Homosexuality is not a Sin!
MizKitty

Ripley, TN

#171 Oct 18, 2012
I am a 55 yo grandmother that is overweight by 50lbs because of my meds any way I can't get a job that i'm qualified for because of the age and weight. I'm not hating on the gays just tired of it all, but then again there are a lot of things i am tired of. lol I have been told I didn't get "the" job because of the weight or age. Also didn't know about the pension and other things u mentioned. So I guess I stand corrected,and should apologize.
doug

United States

#172 Oct 18, 2012
No aplolgy needed, alot of people dont know. Its ashame that discrimination still exsist in this country whether it be like in your case, if someone is of a different race, or of their sexual orientation. In this great usa all american citizens should have equal rights and be treated the same. Also people see these gay people on tv and they always show these guys in dresses and acting a fool, when in reality most gay people are just like you and I. They look and act just the way we do. They have the same problems, of finding jobs, putting food on the table, healthcare, paying their bills, in reality, just trying to survive. You sound like a good woman, I hope you find another job that you're qualified for and who knows, hopefully it will pay more and you will like it even more then the one you didnt get. Dont give up, and good luck.
a soldier who cares

United States

#173 Oct 19, 2012
Your point is wrote:
Do you even realize how much time you have wasted to prove that God is not saying what he is saying. Do you even realize that your entire argument is don't believe what it says but believe how I interpret it? Do you not find that more than a little strange? Let me give you a tip, anytime you have to use a reason, excuse, interpretation of why the bible doesn't really mean what it says, yo
u might be fighting a loosing battle.
If I said he that stands and walks 20 minutes will reach a mile, but he that standeth not will not go anywhere. I think even you would agree that the statement is completely true. But by your logic as you apply it to Jesus words, all it would take to reach a mile is to stand. Why because you want to leave out the part that you have to do to complete the act and completes the entire sentence.
The bible is not people magazine, it is the divine and complete true word of God. Jesus did not add filler or things he did not mean.
By your logic, wonder why Jesus did not simply say "he that believeth shall be saved, but he that believeth not shall be damned? Jesus said it because he meant the part about baptism. Do you think that Jesus just wanted to confuse you and some people. No Jesus meant what he said and that it takes both parts of his complete sentence to make the verse complete. Once again, of the two of us you are the one picking and choosing what you want to actually mean something. You are the one picking and choosing when baptism means baptism and water means water. It must be very difficult for you to try and rationalize all of your interpretations.
As I have said before, I accept all of what the bible says. I accept both the first part and last part of verses. When you accept all it is all complete, when you pick and choose and leave out what makes it convienent for you and work for your interpretation I would think God would have problems with that.
I still have hope for you. It is an easy path to follow, just open your heart to what God says not man.
notice how your posts are full of your words with fragmented scripture, if any at all, and my posts are full of scripture with few of my words. Yet you are accusing me of trying to convince the world that my beliefs are all based solely on "my interpretation",.... paculiar isn't it?!?!?
a soldier who cares

United States

#174 Oct 19, 2012
seedplanter wrote:
<quoted text> if you wish to know what GOD approves or disapproves of , all you gotta do is just start reading . One easy place for homosexuality is Romans & preferably the king james version.
God Bless you and your family "seedplanter",...
seedplanter

Dallas, TX

#175 Oct 19, 2012
a soldier who cares wrote:
<quoted text>
God Bless you and your family "seedplanter",...
thank you . And isnt that the whole point in reading the bible ,to seek out its meaning ? After all it GODs letter to us. When someone states its a waste of time to look any deeper than face value then to me thats like leading lambs to a slaughter house. Example luke 14:26 It says one has to HATE their mother , father etc. In order to be GODs diciple . At face value this not the clear meaning of this message. Now if i apply common sense & i seek then i find this word HATE true meaning is "to love less" . Now this makes perfect sense. Example "unicorn" at face value im to believe this is an animal that existed. When i apply common sense & take the effort to seek then i find its true meaning is "a wild bull" or ox . When reading the bible one has to pick up the subject & follow through with its meaning but this is not welcomed with someone who wants a job a medeator . Teach a man to fish for himself & not lead him to the slaughter house . It is not a waste of time . I enjoy GODS word posted.
seedplanter

