Victim's dad heckled at hearing

Jan 28, 2013 Full story: Darien News-Review 34

Neil Heslin, of Shelton, holds a portrait of himself and his son, Jesse Lewis, one of the children killed in the Sandy Hook School shooting, during testimony before the Gun Violence Prevention Working Group at the Legislative Office Building in Hartford on Monday, January 28, 2012.

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Kurtz

Los Angeles, CA

#1 Jan 29, 2013
And these hecklers are the same dumb bast@rds that need machine guns, bazookas, and MIG 29's to get through the day.............
Lawton

Minneapolis, MN

#2 Jan 29, 2013
Kurtz wrote:
And these hecklers are the same dumb bast@rds that need machine guns, bazookas, and MIG 29's to get through the day..........
Those hecklers are protecting the White House with all those weapons you mention, F18s NOT MIGs.

Are you really that ignorant?
matt

Whitley City, KY

#3 Jan 29, 2013
Kurtz wrote:
And these hecklers are the same dumb bast@rds that need machine guns, bazookas, and MIG 29's to get through the day..........
Watch the video, there was no heckling. You people will believe anything.

I saw several people shout out "2nd amendment" after being asked by the father why anyone would need an assault rifle.
matt

Whitley City, KY

#4 Jan 29, 2013
A person steals guns,(WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW), shoots and kills his own mother (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW), transports these guns loaded (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW), brings guns onto school property (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW), breaks into the school (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW), discharges the weapons within city limits (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW), murders 26 people (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW), and commits suicide (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW).

And there are people in this country that somehow think passing ANOTHER LAW banning guns would protect us from someone like this. If you haven't noticed, people like this are not concerned about breaking laws - they only care about fulfilling their own twisted agenda.

The only people that a gun ban law would impact are the LAW ABIDING CITIZENS, which will only serve to cripple the ability to protect ourselves.
Grieving Father

Knoxville, TN

#5 Jan 29, 2013
In this age of entitlement on all fronts it seems victims of tragedy are given a pass for their views. His opinion is just that and carries no more weight than any other. For people to oppose his view is not heckling, it is what the First Amendment is about. You know the one that was won down the barrel of a state of the art AR-15 (circa 1776-1783). I lost my son in October. He chose a rope rather than a gun. I in no way feel a need to protest rope manufacturers or feel the rope jumped up around his neck. To place the blame on an inanimate object is the height of absurdity. It is with even more absurdity that we place armed guards at things we feel are precious but not at schools. Weapons are at banks, nuclear facilities, and military bases. It's a shame we don't appear to care enough about kids than fail to guard them, but we advertise "gun free zones" to every homicidal maniac who clearly knows this provides an eternity of uninhibited slaughter time. My prayers go out to all the victims of this tragedy. I do know how it is to lose a child. That said, I will not sacrifice anymore freedoms for security. This notion bears no fruit. Ben Franklin said< Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you". It was true then and it is now
CTM

Sandy Hook, CT

#6 Jan 29, 2013
I think the politicians are feeling so guilty about robbing us for so long that they are afraid that when found out everyone will storm their homes and offices wanting our money back. I could be wrong, whoever heard of a politician with a conscience....
walt

Lancing, TN

#7 Jan 29, 2013
Grieving Father wrote:
In this age of entitlement on all fronts it seems victims of tragedy are given a pass for their views. His opinion is just that and carries no more weight than any other. For people to oppose his view is not heckling, it is what the First Amendment is about. You know the one that was won down the barrel of a state of the art AR-15 (circa 1776-1783). I lost my son in October. He chose a rope rather than a gun. I in no way feel a need to protest rope manufacturers or feel the rope jumped up around his neck. To place the blame on an inanimate object is the height of absurdity. It is with even more absurdity that we place armed guards at things we feel are precious but not at schools. Weapons are at banks, nuclear facilities, and military bases. It's a shame we don't appear to care enough about kids than fail to guard them, but we advertise "gun free zones" to every homicidal maniac who clearly knows this provides an eternity of uninhibited slaughter time. My prayers go out to all the victims of this tragedy. I do know how it is to lose a child. That said, I will not sacrifice anymore freedoms for security. This notion bears no fruit. Ben Franklin said< Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you". It was true then and it is now
I am sorry for your loss and for all those affected by the Sandy Hook tragedy. I realy do admire your stance in all this, you are what America is all about.
scott

New Rochelle, NY

#8 Jan 29, 2013
matt wrote:
A person steals guns,(WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW), shoots and kills his own mother (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW), transports these guns loaded (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW), brings guns onto school property (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW), breaks into the school (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW), discharges the weapons within city limits (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW), murders 26 people (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW), and commits suicide (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW).
And there are people in this country that somehow think passing ANOTHER LAW banning guns would protect us from someone like this. If you haven't noticed, people like this are not concerned about breaking laws - they only care about fulfilling their own twisted agenda.
The only people that a gun ban law would impact are the LAW ABIDING CITIZENS, which will only serve to cripple the ability to protect ourselves.
i couldn't agree with you more. i believe it is time to meet these animals who are killing our children and get rid of them before anymore innocence is taken. it's a tragedy the devil in ct took his life only for the reason that prison would have been a long awesome torture for that waste of space.
CTM

Sandy Hook, CT

#9 Jan 29, 2013
It would be nice to finally hear the motive. Then we can have some real material to give us a chance to stop this from happening again. Did you notice the Father lives in Shelton? Another divorced? Mom living in Newtown.
For the Record

AOL

#10 Jan 29, 2013
Please watch the videotape of this exchange. The dad asked the question of the audience and panel and some folks answered his question.

