnaces....ok.....but this article is about their kids. like it or not, while you have your "liberal idiots" in office these kids are in our schools. should we put them all in closets or ignore them? they are children! oh and p.s.....i've been teaching in lowell for 13 years....which included time under a republican president, and guess what??? we had children who didn't speak english then too.
Burned in furnaces????? Deported? I never said that. Just sick of the special treatment. Also sick of the "for the children" line. You teaching for 13 years has no bearing on this discussion. in fact if the teachers and their union spent some more time pushing for English being spoken this would be less of a problem.
who cares

Dracut, MA

#15 Sep 9, 2010
"The fact that it was republican leadership that makes it okay?"

no. i'm just saying it doesn't matter who is in office...kids that can't speak english are in your schools.

"why does my kid have to have his or her education hindered because of an ESL student?"

actually your kid's education isn't hindered because the ESL students have separate groups to help them learn english. the teachers teach your child and the ESL student gets extra support to learn what your kid just learned....more often by either an ESL teacher or someone else. don't worry. your kid won't be harmed by that non-english speaking monster! you should worry more about the native "white kid" who's parents are abled-bodied people who don't work because they are on welfare. i'd be p*ssed about that if i were you. just sayin'
citizen

Lowell, MA

#16 Sep 9, 2010
who cares wrote:
"The fact that it was republican leadership that makes it okay?"
no. i'm just saying it doesn't matter who is in office...kids that can't speak english are in your schools.
"why does my kid have to have his or her education hindered because of an ESL student?"
actually your kid's education isn't hindered because the ESL students have separate groups to help them learn english. the teachers teach your child and the ESL student gets extra support to learn what your kid just learned....more often by either an ESL teacher or someone else. don't worry. your kid won't be harmed by that non-english speaking monster! you should worry more about the native "white kid" who's parents are abled-bodied people who don't work because they are on welfare. i'd be p*ssed about that if i were you. just sayin'
Our kids education IS most certainly being hindered, our tax money is paying for these classes, that money could/should be spent on better education for our kids.
Mink

Lowell, MA

#17 Sep 9, 2010
Obama-Nation. Keep voting for those bleeding heart liberal democRATS, moonbats! You reap what you sew.
who cares

Dracut, MA

#18 Sep 9, 2010
citizen wrote:
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Our kids education IS most certainly being hindered, our tax money is paying for these classes, that money could/should be spent on better education for our kids.
actually it's paying for teachers, not classes, and most of the ESL teachers have been working as ESL teachers for years! why is it a problem now? i grew up in the 80's. i remember ESL teachers in my school back then! the fact that they were there didn't hinder my education. did it hinder yours? snd what is "better education"? do you even know?
who cares

Dracut, MA

#19 Sep 9, 2010
DracutDad wrote:
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Burned in furnaces????? Deported? I never said that. Just sick of the special treatment. Also sick of the "for the children" line. You teaching for 13 years has no bearing on this discussion. in fact if the teachers and their union spent some more time pushing for English being spoken this would be less of a problem.
so if we push for only english to be spoken then what do we do with the older kids coming into the middle and HS without english? the little ones will survive! they have years to master english and excel in school. the older ones don't. they simply don't have the time. so what do we do with them? should we take the F*'em attitude?
who cares

Dracut, MA

#20 Sep 9, 2010
DracutDad wrote:
<quoted text>
Burned in furnaces????? Deported? I never said that. Just sick of the special treatment. Also sick of the "for the children" line. You teaching for 13 years has no bearing on this discussion. in fact if the teachers and their union spent some more time pushing for English being spoken this would be less of a problem.
oh and actually my teaching for 13 is very relevant! my point was that during my time as a teacher, i worked while there was a republican president and we in fact had ESL students in our schools then too. democrat/republican....it doesn't matter. these kids are still in our classroom!
citizen

Lowell, MA

#21 Sep 9, 2010
I graduated in the early 80's and no, my school didn't have ESL teachers as far as I can remember.
I think you are just making things up for arguments sake. My kids deserve better for what I am paying in taxes, maybe if we didn't have to pay for so many ESL teachers the kids would have better materials in their schools, maybe more electives, maybe even more security. I will answer your question about why it is a problem now? Look at the heading of this topic, there is a big rise in ELL students which means more taxpayer money going toward it.Did you even read the article?

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