Honda wages won't match Big 3 pay

Honda wages won't match Big 3 pay

There are 546 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Sep 30, 2007, titled Honda wages won't match Big 3 pay. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

Many of the 30,000 people who applied for Honda jobs in Greensburg had high hopes of landing a big paycheck like the UAW autoworkers who earn $60,000 a year and more.

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Same old story

Bradenton, FL

#1 Oct 1, 2007
Another "American Dream" bites the dust. These companies always pay less when they come to Mexiana.They come for cheap labor and state government money giveaways, and a a state government that will be on the companies side if they have problems.
Magic Johnson

United States

#2 Oct 1, 2007
Agreed. And once the workforce starts to age, they'll find out that being without union representation leaves workers vulnerable to the whims of their employer. Already some Toyota workers in US plants are being discharged for being "old and unhealthy". Don't expect anyone to admit that.
Paris Hilton

Granville, OH

#3 Oct 1, 2007
What makes being a bolt turner so worthy of being highly paid? Simply put the free market will determine how much Honda and Toyota pays if $15 an hour isn't enough then people won't work there.
PROUND UAW MOMMA

Indianapolis, IN

#4 Oct 1, 2007
YOUS NEED UAW UNIOUN TO PAY FOR STUFF. I HAVE NICE BIG NEW TRUCK AND MAK GOOD MONY HERE TO HAVE BIG HOUSE AND BOAT. UNIOUN UAW IS GOOD MONY FOR PAY AND BUY STUFF FOR YOU AND LAKE HOME AND HOUSE. I HAVE NEW BOAT AN TRUCK BY UNIOUN AND HAVE MONY FOR OTHER STUFF AND BUY WITH UNIOUN MONY AND NEW HOME FOR TRUCK AND BOAT. UAW UNOUN NEED TO BE HERE FOR YOUS TO AFORD AND HAVE NEW HOME LIK ME AND HOUSEBOAT.
Magic Johnson

United States

#5 Oct 1, 2007
Mama, you're too stoopid to have a job, let alone a union one. Go back under your rock.
Mavis Bacon

Indianapolis, IN

#6 Oct 1, 2007
PROUND UAW MOMMA wrote:
YOUS NEED UAW UNIOUN TO PAY FOR STUFF. I HAVE NICE BIG NEW TRUCK AND MAK GOOD MONY HERE TO HAVE BIG HOUSE AND BOAT. UNIOUN UAW IS GOOD MONY FOR PAY AND BUY STUFF FOR YOU AND LAKE HOME AND HOUSE. I HAVE NEW BOAT AN TRUCK BY UNIOUN AND HAVE MONY FOR OTHER STUFF AND BUY WITH UNIOUN MONY AND NEW HOME FOR TRUCK AND BOAT. UAW UNOUN NEED TO BE HERE FOR YOUS TO AFORD AND HAVE NEW HOME LIK ME AND HOUSEBOAT.
It's clear a requirement to join your union IS NOT the ability to spell...but you have a lake house, other stuff and a new boat. Congrats! Is the lake house a doublewide?
sam

Indianapolis, IN

#7 Oct 1, 2007
PROUND UAW MOMMA wrote:
YOUS NEED UAW UNIOUN TO PAY FOR STUFF. I HAVE NICE BIG NEW TRUCK AND MAK GOOD MONY HERE TO HAVE BIG HOUSE AND BOAT. UNIOUN UAW IS GOOD MONY FOR PAY AND BUY STUFF FOR YOU AND LAKE HOME AND HOUSE. I HAVE NEW BOAT AN TRUCK BY UNIOUN AND HAVE MONY FOR OTHER STUFF AND BUY WITH UNIOUN MONY AND NEW HOME FOR TRUCK AND BOAT. UAW UNOUN NEED TO BE HERE FOR YOUS TO AFORD AND HAVE NEW HOME LIK ME AND HOUSEBOAT.
I can see now why the union is having problems.
UAW not needed

Indianapolis, IN

#8 Oct 1, 2007
My friend is a Union steward, and he is a multi millionaire, and doesn't work, but 10-15 hours a week. He gets paid under the table to keep the employees quiet....it looks like Honda doesn't need to do that.
Not Curious George

United States

#9 Oct 1, 2007
Aha !!

With this story the Star has once again provided an opportunity for the Career Hamburger Flippers and Union Rejects to bash the UAW and Unions in general.

"We" very well compensated Union Members chuckle at these "Bashers" obvious Jealousy and Envy.
Fishers Person

Louisville, KY

#11 Oct 1, 2007
Oh boo hoo. So the button-pushing factory workers ONLY start out at 31,000 a year. That's more than most school districts pay their first year teachers WITH COLLEGE DEGREES. If you're looking for sympathy Honda workers, you're not going to find it here.
Not a Union Worker

Ingalls, IN

#12 Oct 1, 2007
Unions:
The folks that brought you the middle-class.