He was not heckled.

That inflammatory headline was whipped up by the CT Post. The article written by their reporter who just had his own anti-firearm piece in the paper on Sunday.

He also conveniently left out the most compelling parts of the second dad's statement as it related to his feelings that no more gun laws were needed, and that people needed to be accountable for their actions.

In my opinion, the article mostly reflected his personal views. It was not neutral and did not report all of the facts.

Watch the tape of both dad's trestimony and judge for yourself.

Very obviously biased piece of journalism.
Thomas Paine

Knoxville, TN

#11 Jan 29, 2013
The journalism doesn't get any yellower than what is being streamed at us now. The left sees this horrible event as a platform to push their agenda. I'm just curious as to what has happened in the North? Are these the descendants of Union troops who pinned their names on their lapels as they bravely charged into Confederate guns at Cold Harbor? Are these descendants of men who created the American firearms industry? Are you related to seamen that prowled the oceans through horrible storms in search of whales? What has happened to you? Did all Yankees with testicular fortitude carpet bag their way down here after the Late War of Northern Aggression?
John

Seymour, CT

#12 Jan 29, 2013
I just watched the testimony. The Dad was not heckled. As a matter of fact the more I watched, the more I came to realize how biased the media is. Makes me think that instead of more Second Amendment restrictions, may there should be some First Amendment restrictions when the media falsely reports and displays bias like in these hearings.
Ethan Allen

Knoxville, TN

#13 Jan 29, 2013
Attention! Spain has attacked the U.S.S. Maine in Havana Harbor....NO...Darn...I meant the North Vietnamese have launched an unprovoked attack in the Gulf of Tonkin...NO.. I meant Guns are evil! Yeah that's it.
Ethan Allen

Knoxville, TN

#14 Jan 30, 2013
Maybe they meant the dad was Heckler and Kock, you know...packing?

Since: Nov 08

Corbin Ky.

#15 Jan 30, 2013
John wrote:
I just watched the testimony. The Dad was not heckled. As a matter of fact the more I watched, the more I came to realize how biased the media is. Makes me think that instead of more Second Amendment restrictions, may there should be some First Amendment restrictions when the media falsely reports and displays bias like in these hearings.
I agree with you. I too watched the video because I was appalled at the thought of the dad being heckled. There needs to be something we the people can do to stop the media bias. They are destroying this country. They are painting gun owners and NRA members as evil people and the sheeple believe every word of it. I get tired of people being upset that I own guns when I have done no wrong.
Ethan Allen

Knoxville, TN

#17 Jan 30, 2013
BPT wrote:
<quoted text>The gun f*gs are spreading lies about the shooting with cute videos and trying to turn people against the Government. They are guilty as sin and don`t care about people mourning.
How are gun owners guilty of anything? We are terribly hurt by the actions of this deranged person. He was evil pure and simple. I for one would jump at the chance to go back in time and stop this Lanza guy. The government needs no help in turning anyone against it. You seem to have some latent homosexual issues you haven't addressed. I suggest you seek therapy before you are the next rampage killer.
CTM

Sandy Hook, CT

#18 Jan 30, 2013
Thomas Paine wrote:
The journalism doesn't get any yellower than what is being streamed at us now. The left sees this horrible event as a platform to push their agenda. I'm just curious as to what has happened in the North? Are these the descendants of Union troops who pinned their names on their lapels as they bravely charged into Confederate guns at Cold Harbor? Are these descendants of men who created the American firearms industry? Are you related to seamen that prowled the oceans through horrible storms in search of whales? What has happened to you? Did all Yankees with testicular fortitude carpet bag their way down here after the Late War of Northern Aggression?
........No, these are the descendants of the hat-makers. I'm not kidding. Danbury, Ct., is still called Hat City from when they made the best Top Hats in the country. Some of the chemicals and metals used were sulphuric acid, mercury and lead. The term, "Mad as a Hatter", came from the people using this stuff and literally going mad, yes, just like in Alice In Wonderland, the Mad Hatter. The companies knew this stuff was bad then so they would subcontract the locals who had this stuff in their backyard or barn. Hattertown Road is just down the street from me. Those are the descendants you are dealing with here. They are the local politicians. Newtown through history, some low-lights. Fairfield Hills Mental Hospital, almost across the street from the school, was built in the 30s. This was also a vacation spot. Rt. 25, the real Main St., is lined with the old bed & breakfast homes now restaurants. It's alleged the locals,( the local probate judge was in charge of Ffld.Hills), would pluck out a "crazy" for sexual favors for some of the well to do vacationers, old time local "Phillipines" tour. I wonder how much blackmail went on. The old town hall was built as a gift to the town from a rich woman and had to have a movie theatre built into it, I guess there is some charm to that as well as the Flagpole in the middle of the street. This odd history also seems to have built a strong relationship with Hartford. Seeing how Blumenthal as A.G. dismissed suits for the families that are major dumpers here in Ct. That's another 3 days af documents. But yeah, these are the decendants of the Mad Hatter. Why else would it seem right to base the anti-gun movement out of Ct.? Home of the Enfield Rifle, a town is even named that. And Colt, Ruger, and several other gun makers. Seems a lot of jews are behind this, not all are stereotypical, but Blumenthal is.
no more drugs

