Group plan memorial to Minnesotans who served in U.S. Civil War

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Civil War re-enactors George Luskey of Shakopee and John Cain of Red Wing hope the Minnesota Boys of 61 can raise $750,000 for a memorial to Minnesota soldiers who fought in the Civil War.
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War is not pretty

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I hate to say it - yes, these volunteers do deserve to be recognized; but I do believe that every town that has the statue of the first volunteer I believe pays tribute to these unsung heroes... Beautify the grounds around them - make it a square of honour amidst them.. but to create a brand new memorial - I am sorry, I cannot justify this. War is never glory.

Yes, I am a distant decendant of a Civil War Veteran; I am a nephew of Vietnam Marine who came back in a bodybag - the only son amidst a family of 12 other sisters; I am a brother of a Marine who was in Desert Storm I. A brother-in-law to one who fought at Grenada. I have been friends with WWII vets who have now passed on and fought at D-Day and Utah Beach. I have been a student of a Marine who was the 3rd youngest Major in Marine Corps history... and a student who fought the European theatre as an Army Infantry man.. and a great-nephew to a WAC and otherssss.... By me acknowledging these men and women; I believe I am paying tribute to all service people and acknowledge that war is not glorious, it is not pretty.

The way we can pay tribute is to learn the lessons of war and have peace. Bring that peace into the family first - church communities - city communities - county - state - and national then internationally... Ultimately peace... peace begins with ourselves... Let it begin with me.

'Lord make me an instrument of your peace, and let it begin with me.'
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Apparently these folks have not been over to Lakewood Cemetery in Minneapolis to view the Civil War memorial there.
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It's Obama's fault.
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The Civil War soldiers from Minnesota do need to be recognized. I was gripped by their story in the "Last Full Measure"
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The african-american community will never let this happen.
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As a southerner,veteran,and SCV member, I think that this memorial is a great thing, and long overdue. All states should honor their vets, and the 1st Minnesota Volunteer's story is one of bravery, honor and dedication. This comes from someone who's Virginia ancestors faced this unit at Gettysburg. The 1st Minnesota's valor is well-known to Civil War buffs, both north and south, and can be expanded by this effort.

In 1879, Albert Miller Lea was honored in his namesake city. The former Confederate colonel was shown great respect, and he honored Minnesota's Union veterans, including the 1st Minnesota, as well as spend time in St. Paul and Ft. Snelling with soldiers and veterans. Near the end of his life he wrote a series of interesting stories for the old Freeborn County Standard from his home in Corsicana, TX. The Freeborn County Historical Society in Albert Lea, MN has some great historical documents of this era.

It is also quite noble that this group is trying to complete this project with private funding. Civil War historical sites are a thriving tourist industry in many states. As your Congressman says, "Everyone needs a sense of history..." and why not attract some visitor dollars as you inform, teach and entertain? It works in Virginia, Texas, Mississippi, Pennsylvania, Georgia, etc., so why not in Minnesota? It can be a win-win situation for all involved.
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Vikings Fan wrote:
The african-american community will never let this happen.
Huh? Please explain your comment.
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Huh? Please explain your comment.
Maybe he's been following the story of a marker being put up at the civil war site of the railroad depot in Atlanta that was burned by Sherman. The NAACP finds it offensive and is opposing it. Go figure!
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Oh... Why not do something useful with that $750,000 instead of building yet another grotesque war memorial designed by a politically-connected artist and built by a politically connected contractor.
Why not preserve artifacts with that money instead? Why not save actual Civil War battlefields? Maybe rise another Union ironclad like they did with the USS Cairo and put it on display for future generations to appreciate and learn from, experience?
These War Memorials tell us more about their sentimental supporters than anything about those who actually perished in battle. A massive feel-good gesture while real heritage is lost.
Consider the WW II Memorial in Washington looking like something out of Mussolini's Italy. It was built at great public expense while the authentic USS Cabot was scrapped. Where are our values?
Steven W Lindsey
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Keene, NH
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Steven W Lindsey wrote:
Oh... Why not do something useful with that $750,000 instead of building yet another grotesque war memorial designed by a politically-connected artist and built by a politically connected contractor.
Why not preserve artifacts with that money instead? Why not save actual Civil War battlefields? Maybe rise another Union ironclad like they did with the USS Cairo and put it on display for future generations to appreciate and learn from, experience?
These War Memorials tell us more about their sentimental supporters than anything about those who actually perished in battle. A massive feel-good gesture while real heritage is lost.
Consider the WW II Memorial in Washington looking like something out of Mussolini's Italy. It was built at great public expense while the authentic USS Cabot was scrapped. Where are our values?
Steven W Lindsey
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Keene, NH
Steve, correct me if I am wrong but I believe the WW II Memorial in Washington was completed with private donations, and the land donated by the Federal government. I don't dis-agree with your argument of preserving artifacts, that is important. But I still think it is honorable to remember those men and women who have served and those who have been wounded serving our great country. I have always thought that the war memorials remind us of the brave men and women who have served, but also of our obligation as a country to avoid a war at all possible cost. BTW: I am a former soldier myself.
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I will be happy to contribute and raise funds for this memorial as soon as Minnesota gives back to Virginia, The battle flag it captured at Gettysburg. Virginia has requested the return of the flag on numerous occasions, but Minnesota has always said no. The confederate states seem to have more honor. The state of North Carolia, returned the Rhode Island battle flag that they had captured at the battle of Middleburg. Common Minnesota : cough it up !
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NUTSTOU wrote:
I will be happy to contribute and raise funds for this memorial as soon as Minnesota gives back to Virginia, The battle flag it captured at Gettysburg. Virginia has requested the return of the flag on numerous occasions, but Minnesota has always said no. The confederate states seem to have more honor. The state of North Carolia, returned the Rhode Island battle flag that they had captured at the battle of Middleburg. Common Minnesota : cough it up !
That flag was captured fair and square. Are you an indian-giver?
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I am sick and tired of the incessant celebration of a war that divided the country, killed hundreds of thousands of soldiers and civilians, destroyed cities and almost brought about the end of our country. Those who continue to glorify this conflict need to get over it. We are still affected by the war a hundred and fifty years after its end. Let go. There was nothing glamorous about it.
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magruder wrote:
As a southerner,veteran,and SCV member, I think that this memorial is a great thing, and long overdue. All states should honor their vets, and the 1st Minnesota Volunteer's story is one of bravery, honor and dedication. This comes from someone who's Virginia ancestors faced this unit at Gettysburg. The 1st Minnesota's valor is well-known to Civil War buffs, both north and south, and can be expanded by this effort.
In 1879, Albert Miller Lea was honored in his namesake city. The former Confederate colonel was shown great respect, and he honored Minnesota's Union veterans, including the 1st Minnesota, as well as spend time in St. Paul and Ft. Snelling with soldiers and veterans. Near the end of his life he wrote a series of interesting stories for the old Freeborn County Standard from his home in Corsicana, TX. The Freeborn County Historical Society in Albert Lea, MN has some great historical documents of this era.
It is also quite noble that this group is trying to complete this project with private funding. Civil War historical sites are a thriving tourist industry in many states. As your Congressman says, "Everyone needs a sense of history..." and why not attract some visitor dollars as you inform, teach and entertain? It works in Virginia, Texas, Mississippi, Pennsylvania, Georgia, etc., so why not in Minnesota? It can be a win-win situation for all involved.
1st Minnesota is memorialized not only at Gettysburg, but inside Lakewood Cemetery in Minneapolis.
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NUTSTOU wrote:
I will be happy to contribute and raise funds for this memorial as soon as Minnesota gives back to Virginia, The battle flag it captured at Gettysburg. Virginia has requested the return of the flag on numerous occasions, but Minnesota has always said no. The confederate states seem to have more honor. The state of North Carolia, returned the Rhode Island battle flag that they had captured at the battle of Middleburg. Common Minnesota : cough it up !
Shoulda fought harder!
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Michigan Solves Deficit By Forcing Foster Kids Into Thrift Store Clothes

