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FOOD STAMPS

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Mar 27, 2012
 

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I think everyone on food stamps should be drug tested. I also think they should make it where you have to use your finger print at the register to use your card. I know there's alot of trading fs for drugs and money. Our tax money is paying for lazy low life people to sit on there butts and collect money off the goverment. Who do you know that's one of them?

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Louisville, KY

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The only problem I have is that it becomes difficult to use this policy without harming the children of these people. I'm not sure that using a finger print is the right way to stop misuse, it would severely hurt legitimate businesses who simply can't afford the very expensive technology that this would require.

But, I am prone to believe that all government subsidies should take the form of benefits. We should almost never be giving actual cash to welfare recipients. If we ensure that our tax dollars go for food, healthcare, housing, and education, we can block our money from going to luxuries (and I would consider drugs to be one), thus encouraging people to get off government support.

“Dirka”

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I get drug tested to work so anyone receiving benefits from my tax dollars should be tested. The health department can do the drug tests and with modern innovations it only takes a few minutes to get a result for your basic test. Its not expensive as alot of places use the strips. hell MEPS in Louisville uses the strips for the preliminary testing as well. While this isnt 100% its enough to catch some of the people abusing the system. If the people failing the drugs tests have kids then take the kids away. No reason for dopers to have kids in the first place as its just doing them an injustice.
Ho-tep

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Mar 28, 2012
 
I believe they tried drug testing welfare recipients in Florida. 3% failed meaning 97% were reimbursed for the cost of the test with tax dollars.

“Dirka”

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They wouldnt have to pay for it if they had it administered at the health department which would be paid for by the state. That 3% that failed is quite the savings and will more then cover the test for the other 97%.
Ho-tep

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Mar 28, 2012
 
CJobe wrote:
They wouldnt have to pay for it if they had it administered at the health department which would be paid for by the state. That 3% that failed is quite the savings and will more then cover the test for the other 97%.
You're mathematically ignorant beside the fact that our tax dollars are used to fund the health department. Find a different topic to argue. You're losing this one.

“Dirka”

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Mar 28, 2012
 
Lol ignorant? If you have 3% failing you don't have to pay them for the year which will make up the 97% that pass. The strips cost pennies and can give an accurate enough result to show a positive result. While yes some will slip through the cracks the majority will be caught.

The state taxes will fund it and that does come out of our pocket but say we waste $3000 testing people who pass but the people that fail will save well over $3000 over the coarse of their suspension or what have you.

So you say we just let the dope heads and pill heads keep using our tax money to get their fix?
spartan

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Mar 28, 2012
 
CJobe wrote:
Lol ignorant? If you have 3% failing you don't have to pay them for the year which will make up the 97% that pass. The strips cost pennies and can give an accurate enough result to show a positive result. While yes some will slip through the cracks the majority will be caught.
The state taxes will fund it and that does come out of our pocket but say we waste $3000 testing people who pass but the people that fail will save well over $3000 over the coarse of their suspension or what have you.
So you say we just let the dope heads and pill heads keep using our tax money to get their fix?
Really don't want any part of this fray,but I don't believe anyone here favors spending tax dollars to support addicts.I've argued against it on so many different forums that I've about run out of ways to say it,so I'll keep it simple.Cutting food stamps from drug dependent families would only put the crunch on impoverished children,,,and save you nothing.
Backwoods Lady

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Mar 28, 2012
 
spartan wrote:
<quoted text>Really don't want any part of this fray,but I don't believe anyone here favors spending tax dollars to support addicts.I've argued against it on so many different forums that I've about run out of ways to say it,so I'll keep it simple.Cutting food stamps from drug dependent families would only put the crunch on impoverished children,,,and save you nothing.
I almost agree with you spartan,but the addicts that are on welfare trades the food stamps for money,and the children go hungry any way. Fifty dollars FS for Twenty five dollars cash,It is a shame there not a way to help the addict AND the children !!!!!
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Mar 28, 2012
 
Backwoods Lady wrote:
<quoted text>I almost agree with you spartan,but the addicts that are on welfare trades the food stamps for money,and the children go hungry any way. Fifty dollars FS for Twenty five dollars cash,It is a shame there not a way to help the addict AND the children !!!!!
There is.Cut down the food stamps but give 'em pills too.Once they get their pain managed and a nutritious meal to boot,maybe some of 'em will quit thieving and get back to work.Win win.
Ho-tep

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Mar 28, 2012
 
I can't win so let me make the case for drug testing any person or corporation benefiting from our tax revenue. For example, our legislators and for corporations receiving tax credits such as GE.
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Mar 28, 2012
 
Ho-tep wrote:
I can't win so let me make the case for drug testing any person or corporation benefiting from our tax revenue. For example, our legislators and for corporations receiving tax credits such as GE.
By my calculations,you just won.Very excellent point.
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Natural selection should be our only plan. Cut'em off let them get jobs. The older people sure help them out a little they've paid theory dues but as for the younger ones, screw'em. Let the sick and infirm die off, hell it might even help with the deficit if they're not taking up space.
Ho-tep

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spartan wrote:
<quoted text>By my calculations,you just won.Very excellent point.
Thank you spartan for your support. You, as I do, tend to think along the same lines. If you're in, you're all in! No one takes more advantage of our tax dollars then the ones politicking to earn a living from them. In other words, what's good for the goose is good for the gander! Make them all accountable for their actions or intentions!

