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dissatisfied

United States

#1 Apr 17, 2012
If any of you pill\meth heads in the bullitt county area are in search of a place to take your stolen goods, please stop by your local J and Js pawn shop they are happy to receive stolen merchandise no questions asked! Not only will they gladly take the hot product off of your hands but they will fill your palm with cold hard cash so you can get your fix! And then, wait for it cause here's the kicker, when the poor bastard who's house you robbed goes into the pawn shop with a police report, the receipt for the merchandise that you stole from them, and the serial numbers to match the property; the pawn shop owner will make them pay your loan off that you received in exchange for their stolen shit. In other words the person you robbed has to buy the item you stole and then they have to buy it back again from the scum bag crook who let you pawn something that was obviously not yours in the first place. The guys got a pretty smart establishment there he keeps the dopeheads in business and they keep him in business and at the end of the day the good people who work and earn an honest living are the ones getting f*cked. Thanks J and J for all your help to Shepherdsville!
dissatisfied

El Monte, CA

#3 Apr 17, 2012
As was my understanding. But even the police say I can pay him for my stuff and then the guy who robbed me is responsible for restitution for the money I'm out. I don't know what to do. The police came after I found my own stuff at the pawn shop and he still has my stuff at the pawn shop waiting for me to come and pay him what he loaned the suspect against my merchandise. The only thing the police did was made him put a hold on the items so that they can only be picked up by me and cannot be resold.
dissatisfied

El Monte, CA

#5 Apr 17, 2012
Yes they know who he is. He pawned them yesterday morning and I came home to find my house robbed around 3 yesterday afternoon. I then on a lark decided to go to a couple of area pawn shops just to see if anyone knew anything. Once I got to J and Js I called the officer who came to my home to report the robbery and he came to the pawn shop. Then after I had picked up the police report and gone to the county attorney's office I returned to the pawn shop this afternoon. The owner informed me he would be glad to give me all of the items but I would have to pay what he had paid the suspect for them. He also informed me that he "was doing me a favor" by buying the stolen merchandise because without him I "wouldn't know where my stuff was or have a leg to stand on in court." He told me I had to have a document signed by the judge releasing the merchandise otherwise he was "holding it for evidence." This made no sense to me because he is not a law enforcment official so how does he have the right to hold evidence of anything? But if the police won't help, I don't know what else I could do but pay for my own stuff that I have already paid for in the first place. Seems fishy to me but I'm at a loss as to where to go from here.
dissatisfied

United States

#7 Apr 17, 2012
Domina Mastema wrote:
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I'd be calling the chief and the mayor. There is something very wrong with that.
I assume they have arrested or gotten warrants for the thief?
Yes, that's correct they issued a warrant today as of about 1pm. I don't know that they've arrested him yet.
feel4you

El Monte, CA

#8 Apr 17, 2012
Seriously, I went through the exact same situation with the same pawn shop just a few months ago. I tried everything to get a computer and a gun that my son stole out of my house and hocked for drug money. In the end, he was charged and convicted and I still had to pay that man for my own property. Did you deal with the dark complected guy with black hair? He was incredibly rude to me and was of no help whatsoever to the police investigation. Part of running a business like the one he's in is asking people questions and doing some investigative work into where they got the stuff they're pawning. Its sad to think that someone like him can stay in business. I'm sorry to hear about your stuff, best of luck to you and I hope you get it back soon.
dissatisfied

El Monte, CA

#10 Apr 17, 2012
Thanks for the advice. I think I'm going to have to take a different approach because if what you're saying is true then a whole lot of people have not done their jobs correctly in the last twenty four hours. I thought this all sounded like bullsh*t but sometimes you just need to hear from someone else that you aren't crazy! Thanks again.
james

El Monte, CA

#12 Apr 17, 2012
If this is the pawn shop on 44 past moby dick, then yeah that guy is definitely gonna do what he can to f*ck you outta your sh*t. Someone at a party took my class ring and sold it to him. When I found out I went in there and he said I was too late and they had scrapped it for gold. Who buys a class ring with someones name on it unless the person selling it is the name on the ring? That guys a douche
Some ppl

New Albany, IN

#13 Apr 18, 2012
I know he J and J pawn is a crook. Seen him somewhere, where he should not of been.

