Canton

Canton, OH

#30801 Jun 30, 2014
How did Ronald Reagan and Nancy meet? What was Reagan up to when they first came across each other? How did he feel about unions? Who was implying that Nancy Reagan was a "commie"? Wonder why Reagan's views changed on unions, after being such a strong advocate? Oh, that's right. It happened at the exact time the corporations bought him like a cheap wh0re.

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#30802 Jun 30, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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What I want is our government to enforce regulations already on the books.......
..They Are!!!....Who do you think, gathered up all those illegal kids ?
oh really

Dublin, OH

#30803 Jun 30, 2014
Canton wrote:
Yawn...
In right to work states, employees enjoy $5,333 less a year than the free bargaining states.
In right to work states, 21% more people have no health insurance at all compared to free bargaining states.
Workers in right to work states enjoy a 51% increase in job related fatalities, than compared to union protected states.
In right to work states, employees enjoy the luxury of a 12.5% poverty rate, compared to a 10.2% poverty rate in states that are free bargaining states.
And all of those "look for the union label" jobs - what happened to them?
Canton

Canton, OH

#30804 Jun 30, 2014
oh really wrote:
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And all of those "look for the union label" jobs - what happened to them?
Ask Reagan, or is this just another example of how Tea Baggers try to rewrite history? How about the Union slogan "Buy American"? Now go wave your little flag that was made in China.
Canton

Canton, OH

#30805 Jun 30, 2014
Of course there is always this...

In right to work states, employees enjoy $5,333 less a year than the free bargaining states.
In right to work states, 21% more people have no health insurance at all compared to free bargaining states.
Workers in right to work states enjoy a 51% increase in job related fatalities, than compared to union protected states.
In right to work states, employees enjoy the luxury of a 12.5% poverty rate, compared to a 10.2% poverty rate in states that are free bargaining states.
Canton

Canton, OH

#30806 Jun 30, 2014
Saw Fox News trying to imply that Obama let a bunch of South American kids sneak into our country to boost the voting pool. How absurd. You guys are a thousand times more flakey than the Libs. Just like how GW Bush was a 1000 times worse than Obama, no matter how many emailed propaganda letters told you differently. REAL Americans remember EXACTLY who is to blame for the economic crisis and the meaningless wars inflected on this nation. Right wing Christian Conservative Republicans. (Also see last 2 presidential elections)
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#30808 Jun 30, 2014
oh really wrote:
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And all of those "look for the union label" jobs - what happened to them?
They moved to China and India.

Americans don't look for any USA label, they look at price. It's the main reason why Wal-Mart became number one in our country.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#30809 Jun 30, 2014
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>..They Are!!!....Who do you think, gathered up all those illegal kids ?
Better question: who brought them here?
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#30810 Jun 30, 2014
Canton wrote:
How did Ronald Reagan and Nancy meet? What was Reagan up to when they first came across each other? How did he feel about unions? Who was implying that Nancy Reagan was a "commie"? Wonder why Reagan's views changed on unions, after being such a strong advocate? Oh, that's right. It happened at the exact time the corporations bought him like a cheap wh0re.
Unions were good at one time. Then they became too strong so to the point they were running the companies their members worked for.

Unions began telling companies who was going to get promoted and who wasn't. Unions began telling companies who was getting raises and when. Unions were telling companies where they were allowed to expand and where they weren't. Unions became too strong.

Reagan like many Americans began to realize the damage unions were doing to this country instead of just the good. It became apparent that the gravy train wouldn't last forever. It couldn't.

How did I become anti-union? I worked with them. They were our customers which are now either out of business of moved out of the country or state. They were my neighbors and friends. I have enough union stories to take an entire page on Topix. None of them good either.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#30811 Jun 30, 2014
Canton wrote:
Hey neat. With little effort at all, I found out that Right-to-Work is a union busting ploy, brought to us by...? Guess who. Come on. Take a guess. Here's a hint. Everything the Tea Baggers believe leads directly to them..
What you found was another leftist kook site that printed everything they knew you would want to read.
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#30812 Jun 30, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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What I want is our government to enforce regulations already on the books.
What regulations do you want government to enforce that are not being enforced now?
xxxrayted wrote:
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I don't want politicians inviting foreigners into our country taking away American jobs.
Who is the politician that is doing that? Unless you are talking about expanding H-1B visas, which Republicans have advocated.