“Dirka”

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Mar 29, 2012
 
Ho-tep wrote:
I can't win so let me make the case for drug testing any person or corporation benefiting from our tax revenue. For example, our legislators and for corporations receiving tax credits such as GE.
I am perfectly fine with that. I have been drug tested since I was 16. ANYONE that receives government aid should be drug tested. The topic was on people receiving food stamps though; that is why I didn't expound on the all in theory you spoke of. If you receive any money from the government then you should be tested. If the people earning the money have to stay clean so should the people benefiting from it. When I worked at Winn Dixie in Shepherdsville when I was in high school we had people come in all the time trying to trade food stamps for half cash. Although now that they have went to the EBT card I am not sure how easy or tough it is to do that. While this may not stop because of drug testing it would at least give the system a chance to clean up.

Something I try and help out with to try and end childhood hunger is the "No Kid Hungry Campaign". Every week my wife and I while grocery shopping will also shop for a family and when we are all done we will drop the groceries off at a shelter, food bank, church, or anywhere that can guarantee the food will go to good use. Some places have actually setup a kind of angel tree that goes all year long which is nice. We will go and pick up a list for a family in need and shop for them and drop it off a location that they request.

http://nokidhungry.org/

Also to help people get back on their feet people can help at Jobs for Life. Which helps people not only get a job but a career they can depend on. Its not hard at all; I donate my time writing and fixing peoples resumes. Its an hour or two a week at most which isn't much to give up.

http://www.jobsforlife.org/index.php

Both of those organizations are in almost every state which is why I feel that if we drug tested people receiving government aid they would not go hungry and may actually be motivated to clean up and start providing for themselves more and more. I dont accept the answer that people cant do any better or cant help themselves. Honestly its because they dont want to or feel they dont have to because that govt. check will always be there to fall back on.

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Mar 29, 2012
 
The Florida drug testing program appears to increase expenses for the state. But, that may change after enough time passes. One positive note, is that it would take a little bit of the negative stigma away from the people who legitimately need assistance. Naturally the fiscal libertarians and conservatives will still oppose welfare, but this kind of policy does cause less animosity for those people who need a temporary program to help them until they stabilize their financial situation.

I consider myself to be fairly liberal on economic issues (not as much as I am on social issues, and definitely not as much as I am on political freedom), and I do think that a social support system is necessary for a healthy capitalist/social democratic society.
Food Stamps

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Mar 29, 2012
 
spartan wrote:
<quoted text>Really don't want any part of this fray,but I don't believe anyone here favors spending tax dollars to support addicts.I've argued against it on so many different forums that I've about run out of ways to say it,so I'll keep it simple.Cutting food stamps from drug dependent families would only put the crunch on impoverished children,,,and save you nothing.
The people that can't pass the drug test don't need their children give them to the state cause drugs are more important to them then their kids. Also I know how it works people still sale their food stamps for money all they do is give the person the card and pin number. Why can't they put your picture on the card and make you show your ID?
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Mar 29, 2012
 
Ho-tep wrote:
I can't win so let me make the case for drug testing any person or corporation benefiting from our tax revenue. For example, our legislators and for corporations receiving tax credits such as GE.
Care to explain how exactly we would drug test the non-living entity known as GE, dipshit?
brothafromanotha motha

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Mar 29, 2012
 
chaplain wrote:
Natural selection should be our only plan. Cut'em off let them get jobs. The older people sure help them out a little they've paid theory dues but as for the younger ones, screw'em. Let the sick and infirm die off, hell it might even help with the deficit if they're not taking up space.
screw you punk I am sick and if I knew who you are I would come and visit you and thank you personaly for your well thought out QUOTE just think about it the one's of us who realy are sick don't have nothing to lose anyhow may the good lord take a dump on your DOUCHEBAG head f#ck you and have alife full of sickness I wish this for you
spartan

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Mar 29, 2012
 
chaplain wrote:
Natural selection should be our only plan. Cut'em off let them get jobs. The older people sure help them out a little they've paid theory dues but as for the younger ones, screw'em. Let the sick and infirm die off, hell it might even help with the deficit if they're not taking up space.
If I thought your plan would only weed out the free-loaders,,,and wouldn't make hungry kids hungrier,I'd be all for it.However,there's probably somewhere in the neighborhood of one available job for every fifteen guys that need one in the country today.Aside from that,a lot of good tradesman have lost their license over a DUI and can't get to work.And for every one of them,is two or three kids who long desperately to see the first of the month so they can see an egg sandwich again.So in essence,your plan carries too much collateral damage along with it.It's safe to say that it's paramount to nuking half the country in order to thin down the numbers.

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