Principal: School is ready

Principal: School is ready

There are 32 comments on the Nashoba Publishing story from Aug 27, 2010, titled Principal: School is ready. In it, Nashoba Publishing reports that:

Dear parents, guardians, students, and members of the Shirley community: The end of summer is approaching and our thoughts are beginning to turn to the start of school and to new beginnings.

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Justsayen

Lancaster, MA

#1 Aug 29, 2010
The school is ready; is that the same school that was going to topple on top of the children if we didn't pass regionalization and get them out of there quick?
So what's the new plan? We get the kids in there for a few more years, then when there is no appetite to build another structure in Ayer for about ten students since population is down and anyone who cares about their kids (such as school committee people) won't allow their kids to attend the regional school, so Mack will flip flop again and say No I really meant it the first time 10 years ago when I said the school was falling. If you don't give us the money to build a new school in Ayer the LAW will fall down I really, really mean it this time. Or it will cost ONE BILLION DOLLARS to fix!
Victory

AOL

#2 Aug 30, 2010
Justsayen wrote:
The school is ready; is that the same school that was going to topple on top of the children if we didn't pass regionalization and get them out of there quick?
So what's the new plan? We get the kids in there for a few more years, then when there is no appetite to build another structure in Ayer for about ten students since population is down and anyone who cares about their kids (such as school committee people) won't allow their kids to attend the regional school, so Mack will flip flop again and say No I really meant it the first time 10 years ago when I said the school was falling. If you don't give us the money to build a new school in Ayer the LAW will fall down I really, really mean it this time. Or it will cost ONE BILLION DOLLARS to fix!
I'd like to know when the hell we are getting rid of Flip Flop Mack? The sky is falling, the sky is falling!
Get informed

Hyde Park, MA

#3 Sep 8, 2010
You two are embarrassingly ignorant. What's the plan? Try attending one of the MANY scheduled public meetings and read through all the details so you understand what the short and long term plans are and WHY they were put into place. As for Mr. Reid, we have been very fortunate to have his knowledge and experience. He puts in well beyond the time and work he has been hired for. Have you ever considered doing some volunteer work since you think everyone else is doing such a lousy job?
Justsayen

Lancaster, MA

#4 Sep 8, 2010
Get informed wrote:
You two are embarrassingly ignorant. What's the plan? Try attending one of the MANY scheduled public meetings and read through all the details so you understand what the short and long term plans are and WHY they were put into place. As for Mr. Reid, we have been very fortunate to have his knowledge and experience. He puts in well beyond the time and work he has been hired for. Have you ever considered doing some volunteer work since you think everyone else is doing such a lousy job?
I didnít realize quarter of a million per year Read was volunteering! Ooo so there is a plan! I've been to enough of the meetings to know Mack the Liar Read has a plan one day to get him through the obstacle of the day, and change the plan then next day to get him through the obstacle of the day and so on, and so on and so on.......... the only thing he's consistant on; he never tells the truth.
Get informed

Hyde Park, MA

#5 Sep 10, 2010
Justsayen wrote:
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I didnít realize quarter of a million per year Read was volunteering! Ooo so there is a plan! I've been to enough of the meetings to know Mack the Liar Read has a plan one day to get him through the obstacle of the day, and change the plan then next day to get him through the obstacle of the day and so on, and so on and so on.......... the only thing he's consistant on; he never tells the truth.
You are not telling the truth. I have been to alomost every meeting and with the exception of a few teachers here and there, I was the only one. Shame on you...
Justsayen

Lancaster, MA

#6 Sep 10, 2010
Get informed wrote:
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You are not telling the truth. I have been to alomost every meeting and with the exception of a few teachers here and there, I was the only one. Shame on you...
Oh really! And what makes you think I'm not a teacher? Also I know for a fact at least 3 or 4 meetings there were other people. You must be related to Mack the Liar Reid, or Even the Liar Catz!
Trying to understand

Ayer, MA

#7 Sep 10, 2010
I don't think it's helpful for this back and forth bickering. "Get informed" makes a very valid point. There are few in attendance at important meetings and certainly are hardly any regulars, including teachers. We are all busy with our own families and teachers spend a lot of extra time outside of the school day preparing for their lessons. The above comments are not clear. Are people (or the teacher) feeling that they have been deceived in some way? I don't understnad the quarter of a million remark. I think the plans mentioned are the required plans prepared for and approved by the state. Is this incorrect? Is "Justsayin" upset that Laura White isn't closing right away? Is there an alternative to the plan that makes more sense to you? Just trying to understand what the specific issues are, how they relate to teaching and learning, and what you feel is the best way to address serious building issues that are cost effective while still keeping the needs of students in the forefront. We also need to be concerned with the NEASC report, accredidations, and how the condition of the buildings are a "detriment" to the students accessing the curriculum as outlined in the frameworks. Thanks for your respectful reply.
Justsayen