by Jack Stuef
10:47 am April 25, 2011

The state of Michigan is facing a budget deficit of $1.4 billion this year. How did Governorissimo Rick Snyder decide to fix this problem? By giving businesses $1.8 billion in tax cuts. Whoops! Silly governor, that makes the deficit bigger! This must all be a huge misunderstanding! How could somebody be presented with a problem of this magnitude and decide the best solution would be to double it? Because Michigan Republicans have a plan, that’s why. There’s a thing called “foster kids,” food-and-shelter fat cats who get their kicks being able to exist and hoping that someday somebody will love them. Did you know Michigan gives these children a stipend to spend on clothes to wear to school? Not anymore! The deficit/new business tax cuts cost will be fixed on the backs of foster kids, by making them buy all their clothes at thrift stores
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I think the only monuments to war should be the grave stones honoring a persons participation.
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Jed Terner wrote:
I think the only monuments to war should be the grave stones honoring a persons participation.
What about the men and women who never came home? Outta luck?
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Capt Crunch wrote:
Melin: Republican budget does not call for shared sacrifice
Recently-elected representative Carly Melin (DFL-Hibbing) has a well-written editorial in the Duluth News Tribune taking the MNGOP to task for asking everyone in the state except for the richest 5 percent for “shared sacrifice.” The whole thing is worth a read, but here’s an excerpt:
This past fall, while my colleagues were on the campaign trail, I was just another Minnesota voter listening to political promises. Like many Minnesotans, I heard a lot of rhetoric about cutting spending, which, in turn, was supposed to create jobs. Half the message was about what candidates could do and why they should be elected. The other half was focused on a “shared sacrifice” to balance Minnesota’s budget deficit.
So imagine the surprise around the state when the speaker of the House and the Senate majority leader could not answer when asked on Minnesota Public Radio what sacrifices the richest 5 percent of Minnesotans were making to balance the budget.
So who is making sacrifices under the Republican’s budget proposals?
Minnesota’s workers are making sacrifices. The budget bills passed by the House majority would lead directly to 30,000 layoffs, most of them in the private sector. This would add to the already 200,000 unemployed Minnesotans. The author of the jobs bill, which should promote economic development, admitted his bill doesn’t create any jobs.
Melin presents a few more groups who are being asked to make sacrifices, and notes that “the richest 5 percent of Minnesotans aren’t being asked to make a single sacrifice to balance Minnesota’s budget.” Read the rest here: http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/event/articl...
What the "f". What does this crap have to do with this topic? You "f" ing spam-troll.
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Michigan Solves Deficit By Forcing Foster Kids Into Thrift Store Clothes
by Jack Stuef
10:47 am April 25, 2011
The state of Michigan is facing a budget deficit of $1.4 billion this year. How did Governorissimo Rick Snyder decide to fix this problem? By giving businesses $1.8 billion in tax cuts. Whoops! Silly governor, that makes the deficit bigger! This must all be a huge misunderstanding! How could somebody be presented with a problem of this magnitude and decide the best solution would be to double it? Because Michigan Republicans have a plan, that’s why. There’s a thing called “foster kids,” food-and-shelter fat cats who get their kicks being able to exist and hoping that someday somebody will love them. Did you know Michigan gives these children a stipend to spend on clothes to wear to school? Not anymore! The deficit/new business tax cuts cost will be fixed on the backs of foster kids, by making them buy all their clothes at thrift stores
What the "f". What does this crap have to do with this topic? You "f" ing spam-troll.

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