Southbound I-435 Shut Down Because of...

Southbound I-435 Shut Down Because of Accident

There are 21 comments on the Fox4KC story from Jan 19, 2010, titled Southbound I-435 Shut Down Because of Accident. In it, Fox4KC reports that:

Traffic is at a stand still near southbound 435 and Eastwood Trafficway in Kansas City, Missouri.

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Upkick

Shenandoah, IA

#1 Jan 19, 2010
What time was this?
Confused

Overland Park, KS

#2 Jan 19, 2010
Horse trailer?
With bicycles and a large window on the back?
You sure?
been there

Deepwater, MO

#3 Jan 19, 2010
When you are pulling a load going south on 435 south of 70 the curve and the massive bump nearly caused me to loose control until I learned it was there. This bad spot has been there for a long time. Good luck to anyone who is not aware of it.
d405ws

Kansas City, MO

#4 Jan 19, 2010
What time did this happen???
jhi

United States

#5 Jan 19, 2010
It wasn't a horse trailer, but similar; it was a fifth-wheel RV trailer (hitch-mounted in bed of the pickup truck). Who knows how it happened, but it certainly is sad -- and very sobering for those of us who drive 5th wheel trailer/truck rigs. Likely this was a couple vacationing or full-time RVers (many of whom have truck and 5th wheel trailer combinations). The trailers can be very heavy, and if the truck is not rated to pull and more importantly, STOP the trailer, it can be deadly. Even if the truck is rated adequate to tow and control the trailer, slick spots or sudden moves are a huge hazard.
jhi

United States

#6 Jan 19, 2010
correction to my earlier comment -- with hay on the road, this was probably a 5th wheel horse trailer with living quarters, a "hybrid" RV type. The bump that an earlier poster made reference to could have been a factor, for sure. I had to drive through this northbound and southbound this morning; surprised that even one person got out alive, looking at the condition of the truck.
LNB

Kansas City, MO

#7 Jan 19, 2010
DUDE this news report is so inaccurate!!!
been there

Deepwater, MO

#8 Jan 19, 2010
jhi wrote:
It wasn't a horse trailer, but similar; it was a fifth-wheel RV trailer (hitch-mounted in bed of the pickup truck). Who knows how it happened, but it certainly is sad -- and very sobering for those of us who drive 5th wheel trailer/truck rigs. Likely this was a couple vacationing or full-time RVers (many of whom have truck and 5th wheel trailer combinations). The trailers can be very heavy, and if the truck is not rated to pull and more importantly, STOP the trailer, it can be deadly. Even if the truck is rated adequate to tow and control the trailer, slick spots or sudden moves are a huge hazard.
You are exactly right. Most people think if their truck will pull it then it can handle the load. I see trucks and cars so overloaded that they are dangerous to themselves and others. This is more common than not.
kingborg

De Soto, KS

#9 Jan 19, 2010
what are you smoking? they would NOT have called animal control in if there were no animals on scene!
jhi

United States

#10 Jan 19, 2010
Wondering now if this was a 5th wheel or a pull-behind trailer? It seems now, looking back, that I saw something protruding that could have been a tow behind-style hitch. And wondering how in heck, with a 5th wheel hitch, the trailer would have ended up flipped over on top of the truck?

Serious business, towing RV trailers or driving the RV motorhomes. Even as I was trying to get through the bottleneck at this accident, and traffic had slowed to a crawl, another RVer in a large motorhome with a tow vehicle behind, nearly hit me and also nearly side-swiped a small car to his right, because he failed to slow down.
plondre

Tomah, WI

#11 Jan 19, 2010
This couple was from Black River Falls, WI and had just bought the 2010 5th wheel. They were headed for AZ. She had been a school bus driver for many years and knew how to handle the truck and trailer.
Griz

Edmonton, KY

#12 Jan 19, 2010
Just because someone knows how to drive a school bus, dosnt meen they can handle a 5th wheel. Sorry about your loss, but i would sue the camper dealer for telling this couple it was alright to be pulling this heavy of a 5th wheel trailer, with just a F150 4x4 Ford pickup!
What R U talikng about