“Dirka”

Since: Jan 12

Ft.Eustis, VA

#14 Apr 18, 2012
You will need to report the serial number on the police report. If the item in the pawn shop matches the serial number you have on your police report, then the pawn shop must contact the authorities, and provide them with a copy of the identification of the person who pawned the item. Some states require that the pawn shop give you your item back, unfortunately in most states, the pawn shop will only have to offer the item to you for the same price the item was pawned for. After that you will have to seek restitution for reimbursement through the court system.

I know KY has a law that pawn shops have to report the days "take-in" to the police with all identifying marks included to see if they are stolen. However when my parents house was broken into by 3 young hoods (who were dumb enough to leave their insurance card in our driveway and fingerprints all over the house) my mother and father were able to find some things in local pawn shops in Bullitt and Jefferson county. The pawn shops gave the items back to my parents and then went after the people who pawned them for restitution.

However in this digital age you have a few other options after you get your stuff back. File a claim with the BBB, yelp and other social media outlets to speak out about your issues with this pawn broker.

Chances are if you show this pawn broker you truly mean business he will find a way to make it work. As its not your fault he bought stolen merchandise as he has to have their identification to have a legal pawn.

Maybe contact a lawyer and see what they say as I am just going off what I have read and know from previous experience.
dissatisfied

United States

#15 Apr 18, 2012
CJobe wrote:
You will need to report the serial number on the police report. If the item in the pawn shop matches the serial number you have on your police report, then the pawn shop must contact the authorities, and provide them with a copy of the identification of the person who pawned the item.
. The police report did have the serial numbers to the items he had in the pawn shop. He did not however bother to give the police a copy of the paperwork from the pawn. He just told them the name and address he had on file for the guy. Here's my thing...can this guy not be charged with receiving stolen property? And if so how does that work? Would I go press charges or would the police handle that? Thus far the couple of officers that I have spoken with have both said the same thing. Pay for my stuff and then go after the person who robbed me for restitution. I just can't see how its fair. He bought the stolen goods so from where I'm sitting he should have to turn them over to the owner and seek his own restitution against this guy. I don't see why I should be responsible for his carelessness about who or where an itemnof value came from. Its not enough that I have been robbed but now I have to actually buy my own stuff from a pawn shop?
helpusout

United States

#16 Apr 18, 2012
Some ppl wrote:
I know he J and J pawn is a crook. Seen him somewhere, where he should not of been.
. Really? Can you elaborate?

“Dirka”

Since: Jan 12

Ft.Eustis, VA

#17 Apr 18, 2012
dissatisfied wrote:
<quoted text>. The police report did have the serial numbers to the items he had in the pawn shop. He did not however bother to give the police a copy of the paperwork from the pawn. He just told them the name and address he had on file for the guy. Here's my thing...can this guy not be charged with receiving stolen property? And if so how does that work? Would I go press charges or would the police handle that? Thus far the couple of officers that I have spoken with have both said the same thing. Pay for my stuff and then go after the person who robbed me for restitution. I just can't see how its fair. He bought the stolen goods so from where I'm sitting he should have to turn them over to the owner and seek his own restitution against this guy. I don't see why I should be responsible for his carelessness about who or where an item of value came from. Its not enough that I have been robbed but now I have to actually buy my own stuff from a pawn shop?
the pawn broker should be going after the crooks. He should have turned over the paperwork to the Police along with the stolen merchandise. Then once the trial is over you should be returned said merchandise by the police. It should not be in the hands of the pawn broker. This is sadly a lack of people wanting to go through the red tape to make things right.

Chances are the pawn broker knows the law and would rather pass the work of getting money out of these turds onto you then do it himself. Call the local media outlets; they will love a story like this. If you dont mind how much is he telling you that you need to pay?* > $1000 or * < $1000?
dissatisfied

United States

#18 Apr 18, 2012
Its less than a thousand that he's trying to take me for. I did send an email to wave 3 this afternoon and I seriously hope they respond. I'm willing to do whatever is possible to have my things returned to me but I'm just not willing to buy them from someone when they rightfully belong to me. I don't think I'm being unreasonable.
curious