Dallas, TX

#176 Oct 19, 2012
""""The thief on the cross died before Jesus death burial and resurecction which means he was living under the old law."""" ....... i know denominations like throwing this out there but its never been expained to me what LAW was ever changed . I find that Matt. 5:17 & 18 state just the opposite. 5:17 think not i am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: i am not come to destroy ,but to fulfil...... 5:18 for verily i say unto you, Till heaven & earth pass, one jot or tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled......Can someone help here ? I have an open mind if you have an answer . I may not agree but im willing to hear .
Your point is

Milan, TN

#177 Oct 19, 2012
Wow wrote:
<quoted text>
Friend you are either extremely good hearted, very patient or both. I don't know how you can frame it any more or any better. You have used common sense, Gods and Jesus verbatim words and yet he still wants to tell you why the bible doesn't mean what it says. I know you are trying to help him and you have been very kind and respectful but you are not going to change his mind. He has decided than his word rules Gods word.
You are 100% right. You have done all you can do for him, let God handle the rest.
Thanks for the kind words and support! I agree with you, time to shake the dust off my feet. We are blessed beyond belief!
christ

Saltville, VA

#178 Oct 21, 2012
i'm not christ I just wanted to say I think that if you put your dead body in cold temperatures you might be immortal..

uh.. so maybe if we find the coldest planet.. and just kill ourselves by going on it..

we can live forever.. but here is the question..

while living forever will we be able to create a civilization from it..

http://www.disinfo.com/2010/05/quantum-dynami...
Jimmy

Cookeville, TN

#179 Oct 22, 2012
doug wrote:
No aplolgy needed, alot of people dont know. Its ashame that discrimination still exsist in this country whether it be like in your case, if someone is of a different race, or of their sexual orientation. In this great usa all american citizens should have equal rights and be treated the same. Also people see these gay people on tv and they always show these guys in dresses and acting a fool, when in reality most gay people are just like you and I. They look and act just the way we do. They have the same problems, of finding jobs, putting food on the table, healthcare, paying their bills, in reality, just trying to survive. You sound like a good woman, I hope you find another job that you're qualified for and who knows, hopefully it will pay more and you will like it even more then the one you didnt get. Dont give up, and good luck.
Since we're are talking about equal rights and fairness, so how is it fair or equal for me as a working citizen, to be forced to pay for someone else's rights? You are obviously wanting a benefit from the goverment or you wouldn't be raising hell over it. Do you know where the money comes from? Should the goverment be involved in marriage in the first place? Not trying to be a smart#$@, just wondering where do you get the right?
doug

United States

#180 Oct 22, 2012
Jimmy wrote:
<quoted text>
Since we're are talking about equal rights and fairness, so how is it fair or equal for me as a working citizen, to be forced to pay for someone else's rights? You are obviously wanting a benefit from the goverment or you wouldn't be raising hell over it. Do you know where the money comes from? Should the goverment be involved in marriage in the first place? Not trying to be a smart#$@, just wondering where do you get the right?
I dont understand your question. And for the record, I'm straight. Now that being said, how are you paying for someones equal rights, I dont understand. Benifit? Again, I dont understand, are you implying that I dont work or dont have a job? You're wrong, I do work, have had the same job for twenty years, pay taxes every year, so again, I dont understand where you're comming from. I just happen to think that every american should have the same rights, whats so difficult about that to understand? Why are you so set in seeing that people of your own country not have the same rights as you and I? Is it your hate for gays that is driveing you? If so, why do feel threated? Why are you so bent on threating some of your fellow americans as second class citizens, I also ask you, where do you get the right? It sounds as if you think you are better then them, when in reality you are equal. I'm not being a smartass either, I'm truly trying to understand your logic, which I cant. The only logical explanation I can come up with is fear and hate and misunderstanding the issues.
Jimmy

