Lawmakersstanding behind Shib's Law

Lawmakersstanding behind Shib's Law

There are 42 comments on the Southern Illinoisan story from Oct 4, 2007, titled Lawmakersstanding behind Shib's Law. In it, Southern Illinoisan reports that:

“When a state worker gets killed or hit the driver can be fined up to $10,000 or get 14 years in prison”

James "Shib" Miller left behind a legacy of dedication and service to the Sesser Fire Protection District after being killed in the line of duty on July 27. via Southern Illinoisan

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leon

Coulterville, IL

#1 Nov 19, 2007
i support it.
tim

Coulterville, IL

#2 Nov 19, 2007
i support it
sweet sue

United States

#3 Nov 21, 2007
I support it to. What a loss. It's sad that something like this has to happen before the laws change. I wish the family lots of luck.
Northwest Benton

Coulterville, IL

#4 Dec 6, 2007
I'm sure your heart is in the right place, folks, but I surely do NOT support it. There is no way that most small town volunteer firemen have the training to shut down a main artery like I-57 properly. The result could be catastrophic. IDOT MUST be involved in something like this.
Soap

Champaign, IL

#5 Dec 7, 2007
I disagree with NW Benton. Volunteer Firefighters go through the same amount of training that is required of any professional firefighter. Shib's law is important and neccessary in the environments that we work in, and it's a shame that someone has to be harmed to bring this need to the public's eye.
Deebo

United States

#6 Dec 9, 2007
They are trained in firefighting skills. Shutting down Rt. 57 would be a major headache, even for a trained engineer. The professionals must handle it.
Todd

Tallahassee, FL

#7 Dec 11, 2007
This law would not shut down the interstate for very long. this simply states that during an extrication, the authority having jurisdiction can temporarely stop traffic for safety. The average extrication takes between 5-30 minutes, thats just long enough to give firefighters a window and allow those who can properely control traffic a chance to arrive. What would likely be done is that a fire engine would be turned sideways in the road to create a roadblock and shield 1st responders until units to control traffic arrive. It's really not a big deal, just do it
Nate

Natick, MA

#8 Mar 16, 2008
Has this law passed yet? You don't hear nothing about it no more.

Since: Nov 07

Buncombe, IL

#9 Mar 19, 2008
Northwest Benton wrote:
I'm sure your heart is in the right place, folks, but I surely do NOT support it. There is no way that most small town volunteer firemen have the training to shut down a main artery like I-57 properly. The result could be catastrophic. IDOT MUST be involved in something like this.
I totally agree with you. Most firemen are not trained for that and I believe it would be asking for disaster and possibly another tragedy! Thats what the State Police or IDOT is for!
Jeremy

United States

#10 Apr 8, 2008
I support it and think it should been done along time ago.
Sassafras

Belle Rive, IL

#11 Apr 9, 2008
Something has to be done, and if IDOT or the ISP are not there, what other choice do the firemen have?

Since: Jan 08

Paducah, KY

#12 Apr 9, 2008
There is almost always a State Trooper close enough by to be on an accident scene in minutes. All he would have to do is call in for back up and as many as needed would be johnny on the spot. They should always be called in the case of any accident. If I was a fireman I would not risk my life trying to stop traffic at an accident scene. Look at how many people are killed while changing a tire on the side of the road. There are a lot of stupid drivers out there and don't give a damn and will buzz by no matter whats happening. I agree something needs to be done but i think there is a better way than having the fireman do it.
Sassafras

Belle Rive, IL

#13 Apr 10, 2008
If the firemen would have to wait until a trooper or IDOT gets to the accident to shut down the highway, valuable time would be lost and maybe even more lives. There has to be an answer somewhere to help these guys out and if the firemen are willing to take the chance of closing the highway themselves, then more training needs to be instituted for them. Remember, most of these small town firemen are volunteer.
misty miller

Coulterville, IL

#14 Apr 23, 2008
my prayers reach out to the ones who have lost their loved ones. there was another accident concerning a greyhound bus just if they would have this law passed this possibly wouldn't have happened to this 29 year old man in sringfield,la. this is Shib's oldest daughter misty miller my family and friends and my dad's fellow fire fighters need all the prayers we can get cause we are going to springfield,Il may 14-15 for the brick memorial for my dad. so who all wants to come and join the people who all come thanks the miller family
misty miller

United States

#15 Apr 23, 2008
We often to forget that the safety of our emergency workers who devote their lives to protect us,friends, families, fellow fire fighters trust me you don't want to go thru all the stuff we are going thru. please have all family friends and fellow fire fighters in your prayers everyday we need them so bad we are going thru a extremly hard time in our lives so please keep praying for the Miller family and friends and fellow fire fighters in your prayers
In Memory of James Glenn"Shib" Miller
his daugther misty miller
misty miller

United States

#16 Apr 23, 2008
i so agree with you i am Shib's oldest daughter misty miller i have posted on here 2 times make sure 2 read it
Thanks The Miller Family
bill

United States

#17 Apr 23, 2008
what the hell are u think'n you don't agree with it u r srewed up!!!!!!!!!!
Northwest Benton

Coulterville, IL

#18 Apr 24, 2008
bill wrote:
what the hell are u think'n you don't agree with it u r srewed up!!!!!!!!!!
A very compelling argument, Bill. You'll convince multitudes like that.

I have lived in four different communities in southern Illinois, and while I am thankful for the volunteer firefighters, I have to be honest. In these towns, the firefighters have consisted mainly of high school drop-outs and the like. Don't get me wrong, they are risking their lives providing a valuable service, but I simply don't trust their competence when it comes to traffic control on a major vessel such as Route 57. It is simply out of their area of expertise. Trained professionals are needed or greater tragedies could occur.

The loss of Shib Miller was horrific. But, we can't be guided by our emotions when it comes to legilation as potentially deadly as this.
Todd

Tallahassee, FL

#19 Apr 24, 2008
I will half agree with you on the point that Franklin county has only 2 full- Time Career fire depts and the rest are volunteer. Yes, Those Professional firefighters from West Frankfort and Benton will be much better suited to control traffic but that doesnt mean it cant be done. Currently training is taking place at area colleges on this new law and it is teaching 1st responders the rights and responsibilities of shutting down the interstate. Do you really think that with the economy the way it is, state Police cruisers will be cruising up and down the road anymore than possible. Most will now start sitting places to monitor the traffic and like in Shibs case, they could be over 30 miles away and over 15min late of 1st resonders arriving on scene. that 15 minutes is too long and not a chance that anyones willing to take. I see you point but sadly you are wrong, sorry
Northwest Benton

Coulterville, IL

#20 Apr 24, 2008
Local law enforcement is always just as close as any fire department. Even if it wasn't, we still can't place this many lives in unskilled hands. Sorry.

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