Kansas City, KS

#13 Jan 19, 2010
This is not a horse trailer, this is a camper trailer. There were no horses or any other animals involved in this. Fox 4.....working for who?
jhi

United States

#14 Jan 19, 2010
plondre wrote:
This couple was from Black River Falls, WI and had just bought the 2010 5th wheel. They were headed for AZ. She had been a school bus driver for many years and knew how to handle the truck and trailer.
To "plondre" -- I am so sorry, apparently you knew these people well. I drove by two hours after the accident, and shook me up just to see it.

To the comments about whether or not she was capable, it's not for us to judge. We weren't there. As for whether this was only a F150 pulling too much trailer, I do want more facts. I'm a new 5th wheel and truck driver and am just beginning to get a feel for this and to get over being overly anxious. It's scary to have seen this firsthand and if other 5th wheel drivers or I can learn anything from this tragedy to prevent getting into an accident myself, it would be useful.

Without passing any judgment on this person's actions and this tragedy, if what happened was in any way due to the trailer being too big and heavy for the truck's capacity, then it's a wake-up call for all RV drivers and the RV dealer industry. As has already been pointed out, there are people out there pulling way too much trailer with way too little truck -- and as has been pointed out, they are often pointed in that direction by RV dealers who are clueless about what GAWR or GCWR mean.

My sincere sympathies to the family and friends of this woman and her partner.
Joe

United States

#15 Jan 19, 2010
I think we need to focus on the fact that a husband lost his wife today and their children and grandchildren lost their mother and grandmother. I doubt she would have driven the vehicle if she wasn't comfortable! As for the person who wrote the article, by looking at the picture you can clearly tell that it wasn't a horse trailer!! Check your facts...love the part about hay all over the road.
Jeff Simmons

United States

#16 Jan 19, 2010
It was a travel trailer not a horse trailer. I am a truck driver and I travel that road almost every day. For the past 15 years when you get to the entrance and exits of those 2 overpasses, it is like hitting a ramp. When you drive a big truck, whatever you are hauling bounces in the air. If it is not really secure it would shake it loose. I have seen trucks lose trailers because of those 2 overpasses, and have also seen equiptment fall off flatbeds because of the violent jump on those 2 overpasses. This past summer the highway department or somebody, worked on them, but they are not anywhere near the safe condition they should be. When I travel over it in a passenger car, it is barely noticable, but in my big truck, it bounces my truck in the air, and everything shakes and rattles.Could you find someone to check this and see if this is what caused this wreck. I would really like to find out. Thanks, Jeff Simmons
Jodi

United States

#17 Jan 19, 2010
Its not a horse trailer. Its an RV!!!
sara

Black River Falls, WI

#18 Jan 21, 2010
Upkick wrote:
What time was this?
I would just like to say to all of those interested. our parents were headed to arizona for vacation. our mother was very capable at driving anything u put in front of her. the trailer was a ball hitch setup with anti-sway everything, our parents had dog that traveled everywhere with them and he has been returned to our father and is in good shape. dad had a few injuries and they are coming home to wi today. highway conditions, truck, and trailer doesn't matter at this point... remember someone out there just lost a loved one. and a great thanks should be sent out to the family that took in our father at a time of great need. our family thanks her so much for taking two days and helping him find his way in a big strange city.
Allergictoignora nce

Kansas City, MO

#19 Jan 24, 2010
sara - My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family during this difficult time! People will pass judgement on websites like these regardless of the story.
RonMelancon

Richmond, VA

#20 Feb 1, 2010
Please...Please..when you get a moment go to www.dangeroustrailers.org .
Time and Tme again..we have these accidents and no training or standards are in place.
While a loss of life happend and our prayers go out to all involved. The questions must be asked. Why did this accident happen?
Speed?
Overloaded?
Equipment failure?
Towing Capacity?
Our mission is to educate and reduce these types of accidents.

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