"Four senators, led by Orrin G. Hatch, a Republican from Utah, introduced a bill on Tuesday that would greatly increase the number of temporary visas available for those immigrants, and would also free up permanent resident visas, known as green cards, so more of those immigrants could settle in the United States and eventually become citizens."

http://www.americanbazaaronline.com/2013/01/2...

I still don't understand why you think that you are worth more than a "foreigner". If they are willing to do the same job for less than you are, that is good for business. Sure, that might put you out of work, but that's just the free markets in action, right? Who are you to tell companies that they should pay workers more? You have obviously been over-paid for years, if others are willing to work for less.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#30813 Jun 30, 2014
Canton wrote:
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Sure, since we are both working men, let's take a look at the rightwing union busting ploy that is "right-to-work" and compare those states to states with strong unions. Sorry if these proven facts are from right now and not 1974, but you never cared about facts much anyway...
In right to work states, employees enjoy $5,333 less a year than the free bargaining states.
In right to work states, 21% more people have no health insurance at all compared to free bargaining states.
Workers in right to work states enjoy a 51% increase in job related fatalities, than compared to union protected states.
In right to work states, employees enjoy the luxury of a 12.5% poverty rate, compared to a 10.2% poverty rate in states that are free bargaining states.
A February 2011 study by the Economic Policy Institute found:[16]

In 2009, the unemployment rate was 1.0 percentage points lower in RTW states than states without the legislation. In RTW states, it was 8.6%, In other states it was 9.6%.[16]

Wages in right-to-work states are 3.2% lower than those in non-RTW states, after controlling for a full complement of individual demographic and socioeconomic variables as well as state macroeconomic indicators. Using the average wage in non-RTW states as the base ($22.11), the average full-time, full-year worker in an RTW state makes about $1,500 less annually than a similar worker in a non-RTW state. The study goes on to say "How much of this difference can be attributed to RTW status itself? There is an inherent “endogeneity” problem in any attempt to answer that question, namely that RTW and non-RTW states differ on a wide variety of measures that are also related to compensation, making it difficult to isolate the impact of RTW status."[16]

The rate of employer-sponsored health insurance (ESI) is 2.6 percentage points lower in RTW states compared with non-RTW states, after controlling for individual, job, and state-level characteristics. If workers in non-RTW states were to receive ESI at this lower rate, 2 million fewer workers nationally would be covered.

The rate of employer-sponsored pensions is 4.8 percentage points lower in RTW states, using the full complement of control variables in [the study's] regression model. If workers in non-RTW states were to receive pensions at this lower rate, 3.8 million fewer workers nationally would have pensions.

A 2008 editorial in the pro-business periodical The Wall Street Journal comparing job growth in Ohio and Texas stated that from 1998 to 2008, Ohio lost 10,400 jobs, while Texas gained 1,615,000. The opinion piece suggested right-to-work laws might be among the reasons for the economic expansion in Texas, along with the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), and the absence of a state income tax in Texas.[29] Another Wall Street Journal editorial in 2012, by the president and the labor policy director of the Mackinac Center for Public Policy, reported 71% employment growth in right-to-work states from 1980 to 2011, while employment in non-right-to-work states grew just 32% during the same period.[30] The 2012 editorial also stated that since 2001, compensation in right-to-work states had increased 4 times faster than in other states.[30]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-to-work_la...
half breed

Van Wert, OH

#30814 Jun 30, 2014
Look at that diabetic, overpaid, chain smoking trucker go...
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#30815 Jun 30, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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What you want is someone you can pretend you are superior to. You are running out of options. You know that if we start treating Hispanics as human beings you will be at the absolute bottom of the barrel.
And what do you mean by not treating them as human beings? Give us a few examples.

This is the United States of America. As such, we have had millions of people come to this country to become Americans, and, they did it the legal way.

A country as great as the United States does not have to pander to anybody--particularly those who find our laws too inconvenient to obey. That is of course unless you are a liberal Democrat that knows full well Hispanics typically vote liberal when they are legally allowed to vote.