“ARRRGGGGGGHHHHHH HH!!!!!!!!!!!!”

Since: Mar 07

Indianapolis, IN

#13 Oct 1, 2007
For those who honestly believe that PROUND UAW MOMMA is a union worker and not someone just acting stupid, I've got some prime oceanfront property for sale in southern Ohio.
What its worth

Florence, KY

#14 Oct 1, 2007
Same old story wrote:
Another "American Dream" bites the dust. These companies always pay less when they come to Mexiana.They come for cheap labor and state government money giveaways, and a a state government that will be on the companies side if they have problems.
Or maybe the Big 3 have been bilked by the UAW and Honda will be paying what the job is actually worth.
What its worth

Florence, KY

#15 Oct 1, 2007
Magic Johnson wrote:
Agreed. And once the workforce starts to age, they'll find out that being without union representation leaves workers vulnerable to the whims of their employer. Already some Toyota workers in US plants are being discharged for being "old and unhealthy". Don't expect anyone to admit that.
Don't expect them to admit it? I suppose you have absolute proof, right?
What its worth

Florence, KY

#16 Oct 1, 2007
Paris Hilton wrote:
What makes being a bolt turner so worthy of being highly paid? Simply put the free market will determine how much Honda and Toyota pays if $15 an hour isn't enough then people won't work there.
Bingo! I guess members of the UAW are incapable of looking out for themselves.

Since: Jul 07

Bloomington, IN

#17 Oct 1, 2007
PROUND UAW MOMMA wrote:
YOUS NEED UAW UNIOUN TO PAY FOR STUFF. I HAVE NICE BIG NEW TRUCK AND MAK GOOD MONY HERE TO HAVE BIG HOUSE AND BOAT. UNIOUN UAW IS GOOD MONY FOR PAY AND BUY STUFF FOR YOU AND LAKE HOME AND HOUSE. I HAVE NEW BOAT AN TRUCK BY UNIOUN AND HAVE MONY FOR OTHER STUFF AND BUY WITH UNIOUN MONY AND NEW HOME FOR TRUCK AND BOAT. UAW UNOUN NEED TO BE HERE FOR YOUS TO AFORD AND HAVE NEW HOME LIK ME AND HOUSEBOAT.
You lie like a rug! Your a non-union Republican.
I know your game. Now get lost.

And may God have mercy.
What its worth

Florence, KY

#18 Oct 1, 2007
Not Curious George wrote:
Aha !!
With this story the Star has once again provided an opportunity for the Career Hamburger Flippers and Union Rejects to bash the UAW and Unions in general.
"We" very well compensated Union Members chuckle at these "Bashers" obvious Jealousy and Envy.
I love how you guys claim the rest of us are jealous just to make yourself feel better about the fact that you couldn't get a good paying job on your own. There is nothing to be jealous of. It is not an admirable trait to be incapable of taking care of yourself. I make as much as any UAW member and have never spent one second of my life in a union. And I don't have to give a chunk of the money I earn to the union to take care of me. I get to keep it all and take care of myself.

Since: Sep 07

Noblesville

#19 Oct 1, 2007
Not Curious George wrote:
Aha !!
With this story the Star has once again provided an opportunity for the Career Hamburger Flippers and Union Rejects to bash the UAW and Unions in general.
"We" very well compensated Union Members chuckle at these "Bashers" obvious Jealousy and Envy.
Please. My field is not unionized and I am an executive ... just so you know that I am no hamburger flipper or union reject. I am a patriotic American who is disgusted at the loss of manufacturing in this country. Unions are culpable for the disintigration of the manufacturing sector. Not the only reason but certainly deserving of a large share of the blame. There was a time and a place for unions in this country when employment laws were weak or nonexistant. That was long ago. Since that time, unions have done little but line the pockets of union bosses at the expense of the company and the union workers; hurting their stated cause by putting companies out of business or driving jobs overseas. I am now paying for that Bethlehem Steel pension plan with my federal taxes. Thanks a lot. It's about time the union worker join the rest of the free market society. It's not about jealousy of unions, it's about maintaining whatever level of competitiveness we have left in manufacturing and creating new manufacturing jobs for the people who need these jobs.
What its worth

Florence, KY

#20 Oct 1, 2007
The UAW types here think that the 'low' pay at Honda is a bad thing. There is another article on the Star web site right now about how GM is about to close ANOTHER plant in Indy.

Union Pride = closed factories!
Hoosier Daddy

Erlanger, KY

#21 Oct 1, 2007
$31K per year (rising a whopping 25% to $38K per year in 2009) and free health insurance for an entry-level job that requires no education beyond high school? Sounds pretty good to me. Teachers, journalists, social workers, and other entry-level professionals with four-year degrees start out at approximately that wage...sans the free health insurance, of course. I don't think any of those college grads will be boo-hooing because Honda assembly-line workers won't start out earning $60K per year.

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