Morgan Ingram was not murdered nor stalked.

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#1 Nov 27, 2012
I created this forum so everyone who Toni Ingram decided to censor off her blog, can comment here. I watched the Dr,Phil show like many others, and I have read Police Reports, and other things online about the case in general. First off, we all can agree that Morgan parents are both grieving, and that's normal, and my heart do go out to them. I hope someday that the mother can accept that her daughter either committed suicide or overdosed by accident. However, I do not believe that she was murdered or stalked. I ran across some photo's of Morgan that someone posted on photobucket, a album that her mother removed after her death, which is strange. It shows Morgan being a ordinary person having fun, and maybe a little too much fun at times. So im guessing when you go on national t.v to talk about your daughter as if she's a angel, it's normal to wanted to delete all her personal items that may make people think, which her photo's shouldn't have anything to do with her death, since everyone entitled to have problems. The paranoia comes from the mom from everything I have read. I personally believe that the mother drove Morgan over the edge. There are many types of stalking, and I can tell you that the stalking don't even add up. A stalker will follow you everywhere, not only when you're home. A stalker will call you, flatten your car tires, break your car windows, and so much more. I think Toni Ingram supporters are enabling her crazy behavior, and she needs to stop. Throwing around the word murder amongst innocent individuals is wrong, and im surprised she haven't been sued yet. Where Toni goes wrong at, is she contradicts herself alot, and her blogs don't add up if you read the whole thing. Be careful with being stating a honest opinion on her blog, she's taking screenshots, so im guessing she's thinking everyone is suspicious, and possibly get alot of innocent people mixed up in some stuff they may not want to be in. So I opened up this page, for all the people who have common sense. Lets all be adults, and discuss this case like adults.
Joe

Aurora, CO

#2 Nov 28, 2012
I’ve been reading the blog for a few months now and it started out as being very riveting….especially the “stalker” standing in the driveway but it really fizzled after that. This stalker does nothing but make noises on a window. Makes no footprints (except for 1 print 1 time), leaves no evidence and somehow hiding on the roof is the explanation for it all. They have 2 dogs that somehow don’t have a clue there is someone on the roof and does not bark at a person (shadow) standing a few feet away. There is pot pipes and alcohol in her room “that aren’t hers” even though she has a medicinal marijuana license. Her only source for cash is babysitting that I know of…..this might explain the missing jewelry. The only other footage is a person walking across some grass and a “guy” running across the driveway which to me looks like the headlights of a passing car reflecting off the wet street. So what else do we have? The camera’s never catch a thing but one day they are all taken down and lying in the grass…..my inner child tells me this is the work of a stalker or perhaps a midnight visitor that Morgan does not want caught on camera? I was a teenager/young adult once and know how it works. My theory is that the noises on the window are hallucinations. I have experienced them too as I drift off to sleep especially if I was a little worried about burglars and such. Mamma is pretty freaked out about the whole thing and Dad is just trying to catch the guy. I don’t think he existed except in overactive imaginations.
What I can’t explain is the guy in the driveway. It could be that he was a nosy neighbor wanting to see what the cops were there for. Can’t explain the damaged camera either; however, with the lack of any real concrete proof, I’d have to say the guy in the driveway was not the stalker.
justsayin

Boulder, CO

#3 Nov 30, 2012
I have been reading Toni Ingrams blog, I do feel sorry for anyone who looses a loved one. I do think somebody was messing with Morgan, but not to the extent it has been portrayed, come on how many of us had friends wanting to go party throw rocks at our window, how many of us didn't party like rock stars at some point in our lives, experiment with drugs and alcohol. To buffer everything Morgan followed as interests makes Toni look really bad, and her putting in full names of who she believes is guilty is horribal, I have to admit and apologize I Facebook creeped those ppl she accuses they appear like just a bunch of kids who like to party doesn't make them killers. I am worried about them, if they bullied and scared her to the point of killing herself then holly shit that is messed up and then yes they should be in some trouble. but murder??? I highly doubt it. Some of the posts in her blog have these kids convicted, burned at the stake you name it, they have some very serious allegations against them. I really think the cops can't be that effing stupid they are portrayed as a bunch of idiots running around like chimps, REALLY. Why on earth would an entire community, neighbors, friends, cops, stalkers and coroner's all be in a conspiracy against one 20 year old girl, there was also mention of making Morgan leave the area for a while, and as controlling as Toni seems to be, Im surprised she didn't walk Morgan to a seat on a plane. OMG if my mom met me in my driveway with a can of pepper spray, I would have had her committed for being so paranoid. I think the Ingram family suffered a very devastating death of a family member, I hope this ends soon, either way, if it was murder then I hope it gets solved if it was suicide or accidental OD, I hope Morgans mother can let her daughter RIP. This is just out of control at this point. The Ingrams have made a name for themselves, and unfortanantly the group they are accusing, how sad those kids are never gonna be able to escape this, as long as there is Google this mess is splattered everywhere on the internet. And in case anyone cares I am in no way connected to any of the players in this mess, I am just trying to be objective for both sides.
srb