Yes, like all of us here, my ancestors came to this country for a better life, but again, obeying the rules in place at the time. When they got here, they didn't expect Americans to learn their language. They learned English. They didn't expect the US to change their regulations to accommodate them. They obeyed our laws. They didn't protest in front of courts or city halls stating this was their country, and they were taking it back. Instead, they felt blessed that a great country like this would give them such a unique opportunity. They didn't come here--work, and then send their money home. They became Americans and contributed to our society and economy.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Lodi, OH

#30816 Jun 30, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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And what do you mean by not treating them as human beings? Give us a few examples.
This is the United States of America. As such, we have had millions of people come to this country to become Americans, and, they did it the legal way.
A country as great as the United States does not have to pander to anybody--particularly those who find our laws too inconvenient to obey. That is of course unless you are a liberal Democrat that knows full well Hispanics typically vote liberal when they are legally allowed to vote.
Yes, like all of us here, my ancestors came to this country for a better life, but again, obeying the rules in place at the time. When they got here, they didn't expect Americans to learn their language. They learned English. They didn't expect the US to change their regulations to accommodate them. They obeyed our laws. They didn't protest in front of courts or city halls stating this was their country, and they were taking it back. Instead, they felt blessed that a great country like this would give them such a unique opportunity. They didn't come here--work, and then send their money home. They became Americans and contributed to our society and economy.
You will never understand.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Lodi, OH

#30817 Jun 30, 2014
half breed wrote:
Look at that diabetic, overpaid, chain smoking trucker go...
You forgot slumlord.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#30818 Jun 30, 2014
half breed wrote:
Look at that diabetic, overpaid, chain smoking trucker go...
Look at that government dependent, unemployed, troll shoot his mouth off.

But then again, what else is there to do in Van Fart Ohio?
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#30819 Jun 30, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
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What regulations do you want government to enforce that are not being enforced now?
<quoted text>
Who is the politician that is doing that? Unless you are talking about expanding H-1B visas, which Republicans have advocated.
"Four senators, led by Orrin G. Hatch, a Republican from Utah, introduced a bill on Tuesday that would greatly increase the number of temporary visas available for those immigrants, and would also free up permanent resident visas, known as green cards, so more of those immigrants could settle in the United States and eventually become citizens."
http://www.americanbazaaronline.com/2013/01/2...
I still don't understand why you think that you are worth more than a "foreigner". If they are willing to do the same job for less than you are, that is good for business. Sure, that might put you out of work, but that's just the free markets in action, right? Who are you to tell companies that they should pay workers more? You have obviously been over-paid for years, if others are willing to work for less.
Good. Then when it gets icy outside, you drive in front of one of those foreigners that can't read a word of English. Do you know what people do when they have a job that pays by the load or by the mile? They drive faster because they are working at such a low rate of pay. They have to make good time in order to survive.

But hey! These people come here and put ten of their family members in a two bedroom home. That's good for the neighborhood. Hopefully they move into your neighborhood real soon.

These foreigners don't have nearly my experience or driving record. See, I know I have to be careful because if I get too many points or lose my license, that's all I have. Foreigners? When they get too many points because of accidents and tickets, they just move back home and no big deal. They made their money and that's all they wanted.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#30820 Jun 30, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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You will never understand.
Oh, I can understand. It's just that I have to keep remembering to push 1 for English to understand.

You Surrender First liberals will be the end of this country yet.
Canton

Canton, OH

#30821 Jun 30, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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Unions were good at one time. Then they became too strong so to the point they were running the companies their members worked for.
Unions began telling companies who was going to get promoted and who wasn't. Unions began telling companies who was getting raises and when. Unions were telling companies where they were allowed to expand and where they weren't. Unions became too strong.
Reagan like many Americans began to realize the damage unions were doing to this country instead of just the good. It became apparent that the gravy train wouldn't last forever. It couldn't.
How did I become anti-union? I worked with them. They were our customers which are now either out of business of moved out of the country or state. They were my neighbors and friends. I have enough union stories to take an entire page on Topix. None of them good either.
I can agree that unions have become ineffective in their current form but the alternative of siding with big corp has never been in working middle class people's best interests. The solution? Union 2.0 Nationwide solidarity.

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