OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, Sta...

OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

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Bud

United States

#49950 Oct 20, 2013
Packing Heat wrote:
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You're welcome and sure will let you know. I will say this... I am a former Marine, Air Wing Division and still have several friends active and retired so I hear a lot of the rumors going on.
Some I can verify and some, nothing can be found.
What I find interesting now is, when Obama or any other high up gather Soldiers up for their usual media photo-ops, everyone is now disarmed... even in war zones.
If you recall, I added Lindsey Graham (R) to the list to vote against. He is in on the Fake Terrorist Attack the Obama Regime was attempting in Charleston S.C. and make no mistake about it, he is a RINO.
The links within the one I posted this morning are some you can keep an eye on because from what I understand Obama is going to try again, that we shall see. Some of his nonsense makes Watergate seem like childs play.
Graham is a player in the Washington sewer. Your posts are disturbing and so many high ranking military men with decades of world experience fired, retired and effectively shut up from the beginning of Obama's reign is unprecedented.

Watergate was nothing next to this. So your a marine? LOL, very happy to meet you sir and thank you for your service!
Packing Heat

Chelsea, OK

#49951 Oct 20, 2013
JAG wrote:
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I see she didn't answer your question hits to close to home I guess.
P.H. appreciate your posts, sir.


You're welcome JAG... more to come as we uncover this corrupt Purple Lip Kenyan and his Minions.
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#49952 Oct 20, 2013
Bud wrote:
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Now under ObamaCare he would be working 29 hours a week instead of 39 and have a large deduction and co-pay.
How would that have helped him?
It sure was nice of all those crazy EVIL Christian jihadist charities to help out I wonder how much assistance your brother received from muslim organizations?
You seemed to gloss over the fact that my brother is DEAD.

And your a xenophobic hater and there's no difference between you and your ilk and the mullah and the mullah's henchmen in Iran.

You tea pots and Republicans are for cruel policies that are detrimental to people's health and well being and just as they do you go around wrapping yourselves in the US Flag and hoisting a cross.

It's authoritarian fascism, plain and simple.
Packing Heat

Chelsea, OK

#49953 Oct 20, 2013
Bud wrote:
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Graham is a player in the Washington sewer. Your posts are disturbing and so many high ranking military men with decades of world experience fired, retired and effectively shut up from the beginning of Obama's reign is unprecedented.
Watergate was nothing next to this. So your a marine? LOL, very happy to meet you sir and thank you for your service!


Thank You as well. If the retarded libtards were to start another civil war... I'm Ready.
As a Former Marine here... I can hit an ants ass in a hail storm at 90 paces... Libtards are even easier, lol.
Bud

United States

#49954 Oct 20, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
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You seemed to gloss over the fact that my brother is DEAD.
Your delusional. I never glossed over anything. Cancer is a horrible gut wrenching experience for the patient and the family, friends who have experience it.

Did you conveniently forget my family has suffered cancer too?

If your brother was working 39 hours because Maynards was working him under the 40 hours rules, how would he have benefited under ObamaCare, when Maynards would have implemented the 29 hrs a week rule?

He would have made less money and would have been required to purchase insurance with high deductibles and co-pays? He still would have suffered and he still would have needed help from his family and all those nasty Christian organizations you have vilified.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#49955 Oct 20, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
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No generalities, tell us about the loved on being affected negatively by Obamacare. If you can't give specifics, it's not happening.
Because of a certain poster I will not put more personal info than I already have on here.
Now as far as I know you could have made those incidents with Obamacare up!

Now since you keep telling us how well you have done for yourself and how smart you are why wasn't your brother doing better than just working at a job with no benefits. Now who fault was that? His or the people of this country's fault.
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#49957 Oct 20, 2013
Bud wrote:
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Your delusional. I never glossed over anything. Cancer is a horrible gut wrenching experience for the patient and the family, friends who have experience it.
Did you conveniently forget my family has suffered cancer too?
If your brother was working 39 hours because Maynards was working him under the 40 hours rules, how would he have benefited under ObamaCare, when Maynards would have implemented the 29 hrs a week rule?
He would have made less money and would have been required to purchase insurance with high deductibles and co-pays? He still would have suffered and he still would have needed help from his family and all those nasty Christian organizations you have vilified.
Well all Maynards did is put their profits ahead of their employees and that was way before Obamacare.

