Babysitter's manslaughter charge dismissed

May 31, 2011 Read more: Public Opinion 77
Tuesday, May 31 -- The charge of involuntary manslaughter against Shippensburg area baby sitter Dottie Bowers was thrown out today during a preliminary hearing. Read more
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soldiermom

Effort, PA

#77 Jun 1, 2011
agree st thomas resident
soldiermom

Effort, PA

#78 Jun 1, 2011
Someone with more sense wrote:
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YES THEY DO. Ill blame who I want but you people are not perfect and cant say you are NONE of you where there, so NONE of you can say what Bowers might have been doing at the time it happened weather she was in the bathroom or what that hateful little brat has issues she at least knew by doing it that it could hurt the baby 10 year olds are not that stupid and i wish you were in that position some 10 year olds are uncontrollable because of the parents. So yes I dare to blame a 10 year old Thank you and its how I feel
you should stop calling this 10 yr old a brat, how would you like it if someone called you a name in every statement you have made you ahve run down this 10 yr old child KARMA
soldiermom

Effort, PA

#79 Jun 1, 2011
shipdad wrote:
<quoted text>it's it strange how this 7 year old, who's mom is good friends dottie changed her story and nobody even questions that.
yea and the 7 yr old handled the baby too they were passing him around but oh no she is innocent of everything
soldiermom

Effort, PA

#80 Jun 1, 2011
i agree with you on this chambersburg pa
shipp

Chambersburg, PA

#81 Jun 2, 2011
Plain and simple. What was Dottie during when the 10 year old was hurting this baby??? where were the monitors in this house. she could have heard what was going on! Or did she??
shipmommy

Greencastle, PA

#82 Jun 2, 2011
shipdad wrote:
<quoted text>it's it strange how this 7 year old, who's mom is good friends dottie changed her story and nobody even questions that.
she did not change her story the 10 year old changed her by first saying the 2 girls where passing the child back and forth but the trooper went on to investigate because the 7 year old isnt very big and theres no way she could have reached into the pack n play to pick the child up as the 10 year old stated. Why sit here and argue really whats the point the judge did what he had to do as his job there was just plain out not enough evidence there we all have to live with that weather we agree or disagree.
shipmommy

Greencastle, PA

#83 Jun 2, 2011
soldiermom wrote:
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you should stop calling this 10 yr old a brat, how would you like it if someone called you a name in every statement you have made you ahve run down this 10 yr old child KARMA
I do not care if someone feels they need to call me a name in every statement so be it, I just get sick of you people thinking shes so innocent. I run down on this child because while all of you guys sit here and say she did not know better well yes i do believe she may have not intended on killing the baby but she did know that it could hurt a baby or anyone for that matter, so I don't feel bad for her, and I think they should investigate into her home life because maybe there is something there that has made the 10 year old the way she is today. But im not s trooper or the judge and all I know is what everyone else knows bits and pieces, because NONE of us will ever know the whole truth.
Ridiculous

Manchester, MI

#84 Jun 2, 2011
I SEE SOME OF YOU ARE SAYING THAT PEOPLE DON'T GET JAILED UNLESS THERE IS ENOUGH EVEDINCE????? IT HAPPENS EVERYDAY!!!!! THE BABYSITTER WAS RESPONSABLE....PERIOD!
Get a LIFE

Greencastle, PA

#85 Jun 2, 2011
Fulton County wrote:
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Why anyone would leave their children to be cared for by a person who has proven to be irresponsible if for no other reason than not calling 911 in an emergency is beyond me. Maybe you think she is a wonderful person, maybe you think the 9/10 yr old is solely to blame - whatever you think - why would you put your children at risk when this person has a track record of using bad judgment? Even if the baby would have died anyway - any REASONABLE person would have called 911 - or I don't know the neighborhood - maybe they would have run to the nearest neighbor for help - they would have done something other than keep dialing a phone that no one was answering...and if you think she panicked and didn't know what else to do - do you want someone like that responsible for YOUR child? Unfortunately the Ryder's learned the hard way - you on the other hand are making an informed choice. And to say that you are not affected by the death of a child at the hands of another child...how can you NOT be affected by that? Are you human?
No, I have not been affected by this and neither have my chilren, Point being that the other person is complaining about her children being affected and blah, blah, blah.. but they are the one's responsible for utilizing Dottie as a sitter and continued to utilize her, paid her for her services, and continued to do so until the tragic event. So what they are saying is... She was okay for them at that time, but then something occurs and now you want to get counseling? Please..if you didn't worry about it then, why are you worried about it now? They are trying to make a tragic event involve them, for which it does not involve them at all. They choose the sitter, they are probably just upset because they are paying double for childcare now!
Get a LIFE