Camano Island, WA

#4 Dec 17, 2012
This such a tragic story. My heart breaks for Morgan's family. The Ingram family is trying to accept the loss of their daughter. No parent should have to do that. However, what they are doing to the people they are accusing is wrong, unjustified and verging on being criminal. I would not blame any of the accused people if they pursued criminal charges against the Ingrams. Their appearance on Dr. Phil was just sad, and actually, I think Dr. Phil should not have run with the show, or should have brought up the inconsistent statements versus the known facts. Toni said that her daughter had never taken Elavil. But she did. She said she didn't have any in her room. But she did. They said she never took Flexeril, but apparently she had a prescription for that, too. The police state they picked up two prescription bottles. That were prescribed to Morgan. Flexeril is often prescribed with Elavil and both medicines are most often prescribed for pain. They said they never had those drugs in the house. But they did. Morgan also had a medicinal marijuana prescription, yet they deny she had any and denied that the pipe could be Morgan's. And they allowed their daughter, who just turned 20, to have wine in her room? That seems very odd. I question the stalking, and the argument that the 'stalker' used the roof to access Morgan's window and to hide does not ring true. Someone walking around on the roof as much as this person is being accused of doing would make all kinds of sounds and should have alerted both dogs. As someone else said, how credible is it that everyone in the Sheriff's Office and the Coroner could be wrong or are all involved in a conspiracy. I am the grandmother of 5 granddaughters and I take their safety very seriously, but this case does not ring true. It's all just really sad.
mary

Auckland, New Zealand

#5 Apr 1, 2013
You people don't know what actually happened, not many people do. None of you guys are being very respectful. You guys are acting like you know everything and that Morgan's parents were delusional. Stay out of things that aren't your buissness. Who knows maybe it was murder maybe it wasn't but there is not enough evidence to support either side.
Irish rose

Ireland

#6 Apr 4, 2013
NYCMaster30 wrote:
I created this forum so everyone who Toni Ingram decided to censor off her blog, can comment here. I watched the Dr,Phil show like many others, and I have read Police Reports, and other things online about the case in general. First off, we all can agree that Morgan parents are both grieving, and that's normal, and my heart do go out to them. I hope someday that the mother can accept that her daughter either committed suicide or overdosed by accident. However, I do not believe that she was murdered or stalked. I ran across some photo's of Morgan that someone posted on photobucket, a album that her mother removed after her death, which is strange. It shows Morgan being a ordinary person having fun, and maybe a little too much fun at times. So im guessing when you go on national t.v to talk about your daughter as if she's a angel, it's normal to wanted to delete all her personal items that may make people think, which her photo's shouldn't have anything to do with her death, since everyone entitled to have problems. The paranoia comes from the mom from everything I have read. I personally believe that the mother drove Morgan over the edge. There are many types of stalking, and I can tell you that the stalking don't even add up. A stalker will follow you everywhere, not only when you're home. A stalker will call you, flatten your car tires, break your car windows, and so much more. I think Toni Ingram supporters are enabling her crazy behavior, and she needs to stop. Throwing around the word murder amongst innocent individuals is wrong, and im surprised she haven't been sued yet. Where Toni goes wrong at, is she contradicts herself alot, and her blogs don't add up if you read the whole thing. Be careful with being stating a honest opinion on her blog, she's taking screenshots, so im guessing she's thinking everyone is suspicious, and possibly get alot of innocent people mixed up in some stuff they may not want to be in. So I opened up this page, for all the people who have common sense. Lets all be adults, and discuss this case like adults.
Please learn proper English grammar and check your comments for errors. It is very aggravating to try to read a comment that is so full of grammatical errors. Perhaps instead of reading so much about this case, your time would be better spent taking an writing course.
who cares