Edmonton, Canada

#19 Jan 30, 2013
Grieving Father wrote:
In this age of entitlement on all fronts it seems victims of tragedy are given a pass for their views. His opinion is just that and carries no more weight than any other. For people to oppose his view is not heckling, it is what the First Amendment is about. You know the one that was won down the barrel of a state of the art AR-15 (circa 1776-1783). I lost my son in October. He chose a rope rather than a gun. I in no way feel a need to protest rope manufacturers or feel the rope jumped up around his neck. To place the blame on an inanimate object is the height of absurdity. It is with even more absurdity that we place armed guards at things we feel are precious but not at schools. Weapons are at banks, nuclear facilities, and military bases. It's a shame we don't appear to care enough about kids than fail to guard them, but we advertise "gun free zones" to every homicidal maniac who clearly knows this provides an eternity of uninhibited slaughter time. My prayers go out to all the victims of this tragedy. I do know how it is to lose a child. That said, I will not sacrifice anymore freedoms for security. This notion bears no fruit. Ben Franklin said< Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you". It was true then and it is now
Dear Grieving Father,

I am so sorry for your loss. I agree that guns have become the distraction ( a profitable one) although personally, I hate guns..

I do have a question for you, and hope you will reply ..

I am wondering if your son was on antidepressants, or had been on any in the recent months leading up to his death?

The reason I ask this is because it is becoming harder to find a situation of suicide or mass homicide where the person wasnt on these type of meds ..

It is alarming to me that many people either dont know that the side affect of "suicide" and homicidal ideation is a known adverse side affect.

It is a shame that in light of the recent massacre, not one media outlet has touched on the possible motive of antidepressants despite 2 eye witness accounts who were close to the family that stated Adam Lanza was taking mind pills.

The less we talk about these knowon side affects and their connection in so many suicides and homicidal massacres, the less we as the general public will fear these drugs, and will continue to pump them in our children with the belief that they are harmless.

Again, I am sorry for your huge loss.
Grieving Father

Knoxville, TN

#20 Jan 30, 2013
no more drugs wrote:
<quoted text>
Dear Grieving Father,
I am so sorry for your loss. I agree that guns have become the distraction ( a profitable one) although personally, I hate guns..
I do have a question for you, and hope you will reply ..
I am wondering if your son was on antidepressants, or had been on any in the recent months leading up to his death?
The reason I ask this is because it is becoming harder to find a situation of suicide or mass homicide where the person wasnt on these type of meds ..
It is alarming to me that many people either dont know that the side affect of "suicide" and homicidal ideation is a known adverse side affect.
It is a shame that in light of the recent massacre, not one media outlet has touched on the possible motive of antidepressants despite 2 eye witness accounts who were close to the family that stated Adam Lanza was taking mind pills.
The less we talk about these knowon side affects and their connection in so many suicides and homicidal massacres, the less we as the general public will fear these drugs, and will continue to pump them in our children with the belief that they are harmless.
Again, I am sorry for your huge loss.
My son was on a number of medications for ADHD and depression. I have had time to reflect on this and feel they definitely contributed to his death. My wife and I did what we thought was right and gave him what the doctors said would help. My son did have suicidal idealizations for which we put him in therapy and he was given more drugs. I've spoken with other parents of children who committed suicide since this tragedy and have found a similiar theme. At the time of his death, he was on Concerta, Prozac, and Abilify. He had been on these for a number of years as well as other drugs in the past. He did not use recreational drugs as confirmed in the autopsy. I had a straight A student that had a high energy level. Thank you for your kind words and I think you are onto something. I've thought the same but have been reluctant to speak out since the pain is so fresh.
Maximus

Miami, FL

#22 Jan 31, 2013
Grieving Father wrote:
It is with even more absurdity that we place armed guards at things we feel are precious but not at schools.
This subject comes up quite a bit.Over here in my realm,1 nearby school had a stationed sheriffs deputy.That deputy was messing around with the little girls of that school.That deputy lost his job an is on the pedophile list. If they bring in armed security,then that would mean a higher chance of a sexual predator slipping through the screening and have access to your kids.A sexual predator that hasn't been caught!!Just ask the catholic church,boyscouts,and penn state!

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