Greencastle, PA

#86 Jun 2, 2011
Fulton County wrote:
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Why anyone would leave their children to be cared for by a person who has proven to be irresponsible if for no other reason than not calling 911 in an emergency is beyond me. Maybe you think she is a wonderful person, maybe you think the 9/10 yr old is solely to blame - whatever you think - why would you put your children at risk when this person has a track record of using bad judgment? Even if the baby would have died anyway - any REASONABLE person would have called 911 - or I don't know the neighborhood - maybe they would have run to the nearest neighbor for help - they would have done something other than keep dialing a phone that no one was answering...and if you think she panicked and didn't know what else to do - do you want someone like that responsible for YOUR child? Unfortunately the Ryder's learned the hard way - you on the other hand are making an informed choice. And to say that you are not affected by the death of a child at the hands of another child...how can you NOT be affected by that? Are you human?
And Dottie never proved to be unresponsible at any time when my children were at her home. They were taken care of, and half the time did not want to come home because they loved it there. I am not saying that everything was done properly in the situation, the only thing she did not do which everyone questions is why she didn't call 9-1-1. Other than that she had no issues with 28 yrs. of babysitting. Was it wrong to have the child downstairs to sleep, No, the child napped there everyday. And why would there be reason to believe that anything would occur when he had napped in the same place since he was 2 months old. I would not think that laying a child down for a nap as normal that anything would occur out of the ordinary. It was the child who went in and did the damage, and the child caused the trauma, then lied about it. The child knew the rules of the sitter. She was quick to tattle on every other child at the home throughout the day, but wow..how she didn't tell the truth about herself that day.
enough already

Greencastle, PA

#87 Jun 2, 2011
civil sit wrote:
<quoted text>I must share this with Dottie, my children are afraid to go to the babysitters now, others who entrusted you with their children should seek counseling for their children as well as the parents. Please seek help and send the bills to Dottie, I am and Iím talking to several others, the damage done to the minds of the other children there is horrible. We parents of children Dottie was to be babysitting need to get together and seek help for our children. I am not sure who all of the parents were, it would be nice if someone arranged for us all to get together.
Yea why dont we all get together so when you sit there and say yes my kids went there and after that day all of sudden they need theropy, i would love for us to meet so then i could smack you and maybe knock some sense into you for the fact that you chose to take your kids there and did so till that happened now all of a sudden because of dottie your kids need therpy please get a life they probaly need it from having a mom like you with no sense half the kids dottie watched were in need of help because of there parents, they were brought there dirty hungry and everything and the lady hardly charged shit to watch kids but yet did so much fed the children breakfast lunch and some of them even dinner plus snacks in between while hardly getting paid because half the parents had a million excuses why they couldnt pay for the week and yet dottie was still there the following monday for your children/child. you guys all make me sick but hey some of you are only here to try and make yourself look good or to somehow find a way to try and make money off dottie please the ryders took there kids to her for almost 3 years they never once had a problem dottie had those 2 kids from 6am till sometimes 5pm and the baby went to bed between 7pm and 8pm and they live at least 45 minutes from dotties but yet dottie is the only one you can bad mouth makes me sick to think she was good enough to watch your kids for nothing but now you wanna say stupid shit.
Get a LIFE

Greencastle, PA

#88 Jun 3, 2011
enough already wrote:
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Yea why dont we all get together so when you sit there and say yes my kids went there and after that day all of sudden they need theropy, i would love for us to meet so then i could smack you and maybe knock some sense into you for the fact that you chose to take your kids there and did so till that happened now all of a sudden because of dottie your kids need therpy please get a life they probaly need it from having a mom like you with no sense half the kids dottie watched were in need of help because of there parents, they were brought there dirty hungry and everything and the lady hardly charged **** to watch kids but yet did so much fed the children breakfast lunch and some of them even dinner plus snacks in between while hardly getting paid because half the parents had a million excuses why they couldnt pay for the week and yet dottie was still there the following monday for your children/child. you guys all make me sick but hey some of you are only here to try and make yourself look good or to somehow find a way to try and make money off dottie please the ryders took there kids to her for almost 3 years they never once had a problem dottie had those 2 kids from 6am till sometimes 5pm and the baby went to bed between 7pm and 8pm and they live at least 45 minutes from dotties but yet dottie is the only one you can bad mouth makes me sick to think she was good enough to watch your kids for nothing but now you wanna say stupid ****.
Thank you!!! Well said!!
zzz