His wife's employer only gave employee's insurance coverage and not the employee's family since they couldn't afford it and that was way before Obamacare. After my brother's death her employer moved the business to Texas and now they don't even offer that.

Oh the Christian orgs, it was Catholic orgs that covered it and even they say that expecting local churches to meet the needs of the millions without healthcare insurance is ridiculous. My sister in laws local church was there in only one way. To provide food and comfort AFTER he died.

And one thing Repubs never talk about they already have a form of Obamacare in subsidies. One thing, no matter how high my insurance gets, since we are self employed we can deduct the premiums 100%. If that's not Obamacare then your full of bull. It's just that we were profitable to have the money to even pay the monthly premiums of $1,500 a month just for my self, for the whole family it was $2,000 a month. Not every business can afford it and they run the risk of losing their business because they can't afford the health insurance premiums.

What you tea pots did was try to subvert the law and hold the American public hostage to try and get their way. And now when it comes to voting they sure don't want people to do that either.

They hate women as this commentator for Red State put it:

"Nope, the majority of women are hostile to Republicans. This is because the majority of women are either incapable of understanding basic economics or they like the emotional feel good state of ignorant liberalism. I really don't know which and it really matters little because neither can be corrected as evidenced by the percentage of women who vote Republican."

I can tell you this, without the 19th Amendment the Democrats would be a foot note."

The Amendment giving women the vote. And he had a lot of like minded supporters. LOL http://www.redstate.com/2013/10/18/the-aborti...

Like I said..you all only cherry pick the parts you like in the Constitution.

You and your ilk are Fascists!
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#49959 Oct 20, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>Because of a certain poster I will not put more personal info than I already have on here.
Now as far as I know you could have made those incidents with Obamacare up!
Now since you keep telling us how well you have done for yourself and how smart you are why wasn't your brother doing better than just working at a job with no benefits. Now who fault was that? His or the people of this country's fault.
I don't even know that your the person who you say you are.

You know Tammy Faye, your just a person that would sacrifice anyone's life if it meant you having to spend one penny more on your health if Medicare wouldn't pay it.

Live up to what you want the rest of us to do...Drop Medicare, get health insurance for you and your husband....quit living off of the government dole. You must have money for your nice large10 year old house on seven acres that is paid for.

Get off of government provided health care. Put your money where your mouth is.
Bud

United States

#49960 Oct 20, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
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Well all Maynards did is put their profits ahead of their employees and that was way before Obamacare.
His wife's employer only gave employee's insurance coverage and not the employee's family since they couldn't afford it and that was way before Obamacare. After my brother's death her employer moved the business to Texas and now they don't even offer that.
Oh the Christian orgs, it was Catholic orgs that covered it and even they say that expecting local churches to meet the needs of the millions without healthcare insurance is ridiculous. My sister in laws local church was there in only one way. To provide food and comfort AFTER he died.
And one thing Repubs never talk about they already have a form of Obamacare in subsidies. One thing, no matter how high my insurance gets, since we are self employed we can deduct the premiums 100%. If that's not Obamacare then your full of bull. It's just that we were profitable to have the money to even pay the monthly premiums of $1,500 a month just for my self, for the whole family it was $2,000 a month. Not every business can afford it and they run the risk of losing their business because they can't afford the health insurance premiums.
Just imagine how the elderly who have worked and paid into medicare their entire life feel to see the democratic party and Pres. Obama claim they will protect them (campaign promises) when the nasty mean republicans will take away their benefits only to have Obama and the democrats STEAL 678 billion of medicare funds and put it in ObamaCare.

