stop section 8 housing and why!

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hedi

Pittsburgh, PA

#1 Jul 14, 2010
One of the problems with Wilkinsburg is it has loads and loads of section 8 housing which is bad for the community the owners of the homes do not police the residents and they do not keep up the property, it has been documented that where ever section 8 homes are that mainstream crime is the main issue.
I live across from a whole row of section 8 homes and the owners Arhco has done nothing to make sure those that are living in the homes are really the ones on the least. The one house at 1439 Mill st zip 15221 had a man die in the house of a drug overdose I was told heroin.
Around 2:00 in the morning the coroner's van came to bring the man out in a body bag it was the residents boy friend who had been living there.

When the company and HUD was notified about the man dying in the home from a drug OD to this very day nothing has been done. And our tax dollars continue to pay for those people to stay in that home. Most of the crime in Wilkinsburg can be tracked back to section 8 residents, who have nothing vested in the community. I am hoping that funding stops for this program or at least make those in the program pay over 70% of their rent and utilities. The program needs to be harder to get involved in and those on it should only be able to stay on it for 7 years or less. No more generations living on the Government. ;)
Ho Lee Schitt

Pennington, NJ

#3 Jul 14, 2010
Section 8 housing in cities is a breeding ground for crime. In some cities attempts to spread section 8 housing into decent neighborhoods has led to some formerly decent neighborhoods becoming crime ridden because of the animals they bring into these neighborhoods. The schools usually suffer too because of an influx of 'students' who have no interest in learning but are only bent on disruption ,destruction and violent behavior. Maybe if we stopped feeding and housing these people they would learn to reproduce responsibly!

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#4 Jul 14, 2010
Wow, the racism in this thread is almost overwhelming.

Most of the crime in Wilkinsburg cannot be traced back to Section 8. It can be traced back to poverty, of which Section 8 is just another affect. Eliminate poverty, you will see crime rates drop...as well as Section 8 rates.

The issue here is not Section 8, its poverty.

Well poverty and racism.
Rich C

AOL

#5 Jul 15, 2010
keep section 8 out of my neighborhood. Put them all in the getto then i wouldnt care if i had to pay for them to live there. just keep them out of my area and my school. We need to re-open St. Clair Village and Arlington Heights, Westgate village and all the other projects in the city of Pittsburgh. then that will get them animals out of tax payers neighborhoods. when they close projects down where do you think they move the animals? TO YOUR Area. Keep the projects open. call your congressman and tell them to re-open the project and then they can put homeless people in there also.
Jesse Jackson

Lansdale, PA

#6 Jul 15, 2010
SunsFanAZ wrote:
Wow, the racism in this thread is almost overwhelming.
Most of the crime in Wilkinsburg cannot be traced back to Section 8. It can be traced back to poverty, of which Section 8 is just another affect. Eliminate poverty, you will see crime rates drop...as well as Section 8 rates.
The issue here is not Section 8, its poverty.
Well poverty and racism.
The issue is not poverty--it is personal responsibility!

Remember the white man causes all problems!

Since: Jul 10

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#7 Jul 15, 2010
And yet...even more racism. This time directed at white people.

No, the white man is not to blame. This has nothing to do with "the man", personal responsibility or Section 8 housing. Its an issue of poverty, nothing more, nothing less.

Section 8 does not cause crime. Poverty causes crime....and Section 8 housing. Wherever poverty goes, you will find this correlation.
Jesse Jackson

Lansdale, PA

#8 Jul 15, 2010
Wrong- lack of personal responsibility and morals cause crime. Not all poor people are cirminals!

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#9 Jul 15, 2010
Jesse Jackson wrote:
Wrong- lack of personal responsibility and morals cause crime. Not all poor people are cirminals!
But poverty increases the lack of personal responsibility. Yet again, poverty is the root cause here, not one of the effects.

And morality has nothing to do with this issue at all. Why bring religion into a purely earthly matter?
North Hills Bob

Pittsburgh, PA

#11 Jul 15, 2010
Section 8 serves a purpose, but too many will never get off of it, it's just so easy to live for practically free.

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#12 Jul 15, 2010
North Hills Bob wrote:
Section 8 serves a purpose, but too many will never get off of it, it's just so easy to live for practically free.
Agreed.

