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Despite two votes against, tea party coming to Hanover

There are 77 comments on the The York Daily Record story from Feb 25, 2010, titled Despite two votes against, tea party coming to Hanover. In it, The York Daily Record reports that:

Despite two dissenting votes, the Hanover Borough Council gave approval for a Seven Valleys man to hold a Tax Day Tea Party in Wirt Park.

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Andy Edmodns

Spring Grove, PA

#62 Feb 28, 2010
Citizen Kane wrote:
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My guess would be this, and this is only a guess. Social Security is dependant on life expectency where as the GI program is not. As the Baby Boomer generation lives longer more money is siphoned out of social security. We agree that social security monies should be used for that purpose and that purpose only. I'm guessing the GI Bill stays afloat because there is a more limited pool of applicants with a defined benefit (around 76,000) where as you could possibly collect social security for 30 years if you live long enough. If you look at our demographics, the matter is there are more people taking out than putting into the system and this system cannot be sustained. Moreover, if you are contributing 1200 per month that is over 14,000 a year. At that rate you will have contributed the 76,000 in a little over 5 years. If all taxpayers contributed at that rate social security would remain solvent for many years.
do u have a facebook page or sum way we could talk in IM? if so, my email address is [email protected] I would like to discuss this with u futher, its just kind of tedious to continue to do so on here
Sanity

York, PA

#63 Feb 28, 2010
Truthteller wrote:
Doesn't anyone get the obvious irony here. This man is asking to have a public protest against high taxes and big government in a public park paid for by taxes and maintained by a government body. What a bunch of idiots. This is as bad as people at Town Halls yelling at their representatives to get the government out of their Medicare. If you don't like government don't ask to meet in public park. I agree with the councilman, let them meet in a field somewhere. The level of ignorance among the Tea Partiers is beyond astounding. Have any of these people ever read a history book? I'm not as scared of our current government as I was when Bush and company were gutting the Bill of Rights and the Constitution in the name of Homeland Security and the Patriot Act.
Your ignorance is what is being fought against. The tea-partyers understand what the founders meant by a limited federal gov't. Most influence should belong to the states, where the money is spent closer to to the representative tax payer. You know, like parks. We are not against paying taxes, we are against taxation without representation. Federal tax dollars get allocated across all fifty states creating alot of room for corruption. I don't want my tax dollars being used to bail out California because their liberalism has brought them to financial ruin.
furry

York, PA

#64 Mar 1, 2010
Andy Edmonds wrote:
Stimulus package waste:
http://www.rightpundits.com/...
Obama tripled the deficit (in one year!!!)
And as far as Jobs go:
Bush: Unemployment raises 3% in 8 years
Obama: Unemployment raises 2% in 1 year
not only that Bush never promised that if we passed his super spending bill that we wouldnt go above 8%...OBAMA did!
One Question you & I will never know! IF Prez Bush had stayed in office, what would those numbers of UE be now??? 12-14%? He was not on a good track at all!!! You had a train wreck heading to the train station... Wake up People... Mr Obama spent money and moved the train station out of the way of the train, now he is dragging the train back to the tracks. Once you get it back on the track, off it goes on its own, BUT things take time, Good or Bad!
I don't like the DEM or GOP, they SUCK! Vote new people in who CARE, not purposely fight and block one another, as they HURT people like You and I. Everytime they do it...
whatever

United States

#65 Mar 2, 2010
Diesel wrote:
"These various "tea party" groups do have their constitutional right to voice their oppinion, the problem is many of the branches of this movement are extremists. Many have roots in white supremacy..."
You should stop listening to Keith Olberman, another elitist socialist moron. The left is scared to death of the Tea Party movement because it's made up of those who are paying the bills. They don't care who is in government they just want the out of control spnding & growth of govt. to stop. I won't have the govt tell me which car I can drive or what doctor I can see or even that I have to have insurance.
The left is scared to death because the Tea Party's apparent figurehead is Palin.

And you shouldn't make assumptions to who or what I listen to. I watch Fox as much as CNN, MSNBC, etc...then I make my own assumptions which is usually somewhat in the middle. In this case, one would have to be blind to not see the correlation of the Tea Party movement's "back to basics" view and right-wing extremist's attraction to it. But of course, that's my opinion...or Keith's...whatever.
Reigart

White Haven, PA

#66 Mar 2, 2010
whatever wrote:
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The left is scared to death because the Tea Party's apparent figurehead is Palin.
The Tea Party better keep their eye on ole Sarah. Remember what Pat Buchanan did to the Reform Party. He took it over and purposely trashed it so the Republicans didn't have to worry about the Reform Party taking votes from them in the presidential election. Sarah has lots of time on her hands to get everyone in the Tea Party convinced that she's "one of them".
Andy Edmodns

Spring Grove, PA

#67 Mar 2, 2010
furry wrote:
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One Question you & I will never know! IF Prez Bush had stayed in office, what would those numbers of UE be now??? 12-14%? He was not on a good track at all!!! You had a train wreck heading to the train station... Wake up People... Mr Obama spent money and moved the train station out of the way of the train, now he is dragging the train back to the tracks. Once you get it back on the track, off it goes on its own, BUT things take time, Good or Bad!
I don't like the DEM or GOP, they SUCK! Vote new people in who CARE, not purposely fight and block one another, as they HURT people like You and I. Everytime they do it...
All i know is that Bush had 8 years to do what he did (the good and the bad)...Maybe, just maybe if Obama listened to republican opinions and was actually oriented towards bipartisanship (like he promised) and was transparent (like he promised...instead of rushing things thrugh...maybe, things would be alot better. I personally have several solutions for our country, but no politician will listen to what i have to say...that is why this tea party movement is soo crucial...it gives ordinary people like me and you a voice. According to the polls ( http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_conten... ) 75% of this country is still moderate-conservative....that means the majority of this country hold the same values to be true that this country was founded on..the other 25% wants us to walk around calling eachother comrade. We need to get together, we need to talk about eachother's ideas...and actually LISTEN to what other people have to say! And stop listening to the lying politicians and the biased media...people need to do their research and form an opinion of ther own...
lookkool

