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gr8 p8tri0t

Savannah, TN

#23 Nov 13, 2012
Amerimom wrote:
Please just use your brains!!! How long do you think the few of us working Americans can foot the bill for rent, food, healthcare, daycare,infant care etc. for the masses that are growing exponentially faster than us. It just won't work!!!! If you have half a brain and read at all, you can see it has failed all over Europe!!!!!! When the government is in control the system fails.....social security, postal service, oh great.... Now they will destroy our healthcare!!! Get the government out of our business!!! Read a book on socialism or communism and then see how stupid your liberal chatter sounds!!!
You are so right...
What these democrats fail to realize is we are tired of it all. As long as they are "getting theirs" they are happy and do not care at what cost it is to everyone else. Democrats fail to realize that in it's simplest form this is SOCIALISM, that leads to COMMUNISM. How can you claim to be liberal, in support of the rights of the little man, when you are driving this country right into a state of Communist Control.

I am tired, frankly...
I go to food giant and buy pick 5's to give my family meat, when I watch lazy azz people that I know could be working, buying steaks, roasts, premium cuts of chicken and pork, all at my expense and everyone like me that works hard, one whom rarely asks for anything, at the expense of their laziness...

Tennessee is only a couple hundred signatures away from reaching it's goal, Texas far exceeds by twice the required.

Unfortunately the Federal Government will never condone succession for the citizens request of a particular state, especially when it is not supported by the elected Government of that state. Tennessee receives far to much Federal Subsidized money for that to happen.

What Obama and his constituents should take note of is that this is NOT sore losers, but the United States' own children who are crying out for change...

All you democrats should be the ones to leave, China is communist, and would love to have you.

Our country was built on the principle that FREE men, have the opportunity to make their own life with little interference from the government...GOVERN YOURSELF!!!!
get real

United States

#24 Nov 13, 2012
The issue is not a "Democrat" or "Republican" problem, it is a long going problem of selfish propaganda in all forms of our government. The need for money, power, and being on top will eventually topple our government if we let it. I don't believe in secession, I love the United States and will not give up who I am.....but we can demand change!!
shirely u cant be serious

Inverness, FL

#25 Nov 13, 2012
its all about the benjeramins $100 bills to u n me. 10 years after had in right in 1970 i love to change the world but i dont know whatto do. senators stop the wars u money grabbing ,main war supplying b.a.s.t.a.r.d.s.
RGB

United States

#26 Nov 14, 2012
get real wrote:
The issue is not a "Democrat" or "Republican" problem, it is a long going problem of selfish propaganda in all forms of our government. The need for money, power, and being on top will eventually topple our government if we let it. I don't believe in secession, I love the United States and will not give up who I am.....but we can demand change!!
You can demand whatever you want and won't get it. The People in Amerika do not stick together at all. The government divided everyone and filled it's citizens with distrust toward eachother. That's why I left. I love my country but chose not to live under the early stages of Martial Law anymore. It's not the same place I grew up in. May God Bless us All.
embarrassin

Tucker, GA

#27 Nov 14, 2012
shirely u cant be serious wrote:
its all about the benjeramins $100 bills to u n me. 10 years after had in right in 1970 i love to change the world but i dont know whatto do. senators stop the wars u money grabbing ,main war supplying b.a.s.t.a.r.d.s.
Do what?
what to do

Inverness, FL

#28 Nov 14, 2012
embarrassin more like embarisen if u didnt know most of the companies that supply goods and materials to the war r owned by senators so of the wars must go on. do the math senators piggy bank stays full. got it now?
u b idiot

Lexington, TN

#29 Nov 18, 2012
I love these posts. It shows just how stupid and uneducated people are to think a state can just decide to leave the federal union they agree to join. It is an illegal act, has no basis in the Constitution and has been tried numerous times and even a war fought over it. Impossible to happen.
Jimmy

Cleveland, MS

#30 Nov 19, 2012
u b idiot wrote:
I love these posts. It shows just how stupid and uneducated people are to think a state can just decide to leave the federal union they agree to join. It is an illegal act, has no basis in the Constitution and has been tried numerous times and even a war fought over it. Impossible to happen.
Key word but you left something out, they agreed to join under certain restrictions of the general goverment. So I pose a question to you, did the states form first or was the federal goverment formed before them? And I would like to know just what you think the constitution is?
u b idiot

Lexington, TN

#31 Nov 19, 2012
Jimmy wrote:
<quoted text>
Key word but you left something out, they agreed to join under certain restrictions of the general goverment. So I pose a question to you, did the states form first or was the federal goverment formed before them? And I would like to know just what you think the constitution is?
What about states that formed after the Constitution like Utah?