Lancaster, MA

#8 Sep 11, 2010
Trying to understand wrote:
I don't think it's helpful for this back and forth bickering. "Get informed" makes a very valid point. There are few in attendance at important meetings and certainly are hardly any regulars, including teachers. We are all busy with our own families and teachers spend a lot of extra time outside of the school day preparing for their lessons. The above comments are not clear. Are people (or the teacher) feeling that they have been deceived in some way? I don't understnad the quarter of a million remark. I think the plans mentioned are the required plans prepared for and approved by the state. Is this incorrect? Is "Justsayin" upset that Laura White isn't closing right away? Is there an alternative to the plan that makes more sense to you? Just trying to understand what the specific issues are, how they relate to teaching and learning, and what you feel is the best way to address serious building issues that are cost effective while still keeping the needs of students in the forefront. We also need to be concerned with the NEASC report, accredidations, and how the condition of the buildings are a "detriment" to the students accessing the curriculum as outlined in the frameworks. Thanks for your respectful reply.
The reason the meetings are not well attended is partly due to what you said, too busy. The other two reasons are; why bother? Mack the liar Reid and Evan the Liar Katz will say whatever they have to , and then go back to what they were going to do anyway. They are far from truthful. The third is, all the schoolies don't come out because they don't have to. However when it comes to ATM or STM they come in droves to push crap through that would never be passed by the majority of the town. They only way to move forward is for the RSC to adopt policies that mimic the policies of the rest of the town, although since the school has more discretion on how the receive money and move around money, they need more policies that must be reviewed at the beginning of each school year. It the state give x amount to the school the school will do x with it, If the school is short, will the school lay off teachers and give teachers raises or what exactly will their policy be? And to answer your question about the LAW school; yes we were lied to saying it had to close immediately, it would cost (and the inflated the cost by at least 7 million) to fix the school or we could just regionalize, and it will solve all our ills. We are still waiting for the bill, but we already know its going to be tens of millions more than what Mack the Liar Reid alluded too.
Trying to understand

Ayer, MA

#9 Sep 13, 2010
Your anger seems to run deep and I'm trying to understand what the issues are. I do have to comment on a few things. I don't believe that anyone is trying to push "crap" through. The schools, as well as any town services, have been cut back year after year. What I see as one of the main issues is the amount health care cost rise every year, in upwards of 12 or more percent, a serious cost to the town, especially when taxes can only be raised two and a half percent. Unfortunately, we can't control that. While I agree that policies need to be clear, and the regional school committee is working on those policies right now w/ the state, policies cannot violate the law. The committee also is working on new contracts, but there are laws that control those as well, espcially as you combine contracts. I don't think anyone would argue with the fact that the LAW is in very bad condition and needs to be completly renovated or put to bed. So, If the town of Shirley chose to stay a single school system and keep the building and renovate it, they would pay for it completley on their own. In addition, the HS tuition paid to Lunenburg and Ayer would go up dramatically. With regionalizing and choosing to close LAW, the town of Shirley is taking the less costly route of no longer paying tuition and paying for part of the MS/HS renovation with more reimbursement from the state becasue both towns are now regioanlized. The building costs shared with the public were the estimated costs from the state. The final numbers are unknown until a feasibility study is completed. Yes, Shirley is taking the risk of keeping LAW open for longer than was advised during a nenovation, but the committies made that decision not the superintendents, and it was a tough decision to make. There is no quick fix and no miracles to be had. There are certainly very tough decisions to be made about the future of our towns and people who live within their borders. It pains me to hear how unhappy a resident is with one of its town leaders and I would imagine I could not change your mind on how you view these people even if I knew them well enough to sing any praises. I do know, however, that a new superintendent will need to be hired and a committee will be formed to search for, interview, and hire the new regional school's leader. I do hope you consider being part of the process.
Justsayen

Lancaster, MA

#10 Sep 13, 2010
1st you are not trying to understand, 2nd I was not angry as you suggest, although you are going to get me there with your making believe you dont understand. 3rd members of the school committee made a decision to give Lunenburg anything and everything they want in order to make regionalization look more attractive than it is. 4th The LAW does not need all the renovations that Mack the Liar Reid said it did and could have been done for millions less, but again he wanted regionalization look more attractive.
Justsayen

Lancaster, MA

#11 Sep 13, 2010
oh and healthcare must be taken out of collective bargaining. We can work on that after November when your moonbat friends are thrown out of the state house.
Trying to understand

Ayer, MA

#12 Sep 14, 2010
You should probably take a look at the state report from a few years ago rating LAW's condition. From a 1 to a 5, the state gave the building a 5 which is the worst possible condition. Ayer recently went through NEASC and their report put the district on warning for their acredidation due to the condition of the building. You may want to reread my statement about the options Shirley, specifically had re: buildings, tuitions etc. As far as health insurance, I do believe the state needs to step in to control the rates, but taking health insurance away from town employees is not only impossible, but wrong on many levels. Finding more competitive rates is something the school committees are working on. I have read your comments with no real suggestions on how to address the issues:
-Buildings in poor condition
-Increased academic, health, etc. demands by the state frameworks with less money
-Special education costs, especially for out of district; costs we cannot control unless we put money into the schools to hold onto those students
-Students choicing out becasue of the continued cuts, which is an additional cost to the town
-Contract negotiations
-Policies
-Etc.
Please state some specific and realistic ways of addressing these and many other issues because right now I still don't understand you. I do, however, understandd the challenges in our communities.
Get informed

