Mobile 3rd most miserable city in the US
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#1 Apr 1, 2013
I think this is the issue in this entire region though, not just Mobile. You have to have a car to do ANYTHING & to even get a job that pays absolutely nothing. If you're lucky to even have a job it won't even pay @ the very very high end something like 12 or 13 an hour & most of the time its more like 8 or 9 an hour, BEFORE TAXES.
And most jobs are labor jobs, dirty, smelly & you have bosses that bust your chops for the smallest thing. That's been my experience of living & working in this region.
I think the biggest thing for me though is the sheer painful lack of any effective mass transit. It takes FOREVER to get any where even with a car & you really stack up the miles getting around because most jobs & grocery stores are miles away from where people live.
I guess to sum it up there's just too much sprawl. When this area was created & expanded there was no urban core. Like in Mobile there are at least 5 or 6 different "central cores". There's Airport Blvd, Tillman's Corner, Govt Street area, the University area, North Mobile, downtown, then there are the suburbs that fly over all the place.
Its too hard to get around, too time consuming & with the price of gas it doesn't really leave much room to save up money to get out of the hole.
#2 Apr 6, 2013
Oh, my God. This place is HORRIBLE, and this is about as much proof as I'll ever need! There's absolutely nothing to do unless you have a car, and even then, where ya gonna go? Job market is horrible because you pretty much have to know someone already in the door to even have a chance. Mom said she's never been without a job for over 25+ years. That changed when we first moved down here, and the shortest time she had one was only about 2 months because of a company-wide layoff. Hasn't found one since and right now we're in serious danger of losing the house.
School system's pretty lousy, too. Friends are depressing and constantly bored, and it's starting to affect me as well, to the point where I'm irritated by everything THEY do...
I'm trying to save up some cash to move back to Seattle. I was seriously mad at my mother for moving down here when I was a kid, and I still sorta resent her for it. 7 years wasted. 20 years old turning 21 Sent my sis up there after a semester of college down here, and she said it's tons better. From the food, job market and education systems, transportation, etc. I totally believe her. Probably a better place for an aspiring artist, because down here, there's a severe lack of open-mindedness or creativity...sigh.
This place is the pits, and I keep telling my online friends from across the country that to never even consider moving down here for as long as they live. They joke about it, but I'm like, dead serious about it. They think I'm being over-dramatic.
Does anyone else here agree, or have any stories/experiences to share?
#3 Apr 6, 2013
Agreed. I live in an area that's practically on the border between 2-3(?) different areas on the map (or so I keep hearing.) When people ask me where I live, I'm never sure what to tell them half the time time because they don't know the area I'm talking about, or it's farther than what they'd consider to be a certain part of town. When I first moved here, I got different street address in the mail ranging from Eight Mile, Mobile, Saraland, Prichard, North Mobile, the works. I opted for telling people I live near a private college, but they claim they've never even heard of it. It's friggin' named after the city, for Christ's sake! C'mon!!
Also, there aren't even any bus systems in the area I live in. Heard that there used to be at one point, but as far as I'm concerned, it's an urban legend. All of the friends I made live closer to town than I could ever hope to get on my own, so either me or them have to drive across town for half an hour or longer, and that's only on 1 trip. The only times I can even consider getting out of the house are Saturdays because of school, otherwise I wouldn't even be home half the time.
And don't get me started on directions. A lot of the streets I come across are skewed and backwards as I dunno what. Finding street names on a map is confusing because they're constantly named after some famous black person, or something weird entirely, and I'm bad with names. In other places, streets are set up on a grid system, laid out from 1st Ave. to X Ave. All lined up in a neat little row, and it's easy to remember. Here, you just point to a direction and head that way, hoping you get lucky enough to not get lost.
#4 Apr 6, 2013
Not too familiar with the Seattle area but I think in general you are correct. Another issue is that its very difficult to find any kind of transportation. You either have to fly or take a bus to leave, Amtrak doesn't even come here. You're also correct -- no real bar scene, no "art scene"(though that's not really my thing), no party areas besides maybe downtown & you HAVE TO HAVE A CAR to get around. Problem being if you go out its going to set you back probably 75 bucks if you just have to take a cab.
They regulate cab fares & other things like that in bigger cities. Another thing I noticed is that in the Pac NW -- Portland & Seattle are about the same as Pensacola is to Mobile -- only Seattle/Portland are MUCH bigger & near the size of Atlanta.
I think the problem with Mobile though is similar to the problems you'll find anywhere away from the NE Beltway or the west coast. In New York or LA or the Bay Area -- its much easier to ride trains or buses & everything.
I think the job problem is similar to what you mentioned -- gotta know people to even get a sh*t job that pays nothing. Its great if you're a redneck who likes to fish or hunt I guess but most people aren't really into that "scene."
So most people end up having to "find their own stuff to do" because there's no youth culture or any social scene outside of churches.
It took me damn near a half hour to get from I-10 up to around Cottage Hill. I dunno -- its kind of like southern California -- all sprawl. Too much land -- only no mass transit, the restaurants are all spread far apart(the quality ones @ least) & most people have to move out to the edge of town or the country because land "in town" just costs too much.
I dunno -- at your age take my advice friend -- save up a few hundred bucks & go get you a Greyhound ticket @ the Greyhound station on Govt Blvd. Go visit your relative up that way. I wish you luck.
#5 Apr 6, 2013
Yep -- back in the day the problem was that with segregation you had black & white sections. The black sections now have "Dr. MLK Blvd" or some other named street.
You're also correct -- in bigger cities you have "K street" or "M street" or 4th avenue or 7th avenue, that sorta thing.
This city wasn't built as a grid, there was no urban planning -- the city just let it expand on its own without any coherent plan of structuring growth.
I guess integration had a negative impact in that regard. You have to be from the area to really know where anything is.
And most people have to drive damn near an hour one way just to get where most of the work is. If I lived in say Jersey I'd take a subway into town & then leave the same way.
Cars are expensive man. You gotta make @ least what? 40k or more just to maintain a crappy car & keep it gassed & fixed up?
#6 Apr 9, 2013
To all of you POS yankees above: Delta is ready when you are!!
#7 Apr 9, 2013
Nobody's hating on Mobile because they hate the south dude, just the lack of jobs & the near impossible way to get around town unless you're semi rich or rich.
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