Cleveland, MS

#181 Oct 22, 2012
Should one man have special rights over another because of the color of their skin? Or their "sexual preference"? Why is it then employers are forced to hire a certain amount of women or a certain amount of people of color? Just a matter of time before it comes to force to hire gays. When did we start judging someone based off of the color of their skin or their "preferences" rather than their character or work ethic. Should the deck be stacked in one's favor because of past transgressions in which you or I or even they had no part of?

Now to your question as to why I feel threatened, so you say. Sexual education is taught in our schools, correct? So the argument was in order to better educate children they must attend sexual education classes however now those classes are covering extreme life styles and what if I don't want my kids hearing about it? What if I no longer want my tax money to pay for it? Where is my right? Or is it just one size fit all? I don't have the right to say anything against the goverment forcfully taking my money to pay for things I don't agree with? Why are they involved?

If you want to enter another man's rectum, by all means that is your business. But don't try to force your right on me and expect me to agree with you on it.
doug

United States

#182 Oct 22, 2012
Jimmy wrote:
Should one man have special rights over another because of the color of their skin? Or their "sexual preference"? Why is it then employers are forced to hire a certain amount of women or a certain amount of people of color? Just a matter of time before it comes to force to hire gays. When did we start judging someone based off of the color of their skin or their "preferences" rather than their character or work ethic. Should the deck be stacked in one's favor because of past transgressions in which you or I or even they had no part of?
Now to your question as to why I feel threatened, so you say. Sexual education is taught in our schools, correct? So the argument was in order to better educate children they must attend sexual education classes however now those classes are covering extreme life styles and what if I don't want my kids hearing about it? What if I no longer want my tax money to pay for it? Where is my right? Or is it just one size fit all? I don't have the right to say anything against the goverment forcfully taking my money to pay for things I don't agree with? Why are they involved?
If you want to enter another man's rectum, by all means that is your business. But don't try to force your right on me and expect me to agree with you on it.
Man you're off in left field for me. No one is forceing anything on you. Do you think it is right for someone to die then their partner of 20 years not to be able to draw their pension? Do you think it right for the family of a dieing gay person to deny that persons partner to visit, even though the family hasnt spoken to the dieing person in years? Well, the way it stands now it is perfectly legal. Do you think its right to deny a gay soildger the same rights you and I have, the same right that gay men and women in the military have fought and died for? I'm sorry sir, but your very last sentence tells the true story of this debate. You're hideing behind the real issue, but of course thats your business. But I have more respect for someone who simply says,' I hate this person because of this or that, instead of useing 'rights' as an excuse to lash out my hate. This is a civil issue. Under the law all men and women are suppose to have the same rights, as long as they are an american citizen, apparently you dont see it that way. I guess we can call this discussion quits, and just agree to disagree.
Jimmy

Cleveland, MS

#183 Oct 23, 2012
Since you wouldn't answer my questions, I will answer yours. If the person dying leaves a will and that person's partner is named to receive the benfits, then what court can overrule it? No arguement from me there,if the person is responsible then it is a non-issue. Do I think it's right for a fmaily to deny a dying gay person's partner to visit them, no I don't, but do we really need more laws? Has this even happened anywhere or is this a gay talking point to justify the arguement? Again, where has this happened? Last time I checked, our dear leader Maobama made this a non-issue in the military and what rights are you talking about? Again more laws requiring the majority to conform to your political correctness. Don't we have enough laws? Now as for your last statement, I don't hate a person for what they are or the color of their skin. I make my own judgement of a person on whether I like them or not based off of their character. What one does privately is no concern of mine. To sum it all up, don't force your political correctness on me and expect me to agree with it. I'm not going to kiss your ass or anybody else when it comes to this issue and act like I agree with you like some people do. I don't. So if that makes a person a biggot or a racists or whatever other names you can come up with, who is the really the civil one here? If the sky were falling would you rather me tell you the sky was falling or would you want me to lie to you? Most people who claim to agree with you, don't, they are just being "politically correct" and nice. Bottom line, it's morally wrong.
doug