Hyde Park, MA

#13 Sep 14, 2010
When someone lowers themselves enough to resort to name-calling, a perception would be that that person is angry. If there's another perseption you're trying to give (other than ignorance) then state it. Also, give some specific and realistic options to tackle the issues the towns are facing re: education, etc. You are pointing fingers and not offering any real information.
aunty vitriol

Leominster, MA

#14 Sep 14, 2010
Justsayen wrote:
1st you are not trying to understand, 2nd I was not angry as you suggest, although you are going to get me there with your making believe you dont understand. 3rd members of the school committee made a decision to give Lunenburg anything and everything they want in order to make regionalization look more attractive than it is. 4th The LAW does not need all the renovations that Mack the Liar Reid said it did and could have been done for millions less, but again he wanted regionalization look more attractive.
and this is one of the people who ran for the regional committee promising to accept the peoples' decision, yeah, sure, right!
Get informed

Hyde Park, MA

#15 Sep 14, 2010
Really? Wow. The people made the right choice.

Also, what "decision" did the members of the school committee make regarding Justsayen's comment to give Lunenburg "anything and everything they wanted"? What was it they wanted and what was given to them? Can't find that information anywhere in the meeting minutes, votes, etc.
Justsayen

Lancaster, MA

#16 Sep 15, 2010
Get informed wrote:
Really? Wow. The people made the right choice.
Also, what "decision" did the members of the school committee make regarding Justsayen's comment to give Lunenburg "anything and everything they wanted"? What was it they wanted and what was given to them? Can't find that information anywhere in the meeting minutes, votes, etc.
The exorbitant increase in cost. The reason they gave away the store simply to make regionalization look more attractive borderlines on criminal; there should be jail time.
Justsayen

Lancaster, MA

#17 Sep 15, 2010
aunty vitriol wrote:
<quoted text>and this is one of the people who ran for the regional committee promising to accept the peoples' decision, yeah, sure, right!
I can prove all my assertions. I'm glad you think you know who I am; let me tell you something, there are plenty of people in town who are ticked off at what happened; and there will be 10 times more before the years out when some more truths come out. Your lies have been a great disservice to our town.
Get informed

Hyde Park, MA

#18 Sep 15, 2010
Justsayen wrote:
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The exorbitant increase in cost. The reason they gave away the store simply to make regionalization look more attractive borderlines on criminal; there should be jail time.
I don't get it. Waht increase in costs? The schol budgets were both approved at town meeting. I don't see any increase in costs or any evidence of giving "away the store." Please be specific and reference something we can all look at. Also, you still haven't given alternative options as asked by several posts. What do you suggest as options to address the issues stated before? Specifics, please. THanks
Trying to understand

Ayer, MA

#19 Sep 15, 2010
Justsayen, I am really trying to understand your position, but I need specific information from you in order to see things from your eyes. I want to understand the perceptions and/or perspectives of others in order to have a clearer view of the issues. Could you possibly help me by providing some detail on what is upsetting to you and how you would specifically address the issue from your point of view? Maybe you could just choose one issue. Perhaps you could choose one of the following:
1- The poor condition of LAW and the Ayer-Shirley MS/HS
2- The amount of students choicing out of Shirley at a high cost to the town
3- The high and rising costs of special education, especially realted to out-of-district costs
4- Increased demands on the schools with less resources (for example, the addition of a bullying prevention law will take up more resources and time, with no increase in funds to support the requirements)
You also mention that there are plenty of people ticked off in town about what happened. Could you please tell me what happened?
I am retired and understand the concern of others living on a fixed income. I also see short and long term issues to address and how those, too, affect finances. Thank you in advance for being more clear.
aunty vitriol

Leominster, MA

#20 Sep 15, 2010
Justsayen wrote:
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I can prove all my assertions. I'm glad you think you know who I am; let me tell you something, there are plenty of people in town who are ticked off at what happened; and there will be 10 times more before the years out when some more truths come out. Your lies have been a great disservice to our town.
Uh, I think, according to the regionalization committe election vote, you've got bout 250-275 voters who are in your corner, probably 75% of those know you are uninformed and using misleading information, they don't care, they just don't want their taxes to go up, they couldn't care less about the "community" or well-being of Shirley. The odds of you andyour ilk convincing 10 times as many voters to change their mind are impossible, as every town meeting and most general elections have proven, the majority of Shirley voters care about their town and their quality of life. Bye, Joe>

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