Seniors aren't that stupid they know to take from one group such as seniors on (medicare)to give to another group (ObamaCare) will reduce their benefits and availability of healthcare!
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#49961 Oct 20, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
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I don't even know that your the person who you say you are.
You know Tammy Faye, your just a person that would sacrifice anyone's life if it meant you having to spend one penny more on your health if Medicare wouldn't pay it.
Live up to what you want the rest of us to do...Drop Medicare, get health insurance for you and your husband....quit living off of the government dole. You must have money for your nice large10 year old house on seven acres that is paid for.
Get off of government provided health care. Put your money where your mouth is.
Funny Justi. I was not talking about me! I was not talking about Medicare. I was talking about people that have good health insurance thru either their work place or buying it themselves. I was talking about anyone old enough to get their own health insurance either thru the work place or on their own I was talking about people that have not yet hit that age of Medicare. In other words probably talking about the majority of people lets say 21 to 64! So Justi you have a personal agenda but it is not ok for others?
As for who has the money you have bragged plenty to what you have so shut the hick up. You are not elite or any better than anyone else and guess what this earth does not revolve around you and your problems. Everyone has problems and in sometime of their life will deal with either them or a love one having a major illness.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#49962 Oct 20, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
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I don't even know that your the person who you say you are.
You know Tammy Faye, your just a person that would sacrifice anyone's life if it meant you having to spend one penny more on your health if Medicare wouldn't pay it.
Live up to what you want the rest of us to do...Drop Medicare, get health insurance for you and your husband....quit living off of the government dole. You must have money for your nice large10 year old house on seven acres that is paid for.
Get off of government provided health care. Put your money where your mouth is.
Telling me to get of medicare. Hoe funny. Health insurance before Obamacare and now with Obamacare will now cover people once they hit that age of 65! Now again why did your brother stay with a company that did not offer health insurance when you seemed to good in providing for yourself.
Bud

United States

#49963 Oct 20, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
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I don't even know that your the person who you say you are.
You know Tammy Faye, your just a person that would sacrifice anyone's life if it meant you having to spend one penny more on your health if Medicare wouldn't pay it.
Live up to what you want the rest of us to do...Drop Medicare, get health insurance for you and your husband....quit living off of the government dole. You must have money for your nice large10 year old house on seven acres that is paid for.
Get off of government provided health care. Put your money where your mouth is.
BACK OFF ONE SECOND, madam. If I recall correctly Tamara and her husband worked and PAID INTO MEDICARE and SOCIAL SECURITY. They have earned the right to be receiving benefits from both programs!
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#49964 Oct 20, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>Funny Justi. I was not talking about me! I was not talking about Medicare. I was talking about people that have good health insurance thru either their work place or buying it themselves. I was talking about anyone old enough to get their own health insurance either thru the work place or on their own I was talking about people that have not yet hit that age of Medicare. In other words probably talking about the majority of people lets say 21 to 64! So Justi you have a personal agenda but it is not ok for others?
As for who has the money you have bragged plenty to what you have so shut the hick up. You are not elite or any better than anyone else and guess what this earth does not revolve around you and your problems. Everyone has problems and in sometime of their life will deal with either them or a love one having a major illness.
Oh you just like to question other people but we should leave you out of it! Your a hypocritical beyotch that only put her time in on her Mrs. degree and retired at the age of what..28? You didn't put even the 40 hours at the work place.

Your husband was self employed and he sure took the deduction for your health care even if at that time was not the 100%.. so even then you received government support for your health care.

Get over yourself. Obamacare is the law.

Give up your federally funded healthcare....you said your mother didn't take her social security and worked her whole life if that was the truth...evidently your not the person your mother was...your a socialist and a sponge off of a person that worked too...lol
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#49965 Oct 20, 2013
Bud wrote:
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BACK OFF ONE SECOND, madam. If I recall correctly Tamara and her husband worked and PAID INTO MEDICARE and SOCIAL SECURITY. They have earned the right to be receiving benefits from both programs!
Tamara didn't work and retire...Her husband subsidized her medicare...They should have made him pay double for his medicare deduction if their going to count it for both of them.

