Florida teachers wonder if they'll ever get their bonuses; stat...

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Top Florida teachers who have been waiting months for promised bonuses wonder whether the state is going to stiff them, although officials who have been putting them off say the check will be in the mail soon.

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Apr 6, 2009
 
$5.000 bonuses in this economy. The Florida government wants to raise taxes to provide more school money. The school system is broke. Please tell the public what is really going on here.
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Apr 6, 2009
 
This is why I never went for national board certification.
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Apr 6, 2009
 
If this was a done deal, another the words were there in black and white that the teachers who did this program, passed and received the certification, then they should have the right to sue the governement for all of the money owed and any grief this has caused them.

When this is the attitude that the government takes, and feels it is right in doing so, it is time every damn teacher across the state of Florida walked out the door and said no more. The testing is done for the year. Just walk out. They aren't going to be able to do anything but give in.
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Apr 6, 2009
 
I am not an nb teacher, just a taxpayer, but I do think it is unfair to promise people a bonus for going through a rigorous training process, then when they have spent all that time and done all that work to withhold the bonus. There were millions to spend on various state legislators' pet projects such as Sansom's boondoggle, get the money back and pay the teachers.
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Apr 6, 2009
 
Vote out this legislature at the next election. It's time to send a message to the idiots in Tallahassee.

Properly fund education! Florida is at the bottom and this is a wealthy state which is no longer a low cost state. Sunshine alone isn't enough to attract teachers anymore.

As some have already said, this was promised by the state and the state ought to carry out its promise.
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Apr 6, 2009
 
teacher wrote:
This is why I never went for national board certification.
How lucky that you could tell the future. One would think you were just another lazy teacher if it weren't for that.
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#7
Apr 6, 2009
 
Bonus checks? I think they should be neighborly and not accept them. That does not apply to the folks that actually voted that mess of a President in office. Half of them probably wont have jobs next year. Hey teachers, what have the democrats actually done for you?
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#8
Apr 6, 2009
 
A deal is a deal that if you went through the Certification process you would get a bonus check. This is not to be confused with the Merit Pay plan that the Teachers union opposed.
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Apr 6, 2009
 
How do you budget for what you don't have? Don't count your chickens before they hatch!!!!
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Apr 6, 2009
 
Parent wrote:
Vote out this legislature at the next election. It's time to send a message to the idiots in Tallahassee.
Properly fund education! Florida is at the bottom and this is a wealthy state which is no longer a low cost state. Sunshine alone isn't enough to attract teachers anymore.
As some have already said, this was promised by the state and the state ought to carry out its promise.
OUTCUMBANT!!!! Get rid of all career politicians !!!
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Apr 6, 2009
 
I don't get it. Why are we bribing teachers, especially when school budgets are being cut so drastically, to hone their skills? In the business world you do that on your own in order to keep competative in a competative workforce. And has anyone added up what the payouts are totaling???

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Apr 6, 2009
 
The teachers were told if they received this certification they would receive a bonus. It's not free to get this certification. The teacher pays for it out of their pocket. If it was promised, it should be paid. Of anyone in this country, teachers deserve a bonus and higher pay! The school board positions are part time, yet they receive payment equal to a full time teacher. If there are cuts to be made, it should start with the school board. Teachers are the ones with the MOST influence on our children today. They are raising the next generation.
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Apr 6, 2009
 
acc wrote:
I don't get it. Why are we bribing teachers, especially when school budgets are being cut so drastically, to hone their skills? In the business world you do that on your own in order to keep competative in a competative workforce. And has anyone added up what the payouts are totaling???
B/c in business you "get ahead" which generally equal better compensation.