United States

#184 Oct 23, 2012
Jimmy wrote:
Since you wouldn't answer my questions, I will answer yours. If the person dying leaves a will and that person's partner is named to receive the benfits, then what court can overrule it? No arguement from me there,if the person is responsible then it is a non-issue. Do I think it's right for a fmaily to deny a dying gay person's partner to visit them, no I don't, but do we really need more laws? Has this even happened anywhere or is this a gay talking point to justify the arguement? Again, where has this happened? Last time I checked, our dear leader Maobama made this a non-issue in the military and what rights are you talking about? Again more laws requiring the majority to conform to your political correctness. Don't we have enough laws? Now as for your last statement, I don't hate a person for what they are or the color of their skin. I make my own judgement of a person on whether I like them or not based off of their character. What one does privately is no concern of mine. To sum it all up, don't force your political correctness on me and expect me to agree with it. I'm not going to kiss your ass or anybody else when it comes to this issue and act like I agree with you like some people do. I don't. So if that makes a person a biggot or a racists or whatever other names you can come up with, who is the really the civil one here? If the sky were falling would you rather me tell you the sky was falling or would you want me to lie to you? Most people who claim to agree with you, don't, they are just being "politically correct" and nice. Bottom line, it's morally wrong.
No, you are wrong, if the family disagrees (even if the family has not spoken in years) then the gay partner has no right whatsoever, that sir, is the law. Why do you keep saying that ppl are forceing things on you? How is anyone forceing anything on you? No one is asking you to kiss up to anyone. Why all the hate. That is your opinion, about it being morally wrong, and unlike you, I respect your opinion. So do you hate all things that you consider morally wrong? Some relegions think drinking is morally wrong, do you hate all people who drink. What about people who have been divorced, the bible says it is morally wrong, do you hate all people who are divorced or have been divorced? You're hate on this issue runs deeper then that, only you know why. I dont know what question you said I did not answer in a previous post, I tried my best to answer as best I could. There is one question that you havent answered on my part, do you think it is right to deny our gay men and women the same rights that you and I have, espically since they are fighting to protect the rights you and I share? This sir, is not a moral issue, its a civil issue, which you are incapable of telling apart, or unwilling to seperate the two.
doug

United States

#185 Oct 23, 2012
That next to the last sentence was to read,'do you think it is right to deny our gay men and women in uniform who are fighting to protect the rights that you and I share, do you think its right to deny them the same rights that they fight(some even die) for?
doug

United States

#186 Oct 23, 2012
Please point to the post where I called you any names? If I did(and I do think I did) then I apologize. You sir are the one who is all up in the air and angry, i would like to talk about this and all civil issues in an adult and civil manner. Also, you seem to think that I'm gay, Iam not, I just happen to think that ALL americans should have the same protection and rights under the law. You were talking about jobs in an earlier post, In ever state in the south a person can legally be fired from their job bc of their sexual preface,without any warning, no matter how good or how skilled that person may be at that job. But I guess to you that is okay?
Jimmy