York, PA

#89 Jun 3, 2011
shipmommy wrote:
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I do not care if someone feels they need to call me a name in every statement so be it, I just get sick of you people thinking shes so innocent. I run down on this child because while all of you guys sit here and say she did not know better well yes i do believe she may have not intended on killing the baby but she did know that it could hurt a baby or anyone for that matter, so I don't feel bad for her, and I think they should investigate into her home life because maybe there is something there that has made the 10 year old the way she is today. But im not s trooper or the judge and all I know is what everyone else knows bits and pieces, because NONE of us will ever know the whole truth.
Exactly you only know bits and pieces. The 7 yr old has changed her story. It even said that in the newspaper. She was coached into saying what she did. How in the world does she even remember that long ago? As for the 10 yr olds family they are good people. Maybe these actions were seen at the sitters house before.
zzz

York, PA

#90 Jun 3, 2011
Get a LIFE wrote:
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No, I have not been affected by this and neither have my chilren, Point being that the other person is complaining about her children being affected and blah, blah, blah.. but they are the one's responsible for utilizing Dottie as a sitter and continued to utilize her, paid her for her services, and continued to do so until the tragic event. So what they are saying is... She was okay for them at that time, but then something occurs and now you want to get counseling? Please..if you didn't worry about it then, why are you worried about it now? They are trying to make a tragic event involve them, for which it does not involve them at all. They choose the sitter, they are probably just upset because they are paying double for childcare now!
You get what you pay for! So if are saying she was cheap than that speaks for itself. Alot can go on behind closed doors once the parents are at work.
zzz

York, PA

#91 Jun 3, 2011
Get a LIFE wrote:
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And Dottie never proved to be unresponsible at any time when my children were at her home. They were taken care of, and half the time did not want to come home because they loved it there. I am not saying that everything was done properly in the situation, the only thing she did not do which everyone questions is why she didn't call 9-1-1. Other than that she had no issues with 28 yrs. of babysitting. Was it wrong to have the child downstairs to sleep, No, the child napped there everyday. And why would there be reason to believe that anything would occur when he had napped in the same place since he was 2 months old. I would not think that laying a child down for a nap as normal that anything would occur out of the ordinary. It was the child who went in and did the damage, and the child caused the trauma, then lied about it. The child knew the rules of the sitter. She was quick to tattle on every other child at the home throughout the day, but wow..how she didn't tell the truth about herself that day.
Did you ever think maybe the kids told on each other because Dottie wasnt watching/checking on them enough? Thats why her grandkids were there to be her eyes & ears until of course they did something wrong . Ohh wait a minute they never did wrong it was always the other children
enough already

Greencastle, PA

#92 Jun 4, 2011
zzz wrote:
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Did you ever think maybe the kids told on each other because Dottie wasnt watching/checking on them enough? Thats why her grandkids were there to be her eyes & ears until of course they did something wrong . Ohh wait a minute they never did wrong it was always the other children
Her grandchildren were not there that day and if they ever were there they got in trouble just as well i have seen that myself, and as for to 10 year old there were plenty of time dottie told her mom and things she did but her mom always had a excuse as to why she did it or whatever because she thinks shes perfect and her child does no wrong well guess what her thinking and bringing her child up like that didnt turn out so well and no one seem to complain about dottie not charging much while she sat days on end with the kids even the ones who did not listen. that 10 year old used to lie through her teeth about every kid there and no she threaten the 7 year old not to tell dottie this 7 year old is a tiny little girl who was scared of the 10 year old three times her side there are no excuses no matter how many times you want to bad mouth dottie this is the 10 year olds fault
enough already

Greencastle, PA

#93 Jun 4, 2011
zzz wrote:
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Exactly you only know bits and pieces. The 7 yr old has changed her story. It even said that in the newspaper. She was coached into saying what she did. How in the world does she even remember that long ago? As for the 10 yr olds family they are good people. Maybe these actions were seen at the sitters house before.
the parents may seem like good parents but things can also happen behind there closed doors

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