St. John's, Canada

#7 Apr 9, 2013
Irish rose wrote:
<quoted text>Please learn proper English grammar and check your comments for errors. It is very aggravating to try to read a comment that is so full of grammatical errors. Perhaps instead of reading so much about this case, your time would be better spent taking an writing course.
Who gives a shit? It's more aggravating to see grammar nazis on the internet than people who occasionally misspell things. Just because somebody makes spelling errors, it does not discredit their opinion. That paragraph was completely readable. Knock it off.
Occasional poster

Poway, CA

#10 Jun 15, 2013
Irish rose wrote:
<quoted text>Please learn proper English grammar and check your comments for errors. It is very aggravating to try to read a comment that is so full of grammatical errors. Perhaps instead of reading so much about this case, your time would be better spent taking an writing course.
So far the posts on this forum are very respectful, articulate and unbias.(With the exception of yours.) I find the post that you referenced very coherent. I would like to point out that you also made a grammatical error: it is not "an writing class" but should be "a writing class."
Motherof1

Apex, NC

#11 Jul 10, 2013
I feel and for this mother of Morgan. She is inside blaming herself for her daughters death, but on the outside blaming anyone and everyone who has come in contact with her daughter. Seems Morgan came from an affluent family/area in CO and that has a lot to do with this. I don't think Morgan intended on killing herself. It's sad she probably felt like she had no one to talk to. She seemed like a pretty chill girl. She just wanted her mom to back off but at the same time care, truly care about her. My opinion is that she came home after some drinking, mom greeted her in the driveway, made Morgan upset. She probably went into her room and took some pills to help her sleep and it ended up being a bad mix of prescription pills and drinking.
Her father gives me the impression he is going along with the mother but knows the real truth that this was not a murder. This is a sad case of two parents that have a lot of guilt because they were not there for their daughter. Very sad, had this girl had one person in her life that she could have bonded with, she would still be here. Her mom is in total denial and needs help dealing with how her daughter truly died. May Morgan RIP and ill pray for her family that they too can find peace soon. I also pray for the families this mother is accusing. May they find peace and hopefully Morgans mother will back off.
starrie_eyes

New Bremen, OH

#12 Jul 10, 2013
I also watched the Dr Phil show today which was of course the episode interviewing Morgans parents as well as the girl they are accusing of their daughters murder. Heres what I caught from the show.
Morgans parents are in their grieving process and they did not have any justice served to them from our system as this case was never actually investigated. So I do feel like they deserve an investigation, thats what our system is suppose to be there for. If were anybodys daughter on here they would want the same.
I do agree that it was not ok for them to point fingers at Brook who is as of right now considered to be innocent. However just by watching this episode I feel a lie detector test was needed to prove her innocence. To me she seemed nervous and scared. She may not have been the actual "murderer" but I think she knows more than what she is saying.
I do not feel it was suicide and I do not feel the parents had anything to do with it.
I hope and pray that time will heal the pain of the loss of Morgan to all involved.
I also hope and pray the family gets the answers they deserve so that Morgan may rest in peace.
Monarch

Tunkhannock, PA

#13 Jul 10, 2013
Starrie: I think anyone would be nervous, upset and scared if they were sitting on national television being accused of murder. What do you think? That does not mean she had anything to do with Morgan's death.
Blanca

New York, NY

#14 Jul 10, 2013
The mother does not want to face the fact that her daughter wasn't the innocent, fun loving girl she wanted her to be. I have a 20 year old and can relate, but the drugs, the medical pot license, etc..... This is not a healthy lifestyle or a sign of an emotionally content human. Also, reading the police report provides insight. This is copied from that report:

That two to three weeks ago, Morgan said life isn’t worth living but stated that
she couldn’t kill herself.
Page: 12 of 19

Enough said. A defamation suit should be considered by Brooks family.

Since: Jun 11

Tampa

#15 Jul 10, 2013
Blanca wrote:
The mother does not want to face the fact that her daughter wasn't the innocent, fun loving girl she wanted her to be. I have a 20 year old and can relate, but the drugs, the medical pot license, etc..... This is not a healthy lifestyle or a sign of an emotionally content human. Also, reading the police report provides insight. This is copied from that report:
That two to three weeks ago, Morgan said life isn’t worth living but stated that
she couldn’t kill herself.
Page: 12 of 19
Enough said. A defamation suit should be considered by Brooks family.
Finally intelligent reasoning
Amy