The teachers paid out of their own pocket for the certification. In exchange the state of Florida paid them better than those teachers with only a state certification. In this case the better pay is in the form of a bonus.
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Apr 6, 2009
 
Yes, the bonus was promised and should be given. However, some of the worst teachers are board certified ones. That certification doesn't mean a thing.
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Apr 6, 2009
 
I'm tired of the career politicians who bend, fold and mutilate all the promises they have made. Vote them out, out, out. Take them out of their ivory towers. They work for us, not the other way around.
Teachers, police and fire services; these are the esential services for a capable community. If you made a promise, keep it.
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Apr 6, 2009
 
Say what you'll do and do what you say. I believe it is known and integrity, something most politicians are sorely lacking in.
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Apr 6, 2009
 
brweb wrote:
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B/c in business you "get ahead" which generally equal better compensation.
The teachers paid out of their own pocket for the certification. In exchange the state of Florida paid them better than those teachers with only a state certification. In this case the better pay is in the form of a bonus.
That's not always true. I work for a large corporation, and that question is posed to management often. Compensation is important to everyone, and employees often ask about higher compensation due to their completing college, or a higher degree. The answer is we don't compensate for that. Now, if there is a better paying job open within the company, and your drive and hard work in having aquired a higher degree which is required for the job, lands you that job, then you're education has payed off for you monitarily. I see teachers having the same advantage. A higher education can lead to a higher paying job within the educational field.
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#18
Apr 6, 2009
 
They pitch "heat" from the very top in this state.
That money was earned and not only should have been paid by now should include interest for the period of delay.
Crist is a lying bus turd.
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Apr 6, 2009
 
Orlando Native wrote:
Of anyone in this country, teachers deserve a bonus and higher pay! Teachers are the ones with the MOST influence on our children today. They are raising the next generation.
If you look minimum teacher salaries in Florida, most teachers start at 32-35k. Even if you take the lowest paying county for beginning teachers (27,900), that comes to a $145 per day pay rate, based on 185 work days per year.
http://www.fldoe.org/eias/eiaspubs/word/tchsa...
I AM a teacher, and recently graduated college. We are not highly educated. Don't believe me? Check any university bachelors of education degree requirements.
The degrees are not harder to earn than any other BA. IMO, they're easier than most BA degrees. I switched majors a few times before I decided I wanted to teach, so experienced first hand harder curriculum than education majors face.
While I agree with you that school board members should be paid less than teachers, teacher salaries are comparable to similarly educated profesionals.
As far as being influential, yes we are. That's where GOOD teachers find their rewards.
As for raising the next generation, you're just wrong. Parents raise the next generation.
Teachers, no matter how dedicated, can never fill that role. Another thing GOOD teachers know.
We do our best with the unparented kids out there, and take our rewards whenever we have success.
Any teacher whining about not being paid enough for: raising someone else's kids, the long hours, the politics of the job, the thanklessness of the profession, etc, just needs to get out of teaching.
He or she can go back to college, get any other BA, and change careers. They'll start out at close to the same pay, but will work more than 185 days per year.
I would bet that 8 out of 10 who switch will still whine about the long hours, lack of appreciation, politics of the job, and switch to griping about pain-in-the-rear coworkers in place of unparented children.
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Apr 6, 2009
 
Parent wrote:
Vote out this legislature at the next election. It's time to send a message to the idiots in Tallahassee.
Properly fund education! Florida is at the bottom and this is a wealthy state which is no longer a low cost state. Sunshine alone isn't enough to attract teachers anymore.
As some have already said, this was promised by the state and the state ought to carry out its promise.
Isn't it odd that FL has the second highest number of these highly achieved teachers...yet continue to have some of the worst school systems in the country? That should tell us all something...it's time to take a GOOD HARD LOOK at our local school boards. How they budget, plan, spread their resources, etc, should all be closely examined.

Furthermore, I find it ironic that these teachers who have actually followed through with the performance standards required to obtain the bonuses are encountering these obstacles while AIG execs who have proven to be totally ineffective in their performances got whopping bonuses. Something's very wrong with this picture. The education and future of our children doesn't warrant top priority consideration, but the banking industry who put us in this predicament to begin with is flourishing??? This country needs a HUGE wake up call!

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