States freely gave up complete sovereign control to form a complete whole. States still have tons of control. I don't get why people think otherwise. There are few states that would survive without being in the union. Most states are landlocked, have little internal revenue and some no natural resources. It is a marriage. Not a perfect one but overall a happy one.

The Constitution, which the states agreed to, give instructions to become a state. By my count that means the power naturally flows from federal to state. States have to petition to Congress ( created by states). States have no power legally to secede and shouldn't.

The Constitution is not in concrete but the Federal creation is. The original Constitution also had this: Article 1, Section 2, Paragraph 3 and no 19th and certainly not 13th or 14th amendment.

Some states, up till the last decade, had laws making inter-racial marriages illegal.

States willingly gave the power to the federal government. That is a fact. Even Madison, the "writer" of the Constitution thought that stability trumped the rights of numerous individual ones.
timmy

Elizabethton, TN

#32 Nov 19, 2012
i think we should leave this nation and form another nation.it seems that the elected iberal polticans think we have a endless supply of money and just want to keep spending money and not cutting back on spending. every year our local,state and federal governments spend more than the previous year. this has to stop. a city,county,state or the federal government should not spend more each year. it is our money they are spending and not theirs. i say if they wantto keep spending more,then they should take that money from their own checking accounts and spend it and stop spending the tax payer money. then i bet these polticans would cut back on the amount of money they spent and also the government employee should not make no more than 50k a year no matter what their job title is or who they are. anything more than that is wasted money. the average american does noit make more tha 30k a year and most make less than that.
timmy

Elizabethton, TN

#33 Nov 19, 2012
the stated do have the right by law to secede from this nation. our founding fathers mad sure of that. this nation is not we the federal government. it is WE THE PEOPLE. it is we the people that have the power to say if we want to leave the union or not. america is a republic and not a democarcy. so that means any state has the right to vote and if the votes sayyes to leaving this union,they have that right under the constitution and bill of rights. a good lawyer will go back and study what the founding fathers said and what they thought about a government that did not listen to all and only want to force their one sided agenda on others that donot want that agenda forced upon them. if a young teenager can prove the states have the right by law to secede from the union,then a lawyer can use the same laws and thoughts passed down to us by our founding fathers to prove that.the point is that 50% of americans back liberals.50% of americans back republicans. instead of fighting about this agenda or that one,it would be better for all to have two nations .then we will see which agenda will cause which nation to go bankrupt first and which nation has more jobs than the other nation.
Jimmy

Cleveland, MS

#34 Nov 20, 2012
u b idiot wrote:
<quoted text>
What about states that formed after the Constitution like Utah?
States freely gave up complete sovereign control to form a complete whole. States still have tons of control. I don't get why people think otherwise. There are few states that would survive without being in the union. Most states are landlocked, have little internal revenue and some no natural resources. It is a marriage. Not a perfect one but overall a happy one.
The Constitution, which the states agreed to, give instructions to become a state. By my count that means the power naturally flows from federal to state. States have to petition to Congress ( created by states). States have no power legally to secede and shouldn't.
The Constitution is not in concrete but the Federal creation is. The original Constitution also had this: Article 1, Section 2, Paragraph 3 and no 19th and certainly not 13th or 14th amendment.
Some states, up till the last decade, had laws making inter-racial marriages illegal.
States willingly gave the power to the federal government. That is a fact. Even Madison, the "writer" of the Constitution thought that stability trumped the rights of numerous individual ones.
Wow, for someone to come on here and call out all the "uneducated" people that are posting on here you write like you have picked up your constitutional diploma from a cafeteria. I assume a student of the public indocrination system.

The states did not give up their rights at the beginning, read the Virginia Ratifying Debates, and you will see how many were against it and the "fact" that the states were formed prior to the general goverment. Liberty was what they were looking to protect and they knew that if they formed a general, national, or central goverment over this vast land that eventually the liberties of the people would be taken away and the powers of the states and the general goverment could not coexist.

The Constitution is simply a document that set up the general goverment, nothing more nothing less. And that goverment had certain limited powers, as orginally intended. The states decided their own affairs and not all states immediately ratified the document, it took a while, because they didn't trust it, and with all the corruption that is evident today, now you can see why.

Since you brought up Art 1 Sect 2 paragraph 3, do you think we are represented today in the way it was intended? According to those numbers, there should be around 10,000 representative in the House today, if we are to be fairly represented. But then you argue, nothing would get done. My point exactely, nothing would get done, because that many people wouldn't go along with it and we wouldn't get screwed in the process. Honestly, I don't want them doing a thing, because liberties are removed daily when they are working, if you can say we have any liberties left.