Ypsilanti, MI

#16 Jul 10, 2013
I have a very narcissistic, self centered mother. Toni shares some of her characteristics. After watching the show, my personal opinion is that Toni believes her daughter was murdered because it would absolve her of any blame in raising a less than perfect child. This has nothing at all to do with Morgan, and is all about Toni. Her vehement denial of there being a "fight" or even "words" between she and Morgan to Dr. Phil was a huge red flag. No, no they couldn't have fought because Toni is the perfect mother, and therefore raised a perfect person, one who would never commit suicide, use drugs or alcohol and one that was so amazing, someone stalked and killed her. I feel for Morgan. The truth is likely that she did commit suicide and it likely wasn't such a perfect life behind closed doors with Toni.
Saoirse

Everett, WA

#17 Jul 10, 2013
Sad situation. As a mom myself, I know how much we want for our children, and how hard it is sometimes to learn hard truths about their real selves. It gets easier, but I had many times where a short period of foolishness, irresponsibility, or ass-hattedness by one of my kids tempted me to complete denial. So much easier than wondering where I might have played into or contributed to their behavior. To me, Toni sounds like many parents I see who will practically twist reality into a pretzel to avoid confronting inconvenient or uncomfortable issues with their kids. No one thing she says is unreasonable or improbable, but piled together, her version of her daughter's life begins to sound unrealistic. The sad part is that by conveniently explaining away all issues brought up surrounding Morgan's life and choices so completely, Toni might be her own worst enemy. It gets easier to disregard the real points she may be making, if those points are buried in a wall of complete denial about Morgan being less than Pollyanna perfect.
Saoirse

Everett, WA

#18 Jul 10, 2013
Amy wrote:
I have a very narcissistic, self centered mother. Toni shares some of her characteristics. After watching the show, my personal opinion is that Toni believes her daughter was murdered because it would absolve her of any blame in raising a less than perfect child. This has nothing at all to do with Morgan, and is all about Toni. Her vehement denial of there being a "fight" or even "words" between she and Morgan to Dr. Phil was a huge red flag. No, no they couldn't have fought because Toni is the perfect mother, and therefore raised a perfect person, one who would never commit suicide, use drugs or alcohol and one that was so amazing, someone stalked and killed her. I feel for Morgan. The truth is likely that she did commit suicide and it likely wasn't such a perfect life behind closed doors with Toni.
I think you said it well. That is the sense I got from the mother's demeanor also. Has to be someone else plotting against their daughter, because the alternative is impossible to admit. Even the mom's voice, as she drowned out everyone else, had the same note of desperation as when a small child claps their hands on their ears and sings or makes noise to shut out what they don't want to deal with.
Jeffers

Kansas City, MO

#19 Jul 11, 2013
Toni seems like a perfect mother to me. No way could her daughter have committed suicide. It is easier to believe this stalking nonsense rather than facing the truth.
ness

Salisbury, NC

#20 Jul 31, 2013
I have watched Dr.Phil and also read the blog Toni has written.At first I was angry and believed Toni completely but now I think she is a mother who lost her child to suicide and she just cannot come to terms with the truth. I honestly do not even believe Morgan was stalked and I really don't believe Brooke or her father had anything to do with Morgans death.
I understand Toni needs the investigation reopened so maybe she can get some closure BUT she should be sued by Brooke and her father and maybe even get a restraining order put on her for stalking them. Accusing Brooke of murder and using her blog to smear her could very well have put Brooke in harms way and should not be tolerated. I am sorry for Toni's loss but if Brooke were my daughter I would be livid by what she is doing to Brooke. Sounds like our laws aren't protecting the innocent ones.
Reno

Redmond, OR

#21 Aug 14, 2013
Your grammar is not any better. What is an writing course?
Reno

Redmond, OR

#22 Aug 14, 2013
I agree with those that say the mother just can't admit to herself that she must share in the blame. It is sad for someone to die but I believe like many others that it was an accident or suicide.
All their so called 'evidence' has simple explanations. Footprints outside the window, a friend passing drugs or alcohol to her because her mother basically had her in prison. That is why I'll bet their was NOT a camera right on her window as she did not want her parents to see who was visiting in the night. The person walking across the lawn, taking the short way home. The person running down the street, what, nobody should be running down their street. All their so called 'evidence' is very explainable. Couple that with a Marijuana card & pipe, cocaine use, alcohol abuse & other drugs.

The mother said no drugs in her stomach so she thinks they shot her up with them. Well as far as I know to shoot up it has to be intravenous & I think it would be very hard to do that to anyone that was awake.

I feel bad for them but these blogs of the mother are endangering other people. The neighbors should sue & take her to the cleaners or get her committed to a mental hospital.

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