Hanover, PA

#68 Mar 6, 2010
Typical Dems wrote:
Heads in the sand pretending it will all go away. Guess what? It's America FINALLY speaking out against the socialist Democrat agenda of the last 75 years. It's going to get a LOT worse. People are fed up.
I have you know Reagan implemented the biggest tax increase on the people in history. So your right wing talking point is a flat out lie. And let me also remind you your taxes havent gone up since Obama took office . You want to be fed up fine just watch who is feeding you you information because you have been lied to.
lookkool

Hanover, PA

#69 Mar 6, 2010
whatever wrote:
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The left is scared to death because the Tea Party's apparent figurehead is Palin.
And you shouldn't make assumptions to who or what I listen to. I watch Fox as much as CNN, MSNBC, etc...then I make my own assumptions which is usually somewhat in the middle. In this case, one would have to be blind to not see the correlation of the Tea Party movement's "back to basics" view and right-wing extremist's attraction to it. But of course, that's my opinion...or Keith's...whatever.
If the left was scared of the tea party people we would be sucking up to them to appease them. What party is doing that ?
lookkool

Hanover, PA

#70 Mar 6, 2010
Andy Edmonds wrote:
Stimulus package waste:
http://www.rightpundits.com/...
Obama tripled the deficit (in one year!!!)
And as far as Jobs go:
Bush: Unemployment raises 3% in 8 years
Obama: Unemployment raises 2% in 1 year
not only that Bush never promised that if we passed his super spending bill that we wouldnt go above 8%...OBAMA did!
You mean the TARP bill that you guys blame on Obama

Since: Jan 08

United States

#71 Mar 6, 2010
I think the Tea Partiers could be taken more seriously if that dimwit Palin wasn't associated with them. She was a thorn in the side of McCain, as she will be with the tea baggers. The problems this country, and the whole world in general face, are way bigger than we are. It's too late to fix this mess.
Andy Edmonds

Spring Grove, PA

#72 Mar 7, 2010
lookkool wrote:
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You mean the TARP bill that you guys blame on Obama
ummm how about the PORKulus bill that Comrade Obama passed...i suggest you do a little research instead of watching CNN...don't be a sheep
Zone1

Brogue, PA

#73 Mar 7, 2010
Democrat School:here is the bill if I can not bribe you, bend over and take it like a man.
Above is rule #1, If you are not following this rule than you fail the class.
next week we will study rule #2
Jim Fitzgerald

Red Lion, PA

#74 Mar 7, 2010
Andy, Citizen Kane, and some others brought up some good points. Others have no idea what they are talking about regarding the Tea Party. Many of those are probably trolls, but here is attempt to clear some things up. If you want further info on any point, just ask me... don't be a child and flame me.

The 'Tea Party movement' is itself just a general grassroots intellectual group of ideas. There is no set political platform, there is no leader, there are no central groups, it has no party affiliation.

I seriously doubt anyone in the TPM is against state and local goverment or government services. And I find it hard to believe anyone who claims we believe that isnt a partisan. It's a ridiculous claim. It is exactly the opposite of what we believe.

Im not sure where several people here are getting their info, but I have not seen nor heard about any rascists in the TPM, but I would not tolerate it if I did. It seems to be a pretty popular Democrat talking point though and I don't think they are going to like the backlash to that tactic.

Last point is about saying we are just now coming out against the debt and spending and never, ever before. That's laughable. Many of us have been pushing for the same things over the last 20, 30, 40 years plus. The current Democrats have just taken it to an unprecedented scary level.

Wake up.
Jim Fitzgerald

Red Lion, PA

#75 Mar 7, 2010
Native Son wrote:
Why on a Thursday? Why not a Saturday when blue collar workers who work Thursday and Friday could attend without sacrificing family time on a school night?
I didn't see an answer to this. I've missed most of the rally's for these exact same reasons.
the dumb cynic

York, PA

#76 Mar 7, 2010
thecynic wrote:
You tea-baggers can protest and gather all you want. Things WILL NOT change.
Yea, wrong again! Did you miss the happenings in VA/NJ/MA? Wait till this November.
Jim Fitzgerald

Red Lion, PA

#77 Mar 10, 2010
You hit the nail on the head TDC. The left has a very poor understanding about what the Tea Party is. That is a grave error on the left's part, which will manifest itself in November.
andy edmonds

Spring Grove, PA

#78 Mar 16, 2010
Jim Fitzgerald wrote:
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I didn't see an answer to this. I've missed most of the rally's for these exact same reasons.
thursday because it is tax day. I planned it for 4:00-7:30 because most people are off of work by then. If this movement is ever going to work, we are going to have to sacrifice some things...the liberals will take any day of the work week and protest (at the tax payers expense) so we have to do what we have to do to make it happen on this day. it is symbolic of the movement. If it really means something to you to be a part of this movement, you will do what you have to to make it..bring the kids or get a baby sitter, get dinner out (fast food), plan for friday on wednesday night. If you work in the evenings, ask to take off...people are so quick to take a sick day when we are sick or have a doctors appt. or just need a mental day...this movement could be the oppertunity for u and i, AMERICANS, the chance to be heard...HOW IMPORTANT IS IT TO YOU?

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