I still pay into SS and Medicare every quarter. I still work. Tamara was a sponge like she calls others.
Bud

United States

#49966 Oct 20, 2013
There is only one bitch I've seen on this thread and she is rabid, radical, scorched earth believer who demonizes everyone who isn't a socialist.

Do you relish the future executions of the elderly under this dictator?

Your insides are rotten, madam and what ails you no doctor or health plan will cure!
Bud

United States

#49967 Oct 20, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
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Tamara didn't work and retire...Her husband subsidized her medicare...They should have made him pay double for his medicare deduction if their going to count it for both of them.
I still pay into SS and Medicare every quarter. I still work. Tamara was a sponge like she calls others.
She raised a family and they flourished, she and her husband paid for their college educations didn't they? They are all contributing members in society are they not?

You have more nuclear discharge than a toxic waste dump.
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#49969 Oct 20, 2013
Like I said you all are hypocrites through and through. Budly..

We worked to but without Obamacare you wanted me to hand over to the insurance companies the money they extorted from me. They didn't provide me with $1,500 a month health care for what they charged. They simply saw an opportunity to extort premium increases every month knowing I couldn't go anywhere else if I dropped them, I would have NO health insurance...and couldn't get any health insurance will they made billions in profit/

You people don't have a clue....and your arguments always are plain old lies...mixed with hypocracy.
Bud

United States

#49970 Oct 20, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
Like I said you all are hypocrites through and through. Budly..
We worked to but without Obamacare you wanted me to hand over to the insurance companies the money they extorted from me. They didn't provide me with $1,500 a month health care for what they charged. They simply saw an opportunity to extort premium increases every month knowing I couldn't go anywhere else if I dropped them, I would have NO health insurance...and couldn't get any health insurance will they made billions in profit/
You people don't have a clue....and your arguments always are plain old lies...mixed with hypocracy.
Utter nonsense. I stated earlier but you conveniently again failed to mention, I have heard no one say they didn't agree with the addition of pre-existing conditions coverage. Or have I heard anyone say anything regarding the allowance of children and young adults being on their parents insurance to 26.

That means me and no one including Tamara has said they don't want you or anyone else to have insurance.

I unlike you do not tell LIES.

Lies are a waste of time and do no good for anyone including the LIAR.

Again, we could have fixed the problem with insurance without wrecking the entire healthcare system but ObamaCare was shoved down the country's throat in the dead of night and it's law so now everyone will suffer the consequences. The elderly had their money in medicare stolen to go into ObamaCare I notice you ignore their loss is your gain because you benefit from their loss.

Are you more important than the elderly who paid into medicare their entire life?

I think not!
Bud

United States

#49971 Oct 20, 2013
CBS's 60 Minutes is doing a expose' on corruption in Washington D.C. I think it's scheduled for 7 p.m. CST.
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#49972 Oct 20, 2013
Bud wrote:
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She raised a family and they flourished, she and her husband paid for their college educations didn't they? They are all contributing members in society are they not?
You have more nuclear discharge than a toxic waste dump.
So she says, but to bad she sure loves to hold every other person up as lazy because they have a job that pays minimum wage or works for a company that doesn't pay benefits.

You know if her husband had divorced her like 50% do, Tamara would be one of those working and then her harangues might have meaning. Also she's lily white which sure don't hurt. Neither did the MS monster visit here either. And pretty much every body has kids. Republican love of lowering wages so companies can make sky high profits doesn't let women have the choice of staying home with their kids anymore.

Tamara and her husband collected subsidies for health care while they were self employed and that's all Obamacare does for every American. And the self employed deduction doesn't have any amount that people can make in profit either. Everybody is subsidized...Obamacare sure doesn't do that. And that pisses Tamara off now that her husband is retired. Before it was A-OK.

Hypocrisy mixed with a dose of narcissism that's all you TeaPot/Repubs have going for you.

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