Bill would give Pennsylvania sheriffs...

Bill would give Pennsylvania sheriffs full arrest powers

There are 40 comments on the Public Opinion story from Mar 11, 2008, titled Bill would give Pennsylvania sheriffs full arrest powers. In it, Public Opinion reports that:

About 100 sheriffs and deputies -- including several from Lebanon County -- rallied in the Capitol Tuesday for a bill to give them law-enforcement powers similar to police.

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Lil John

Landisburg, PA

#1 Mar 12, 2008
"'Backers of Dally's bill say it's needed in rural areas with few municipal police, and would restore powers that sheriffs once had."'

Does anyone know the reason why they lost the powers they once had?

"Backers of Dally's bill say it's needed in rural areas with few municipal police"
Don't understand the reasoning that they think it will help in rural areas. Are they going to dispatch a deputy when you call 911.
That could only happen if they hire more deputies < HMMMM -- more taxes, county bosses would have their own police force HMMM -- maybe that's why they lost the power to arrest in the first place.
Mort

Merchantville, NJ

#2 Mar 12, 2008
Just like Sheriff Joe Arpaio in AZ, the Franklin Co. sheriff could arrest ILLEGAL ALIENS and turn them over to ICE. That's an improvement!
Another question

Wilmington, DE

#3 Mar 12, 2008
THis a great idea so these guys can arrest someone when needed, but I dont think that, and Im guessing they would agree, there are going to be deputies actively looking for trouble..they are just as busy. So anyone that thinks this is going to get more police in rural areas is crazy. THis is only going to happen if there are more deputies...and that will only happen if there are more taxes. Franklin Co Deputies are top notch...so why not?
LOL

Waldo, OH

#4 Mar 12, 2008
Top Notch you say? Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
STRAIGHTALK

Manahawkin, NJ

#5 Mar 12, 2008
Not a good idea. They would abuse their "new power" in many, many places. This means all Deputies, not just those chosen by Franklin Co. MORT- They would not allow that in Chambersburg and Franklin Co. They will just arrest more citizens for less and less. This would help complete the transition to the police state the US has become. Does Barney get a bullet?
Stinkeye

York, PA

#6 Mar 12, 2008
Maryland criminals who know they risk detection and arrest by county sheriff deputies in MD - but don't have to worry about them in PA -- applaud the confusion and questioning about this issue.

Just pass this damn bill.

“ONE LOVE...ONE HORSE”

Since: Dec 07

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#7 Mar 12, 2008
STRAIGHTALK wrote:
Not a good idea. They would abuse their "new power" in many, many places. This means all Deputies, not just those chosen by Franklin Co. MORT- They would not allow that in Chambersburg and Franklin Co. They will just arrest more citizens for less and less. This would help complete the transition to the police state the US has become. Does Barney get a bullet?
What would this have meant relative the recent "Guns At The Polls" issue that involved a constable...???

“ONE LOVE...ONE HORSE”

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#8 Mar 12, 2008
Lil John wrote:
"'Backers of Dally's bill say it's needed in rural areas with few municipal police, and would restore powers that sheriffs once had."'
Does anyone know the reason why they lost the powers they once had?
There used to be something around here called the "Mid Cumberland Valley Regional Police Force" (or something to that effect)- which I think was a cooperative effort between all the local departments...not sure what happened to that - but it's been awhile since I've heard it mentioned.

Just wondering the sheriffs powers were reduced when Mid Cumberland was created...???
truth

Middleburg, FL

#9 Mar 12, 2008
Deputies have a six month training just like a police officer, and before you judge people take a look around chambersburg there is a lot crimes that we don't always see. It is amazing to me that anybody would complain in having more police protection.... there is only so much the borough police and the state police can do. I believe there are only 5 state troopers assigned to Chambersburg, and the borough police can only deal with the Borough. If Sheriff Deputies can help in the entire Franklin County why not. If you go to Virginia, West Virginia, and Maryland you see Sheriff Deputies doing police work just like any other law enforment agency.
Fall Slope

Waldo, OH

#10 Mar 12, 2008
Constables are not the same as sheriffs or deputies

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#11 Mar 12, 2008
Fall Slope wrote:
Constables are not the same as sheriffs or deputies
thanks...was wondering that...
Geez

Du Bois, PA

#12 Mar 12, 2008
Other states have done this as well, that way they can say we put X number more police on the streets without spending a dime. What they don't tell you is these extra officers still have the same work load and don't have the time to provide police service to the community. Just another way to fool people into thinking something was done when this does not amount to anything but political noise.
Anonymous

Pittston, PA

#13 Mar 12, 2008
Why do PSP and/or the PA Chief's concerned? Afraid that they won't be able to hog all of the federal, state, and local grant money to themselves? I know for a fact that the street patrol officers don't care, and in fact, would be glad for the help. It's the prima donnas above Sgt. that think that they are better then the Sheriffs. Police is police is police. The more the better.
truth

Middleburg, FL

#14 Mar 12, 2008
Anonymous wrote:
Why do PSP and/or the PA Chief's concerned? Afraid that they won't be able to hog all of the federal, state, and local grant money to themselves? I know for a fact that the street patrol officers don't care, and in fact, would be glad for the help. It's the prima donnas above Sgt. that think that they are better then the Sheriffs. Police is police is police. The more the better.
AMEN to that, it is all politics between the borough and the state police. It's not about the citizens it's about them, but if we want this to happen we have to stand behind our Sheriff.
Dude

Chambersburg, PA

#16 Mar 12, 2008
Do Sheirff's need an The PA ACT 120?
Lil John

Landisburg, PA

#17 Mar 12, 2008
Sheriffs are usally based out of the county seat.

How does this translate into rural protection, as this idea was one of the basic reasons for the proposed new law according to the sponsor?
CNH

Chambersburg, PA

#18 Mar 12, 2008
There are far more than 5 State Trooper stationed at the Chambersburg Station. There are atleast 20 and may be up to 40.
Greg Rotz

United States

#19 Mar 12, 2008
A Talking Horse wrote:
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What would this have meant relative the recent "Guns At The Polls" issue that involved a constable...???
Absolutely nothing. Constables have the power to arrest on sight of the commission of a crime. Since I was breaking no law, and the Constable confirmed as much, a decision to arrest me anyhow would have resulted in the need for him to deal with charges that would have been filed against him for false arrest. He knew the right thing to do (based on the law), and he did it. Doing otherwise would have been a very bad choice, attracted more attention that he wished to deal with, and may have cost him his position as Constable.
Ret-Fed

United States

#20 Mar 12, 2008
CNH wrote:
There are far more than 5 State Trooper stationed at the Chambersburg Station. There are atleast 20 and may be up to 40.
Actually the Chambersburg PA State Police station has 73 officers. This bill is in the judiciary committee where it will probably remain since there is opposition from the PSP and PA Chiefs of Police. Deputy sheriffs in PA are significantly different than deputy sheriffs in Maryland.
Mike P

Newville, PA

#21 Mar 12, 2008
The entrance standards for deputy sheriffs are not nearly as stringent as they are for police officers. If the sheriffs deputies want full police power, then they should be held to the same standards as police officers.

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