It needs an overhaul, just like most of the other welfare systems in this country like the VA, Social Security, etc.
hedi

Pittsburgh, PA

#13 Jul 15, 2010
SunsFanAZ wrote:
Wow, the racism in this thread is almost overwhelming.
Most of the crime in Wilkinsburg cannot be traced back to Section 8. It can be traced back to poverty, of which Section 8 is just another affect. Eliminate poverty, you will see crime rates drop...as well as Section 8 rates.
The issue here is not Section 8, its poverty.
Well poverty and racism.
That is not true at all poverty and crime has nothing to do with it, and there are people on section 8 that are not Black. The program is for losers most people in the program are either on drugs, alcoholic's or have some kind of criminal back ground i for one do not want my tax dollars to support them.

Since: Jan 10

Pittsburgh, PA

#14 Jul 16, 2010
I deal with section 8 people all the time., they are nothing but problems. First off, its a voluntary program, so if the landlords want the tenants out, they just fail their own building. Tenants are constantly lying about who is living with them, and how much their household income really is. Since they have never had to pay for things, they don't take care of them. They just move again, and get all new stuff. The landlords inflate the cost of the rent, because they know the tenant is not going to pay their portion. They all have 40 inch lcd televisions, and air conditioning. In fact the one unit i just saw in stowe a few days ago had a bar in the basement, and it was huge! These people live nicer than the people paying taxes for them to live. The minute they break something and the landlord won't fix it, they call the health department. IT's so sad. They should get rid of the section 8 inspectors, and just use the health dept. from the get-go. That way if the units are not kept up in good shape , it is cited, and under a criminal code.

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#15 Jul 16, 2010
hedi wrote:
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That is not true at all poverty and crime has nothing to do with it, and there are people on section 8 that are not Black. The program is for losers most people in the program are either on drugs, alcoholic's or have some kind of criminal back ground i for one do not want my tax dollars to support them.
Racist.

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#16 Jul 16, 2010
larrylawr wrote:
I deal with section 8 people all the time., they are nothing but problems. First off, its a voluntary program, so if the landlords want the tenants out, they just fail their own building. Tenants are constantly lying about who is living with them, and how much their household income really is. Since they have never had to pay for things, they don't take care of them. They just move again, and get all new stuff. The landlords inflate the cost of the rent, because they know the tenant is not going to pay their portion. They all have 40 inch lcd televisions, and air conditioning. In fact the one unit i just saw in stowe a few days ago had a bar in the basement, and it was huge! These people live nicer than the people paying taxes for them to live. The minute they break something and the landlord won't fix it, they call the health department. IT's so sad. They should get rid of the section 8 inspectors, and just use the health dept. from the get-go. That way if the units are not kept up in good shape , it is cited, and under a criminal code.
Is there *no* amount of mythology racists won't believe just to justify their hatred? Its disgusting that we share the same species.

Since: Jul 10

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#18 Jul 16, 2010
Why would I support a group that hates my own race?

The amount of BS you morons are willing to swallow in order to justify your hatred is sickening.
larry is s liar

Norvelt, PA

#19 Jul 17, 2010
larrylawr wrote:
IThey should get rid of the section 8 inspectors, and just use the health dept. from the get-go. That way if the units are not kept up in good shape , it is cited, and under a criminal code.
Yea, you're a lawyer, alright, larry- NOT! The county health dept. would not cite under the criminal code, moron.
hedi

Pittsburgh, PA

#20 Jul 17, 2010
SunsFanAZ wrote:
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Is there *no* amount of mythology racists won't believe just to justify their hatred? Its disgusting that we share the same species.
Well just to tell you I am Black and I hate the section 8 program and want it stopped, they need to add to the tax base not hurt it!

Since: Jul 10

Pittsburgh, PA

#21 Jul 18, 2010
SunsFanAZ wrote:
Wow, the racism in this thread is almost overwhelming.
Most of the crime in Wilkinsburg cannot be traced back to Section 8. It can be traced back to poverty, of which Section 8 is just another affect. Eliminate poverty, you will see crime rates drop...as well as Section 8 rates.
The issue here is not Section 8, its poverty.
Well poverty and racism.
I've read everyone's input on section 8 here. I didn't read anything about racism.
Absurdities of Da Burgh

Norvelt, PA

#22 Jul 18, 2010
pati_j2001 wrote:
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I've read everyone's input on section 8 here. I didn't read anything about racism.
One would have to be either incredibly naive or simply duplicitous to make such a statement. I lean toward the latter conclusion.
North Hills Bob

Pittsburgh, PA

#24 Jul 19, 2010
My old hometown is being ruined by Section 8, and they are all white trash. Race has nothing to do with it, it's lack of education and work ethic.

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