I agree, that the some states have given up their soveriegnty. Anytime a state sticks it hand out to DC and takes their money that was stolen from other states, they are in a sense controlled by the general goverment. Why would we agree, well I didn't agree to it, people who are dead and gone did agree, to having our income taxed and sent to DC and then we have to send a representative there to get it back, when it would make much more sense for that money to stay in the state in the first place. After all we earned it. If we must be taxed then the state would be a better protocter of those funds and at the control of a smaller, like-minded populace, that could change the goverment if it got out of control. What chances do we have of changing DC?
And lastly your arguement of landlocked states, what about the country of Switzerland. They are landlocked and have survived just fine on their own. Again the states were on their own to start with and they could also established trade among the other states or with other countries. We don't need a central authority to dictate terms to us.
Jimmy

Cleveland, MS

#35 Nov 20, 2012
Wow, for someone to come on here and call out all the "uneducated" people that are posting on here you write like you have picked up your constitutional diploma from a cafeteria. I assume a student of the public indocrination system.

The states did not give up their rights at the beginning, read the Virginia Ratifying Debates, and you will see how many were against it and the "fact" that the states were formed prior to the general goverment. Liberty was what they were looking to protect and they knew that if they formed a general, national, or central goverment over this vast land that eventually the liberties of the people would be taken away and the powers of the states and the general goverment could not coexist.

The Constitution is simply a document that set up the general goverment, nothing more nothing less. And that goverment had certain limited powers, as orginally intended. The states decided their own affairs and not all states immediately ratified the document, it took a while, because they didn't trust it, and with all the corruption that is evident today, now you can see why.

Since you brought up Art 1 Sect 2 paragraph 3, do you think we are represented today in the way it was intended? According to those numbers, there should be around 10,000 representative in the House today, if we are to be fairly represented. But then you argue, nothing would get done. My point exactely, nothing would get done, because that many people wouldn't go along with it and we wouldn't get screwed in the process. Honestly, I don't want them doing a thing, because liberties are removed daily when they are working, if you can say we have any liberties left.

I agree, that the some states have given up their soveriegnty. Anytime a state sticks it hand out to DC and takes their money that was stolen from other states, they are in a sense controlled by the general goverment. Why would we agree, well I didn't agree to it, people who are dead and gone did agree, to having our income taxed and sent to DC and then we have to send a representative there to get it back, when it would make much more sense for that money to stay in the state in the first place. After all we earned it. If we must be taxed then the state would be a better protocter of those funds and at the control of a smaller, like-minded populace, that could change the goverment if it got out of control. What chances do we have of changing DC?
And lastly your arguement of landlocked states, what about the country of Switzerland. They are landlocked and have survived just fine on their own. Again the states were on their own to start with and they could also established trade among the other states or with other countries. We don't need a central authority to dictate terms to us.
Stupid

Lockhart, TX

#36 Nov 21, 2012
Stop being so dramatic, if you don't like it here move out. I'm sure it would be better in Iraq, Somalia, Haiti.....those are all nice little areas, they would welcome you with open arms.
Jimmy

Cleveland, MS

#37 Nov 21, 2012
Stupid wrote:
Stop being so dramatic, if you don't like it here move out. I'm sure it would be better in Iraq, Somalia, Haiti.....those are all nice little areas, they would welcome you with open arms.
I will move out when the general goverment returns the wages my family and I paid in for the illegal social security, geeser care, and all the federal income tax schemes. I don't see that happening anytime soon, so until then you are stuck with me!
Ozomba

United States

#39 Nov 24, 2012
Smh wrote:
A bunch of retards!!! Smh. Pitiful!!! All because Obama got re elected. Im quite sure none of u a millionaires or making 250,000+a year. So what r u really mad for? Obama was and is for the middle class ppl. Romney was for the rich well off ppl. It's sad that here we are in 2012 and racism is still prevalent. United we stand divided we fall
Oh yeah!!! Gimme some mo of dat Obama money!!!!! Who's going to pay for your crap retard? I guess that doesn't matter since you have a thief in charge now to steal for you!!!
commonsense

New York, NY

#41 Dec 3, 2012
Smh wrote:
A bunch of retards!!! Smh. Pitiful!!! All because Obama got re elected. Im quite sure none of u a millionaires or making 250,000+a year. So what r u really mad for? Obama was and is for the middle class ppl. Romney was for the rich well off ppl. It's sad that here we are in 2012 and racism is still prevalent. United we stand divided we fall
right,... that is why he rammed the largest tax hike in HISTORY our throats and claimed it was a health care bill. by increasing the amount of medical deductions alone he was cost every middle class family THOUSANDS per year!!! i'm sure welfare sucking tax feeders like you never file taxes so i am sure you have no clue what i am talking about,...

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