United States

#19 Apr 18, 2012
I have read all of the details of this thread and I am still curious and somewhat confused about why the police aren't doing more to get your stuff hfrom the pawn shop? You did their job and found your own property and they do not have the decency to go through the proper channels to retrieve the items. That's ridiculous and I'm appalled at the poor use of my tax dollars. As for mr. Pawn shop owner, if he were any kind of decent human being he could not keep your property with a clear conscience. Even if he has to incurr the full cost of the merchandise, just for the sake of morality he should have given you what is yours. I wish I knew how to help you but all I can say is ithey will never have my business if this is how they treat a victim of a crime. Good luck so sorry to hear about your troubles.
PO_BOY

Shepherdsville, KY

#20 Apr 18, 2012
A few years ago ,Shep. had a pos cop named Cunningham....he and his father opened a pawn shop on 2nd street near the courthouse.Bought stolen stuff all day long...Shep. police!! This stinks to high heaven...I would get app. with J. Wantland, he's an azz but very effective in a courtroom.He could at least point you in right direction...or contact A. General's office in Frankfort.
You can do better

United States

#21 Apr 19, 2012
why are you all so mad at him for you know thay will help you in any way thay can to but if you talk to him like that I would not help you eather I know how you fill about that I had things of mine tick to a pawn shop to at dans pawn shop and thay told me the same thing j js pawn shop told you I had to pay to get my things back so I did why because that was my things and no it don't help to go over the cops because the courts will tell you thay will make the one that tuck your things pay you back I hope yours is at lot less thin mine was I had to pay over 2000.00 dollars
you SHOULD do better

United States

#22 Apr 19, 2012
You can do better wrote:
why are you all so mad at him for you know thay will help you in any way thay can to but if you talk to him like that I would not help you eather I know how you fill about that I had things of mine tick to a pawn shop to at dans pawn shop and thay told me the same thing j js pawn shop told you I had to pay to get my things back so I did why because that was my things and no it don't help to go over the cops because the courts will tell you thay will make the one that tuck your things pay you back I hope yours is at lot less thin mine was I had to pay over 2000.00 dollars
Judging from your literacy level, I have some pretty serious doubts as to the fact that you own two thousand dollars worth of pawnable merchandise. I also doubt that your story holds any truth. I'm actually thinking you may know the guy who owns the pawn shop so this is your attempt to help defend him. Either that or you pawn hot merchandise there all the time and don't want to see him shut down because he supports your drug habit.(Which would also explain your horrendous writing skills.)

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#23 Apr 19, 2012
you SHOULD do better wrote:
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Judging from your literacy level, I have some pretty serious doubts as to the fact that you own two thousand dollars worth of pawnable merchandise. I also doubt that your story holds any truth. I'm actually thinking you may know the guy who owns the pawn shop so this is your attempt to help defend him. Either that or you pawn hot merchandise there all the time and don't want to see him shut down because he supports your drug habit.(Which would also explain your horrendous writing skills.)
My thoughts precisely.
dissatisfied

United States

#24 Apr 19, 2012
You can do better wrote:
why are you all so mad at him for you know thay will help you in any way thay can to but if you talk to him like that I would not help you eather I know how you fill about that I had things of mine tick to a pawn shop to at dans pawn shop and thay told me the same thing j js pawn shop told you I had to pay to get my things back so I did why because that was my things and no it don't help to go over the cops because the courts will tell you thay will make the one that tuck your things pay you back I hope yours is at lot less thin mine was I had to pay over 2000.00 dollars
Just for the record, I didn't speak to that man in a way that was anything outside of respectful. I was very calm and never once raised my voice in his establishment. On the other hand, he was extremely rude, sarcastic, and arrogant. Even still, I remained respectful for the sake of trying to get my stuff back. And as far as doing anything to help me out as you said in your post, he did just the opposite. He was in no way willing to help me or the police with this issue. I just felt I had to clear that up. In my frustration with the whole ordeal, I have said some less than kind words but never to him and never in his store. Anyone in their right mind would be equally as upset and aggravated as I have been.
wonderin

Louisville, KY

#25 Apr 19, 2012
Do you have homeowners insurance or renters insurance? Just wondering because they could maybe help you out with replacing your stuff or retrieving it.If nothing else they would know the laws on stolen merchandise i would think.

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