McNairy

Jackson, TN

#1837 Apr 9, 2011
Really here is what it comes down to...Several gung.ho bullies,,went saw a fiction movie Walking Tall,,now they are that person...Peobably the girls did not care anything about their wrestling skills.
McNairy

Jackson, TN

#1839 Apr 9, 2011
You see folks how some Idiots are,, The bad criminial element in McNairy County..Now lets take a look at the criminials. I did not say you were a bad apple,,I said you have the wrong outlook on Buford Pusser and Walking Tall....
mikeelam

Rogers, AR

#1840 Apr 9, 2011
Selmer wrote:
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Have you apologized to BP' s grand daughter yet?
You might as well drop this line of conversation Selmer cause that won't happen. Did you forget that SHE attacked me and was disrespectful, not the other way around as you seem to suggest? Why aren't you asking her if she has plans to apologize to me?
mikeelam

Rogers, AR

#1841 Apr 9, 2011
ca96ms wrote:
There you go folks. See why LEO's, past/present won't lay out there info. Some idiot will take whatever and run with it. By the way, McNairy or whoever you are, 98% of LEO's are honest hard working people and most take pride in there work helping others. But just like everyone can see here on this forum, you'll always have a few bad apples in the bunch. I don't need to go any further here, as the bad apples already know who they are. Buford took on a lot being Sheriff. I don't think he realized the mountain he started climbing when he was first elected. Perfect, no of course not. Pauline being killed and having his face injuried the way it was, I believe, that was the straw that broke the camels back, so to speak. Many officers would've backed away and passed the buck. Many things we won't really ever know the truth about in the 64 to 70 Era. Other officers appeared to basically, roll with the flow and stay out of the way. Pusser got in office and then all hell broke loose when he started pressuring the criminal elements in the area. This some say, was what got the ball rolling to eliminate Pusser. Pauline appeared to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Kirksey Nix, many feel could add a lot to the 64-70 Era in McNairy Co.
Where is your proof? All we see is YOU giving us YOUR opinion. Where is your documentation and Please give us official documents and not just newspaper clippings.

You are also continuing to duck the issue of proving that YOU are a former LEO as YOU claimed. Your cedibility is all that is a stake here. So far, your word means nothing,
Road Runner

Lima, OH

#1842 Apr 9, 2011
ca96ms wrote:
There you go folks. See why LEO's, past/present won't lay out there info. Some idiot will take whatever and run with it. By the way, McNairy or whoever you are, 98% of LEO's are honest hard working people and most take pride in there work helping others. But just like everyone can see here on this forum, you'll always have a few bad apples in the bunch. I don't need to go any further here, as the bad apples already know who they are. Buford took on a lot being Sheriff. I don't think he realized the mountain he started climbing when he was first elected. Perfect, no of course not. Pauline being killed and having his face injuried the way it was, I believe, that was the straw that broke the camels back, so to speak. Many officers would've backed away and passed the buck. Many things we won't really ever know the truth about in the 64 to 70 Era. Other officers appeared to basically, roll with the flow and stay out of the way. Pusser got in office and then all hell broke loose when he started pressuring the criminal elements in the area. This some say, was what got the ball rolling to eliminate Pusser. Pauline appeared to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Kirksey Nix, many feel could add a lot to the 64-70 Era in McNairy Co.
Nice story, sounds like a movie I watched. Pusser know what being sheriff was all about in McNairy County prior to being elected. The ball rolling to kept Pusser wasn't the criminal element. We talked about this before. The cash machine. Its still there today.
mikeelam

Rogers, AR

#1843 Apr 9, 2011
Road Runner wrote:
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Nice story, sounds like a movie I watched. Pusser know what being sheriff was all about in McNairy County prior to being elected. The ball rolling to kept Pusser wasn't the criminal element. We talked about this before. The cash machine. Its still there today.
The cash machine was / is real. Some people just don't want to address it.
mikeelam