Cleveland, MS

#188 Oct 24, 2012
A will that has been ratified in the local court will stand. As for this argument being forced on me, it's a national issue! In the elections, on tv, on the radio, even in the mail. I could care less but again it's being forced down our throats by the few waiting some special treatment because of it. Now I will adress the hate issue, You assume since I speak out against it that I hate them, all of them. Not true, again another agrument that gays bring up, if you don't agree with them then you must hate them. Any man or woman that wants to be respected by me needs to earn that respect by their actions. Character is an important quality. I could care less what preference they are, what skin color they are, how old they are, whatever. I will treat anyone just like I would like to be treated, until they trepass against me, then I have no use for them. Do I hate things that are morally wrong, yes. Notice, I said things. Drinking is not morally wrong, but over indulgence is. Divorce is morally wrong but do I hold it against the person or even the drinking? No. Hate the sin not the sinner and by they way, none of us are perfect, we all have faults. As for the military, they have the same rights as us, but you are advocating a right that will affect others rights to think freely. When you try to tell or force someone, in this case, how to think, how is that freedom? I never said you called me any names but that is usually the response of gays when you don't agree with them. The name calling starts, you're a bigot or racist. I don't care what you call me, I will not appease someone on an issue that I don't beleive in. I think we can agree to disagree on these matters civilly. Am I mad about it? No, there is a bigger picture to this and alot of you fail to see it. It is funny how we fight or argue back and forth over these petty issues while a certain few benefits from it. The certain few is the political class in DC or in goverment. They are the only beneficials in these arguements while they divide and conquer us the citizenry. Have you ever thought about that?

And last, most states in the south are right to work states. So I will pose a question to you, If you agree with an employer to trade your labor for a wage, and you agree to the terms that was set forth at the begining of your employment, who are you to think you have the right to keep your job if those terms are violated? How can you, the goverment, or anyone else have the authority to tell a private business how to operate their business? How is that being a truly free nation?
yourgodNOTmine

Fort Worth, TX

#189 Oct 24, 2012
Jimmy wrote:
A will that has been ratified in the local court will stand. As for this argument being forced on me, it's a national issue! In the elections, on tv, on the radio, even in the mail. I could care less but again it's being forced down our throats by the few waiting some special treatment because of it. Now I will adress the hate issue, You assume since I speak out against it that I hate them, all of them. Not true, again another agrument that gays bring up, if you don't agree with them then you must hate them. Any man or woman that wants to be respected by me needs to earn that respect by their actions. Character is an important quality. I could care less what preference they are, what skin color they are, how old they are, whatever. I will treat anyone just like I would like to be treated, until they trepass against me, then I have no use for them. Do I hate things that are morally wrong, yes. Notice, I said things. Drinking is not morally wrong, but over indulgence is. Divorce is morally wrong but do I hold it against the person or even the drinking? No. Hate the sin not the sinner and by they way, none of us are perfect, we all have faults. As for the military, they have the same rights as us, but you are advocating a right that will affect others rights to think freely. When you try to tell or force someone, in this case, how to think, how is that freedom? I never said you called me any names but that is usually the response of gays when you don't agree with them. The name calling starts, you're a bigot or racist. I don't care what you call me, I will not appease someone on an issue that I don't beleive in. I think we can agree to disagree on these matters civilly. Am I mad about it? No, there is a bigger picture to this and alot of you fail to see it. It is funny how we fight or argue back and forth over these petty issues while a certain few benefits from it. The certain few is the political class in DC or in goverment. They are the only beneficials in these arguements while they divide and conquer us the citizenry. Have you ever thought about that?
And last, most states in the south are right to work states. So I will pose a question to you, If you agree with an employer to trade your labor for a wage, and you agree to the terms that was set forth at the begining of your employment, who are you to think you have the right to keep your job if those terms are violated? How can you, the goverment, or anyone else have the authority to tell a private business how to operate their business? How is that being a truly free nation?
"Divorce is morally wrong but do I hold it against the person" .... GOD is a divocee ! JEREMIAH ch. 3 : 8 . Maybe your god is morally wrong but my GOD is justified in all HIS ways .
Jimmy

Cleveland, MS

#190 Oct 24, 2012
yourgodNOTmine wrote:
<quoted text> "Divorce is morally wrong but do I hold it against the person" .... GOD is a divocee ! JEREMIAH ch. 3 : 8 . Maybe your god is morally wrong but my GOD is justified in all HIS ways .
Spend alot of time at the cafeteria, do you?
ygNmine

Kirbyville, TX

#191 Oct 24, 2012
I like your response , your a good man, please keep sticking up for this country.

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