Rogers, AR

#1845 Apr 10, 2011
ca96ms wrote:
Elam, why don't you stop this. There's nothing to pursue. I think working at a Wal-Mart, as a security guard proves to everyone you don't really know what your doing. You've completely made a joke out of the Pusser Era. Anyone can look at old crime scene pictures and form an opinion on most anything. Being at crime scenes during Pusser's time would actually be the only way to get a clear and correct opinion. Since you were not there all of this you keep mentioning is nothing more than a wannabe cop's personal opinion. Real law enforcement would be all over something if it was found from BP days as sheriff. One more thing, I researched BP for two years, a long time ago. It's your good luck that Pusser's not around anymore. I have info on Pusser, I'm yet to see on this topic. At one time I would've shared it with you but there's no way I would even think about it now. Myself or anyone else following this topic do not have to share there work history with you. Who do you think you are continually wanting to see LEO info. That's none of your business, whether it's me or others. No one put you in the position your in. You did that by yourself. If this BP topic had been kept on a professional level you would have plenty help from other LEO's that were around back then. Apparently you've never been taught about Professional Ethics or you wouldn't be doing the things you've done. Your a piss poor excuse for a researcher. Maybe you just need to stick to being a guard at Wal-Mart.
You are the one trying to make a joke of things. First, I didn't work for Walmart. I worked for the Phillips Company which was also owned by the Walton Family. I served as Director of Loss Prevention and Security. I was not a security guard as you suggest, but then you already knew that didn't you, as that information has been previously posted.

You want to trivialize me just as you want to trivialize Pusser's own wrong goings while he was sheriff. You sir, are both a poser and a deceiver. You purposefully manipulate information to suite your needs. You lie to people. You embellish your own career and then refuse to prove what you say. YOU CLAIM TO BE A FORMER LEO. Why do you refuse to provide prove of that as I have with my own LEO career? You are just a poser with no credibility.

You talk about what other LEOs believe. You might be surprised to learn that there are other LEO's on this thread who do in fact agree with much of what I have to say. Did you think I was the only researcher here? You fool.

Who do you think you are, claiming to be a former LEO and then telling people its none of their business. YOU made the claim...,YOU made it OUR business!!! Now Poser..., show the rest of us who did and still serve as LEOs that YOU actually one as YOU claimed. You have no credibility here as you a are nothing but a deceiver and a Poser who has no real knowledge of the real story of Buford Pusser.
mikeelam

Rogers, AR

#1846 Apr 10, 2011
George McGann. W.R. Morris claimed that McGann was one of the assassins involved in the August 12th ambush. More importantly, Morris led people to believe that Pusser killed McGann in revenge for Pauline's death.

Below is a link regarding George McGann and how he died.

http://www.virtualubbock.com/stoJHughes_McGan...
mikeelam

Rogers, AR

#1848 Apr 10, 2011
Two independent articles which both discredit what we were by W.R. Morris. Morris of course wrote the "official biography" Buford Pusser. This is the same W.R. Morris who also wrote that a shot fired at Buford by Louise Hathcock struck a wall even though files and photos say the shot went through a window pane in her room.

Morris, not known for accuracy in his writings, suggested that the Hathcocks routinely disposed of bodies in the Tennessee River. Oddly, it is difficult, if not impossible, to find the name of a single such victim in official records or newspaper articles. In fact, you cant find any mention of such events at all.

This is the same W.R. Morris that spun the story that a seventeen year old Buford Pusser watched as Louise beat a sailor to death with a hammer inside the White Iris (some accounts say Shamrock). It is important to note that Pusser would have been seventeen in 1954. The Shamrock was built until 1957 and the White Iris wasn't constructed until after 1960.

Pusser never made an effort to correct what Morris had written. I guess be wanted people to believe this kind of garbage about him.

My apologies to ca96ms, guess1956, selmer , david and thomas for exposing their hero Buford Pusser as a fraud.
mikeelam

Rogers, AR

#1849 Apr 10, 2011
My point? I can go through my files and find stuff like this all day long while Guess1956 can't find two people grand jury members who will swear under oath that the Hathcock autopsy report was shown to the grand jury (or prove anything else for that matter). Like wise, Ca96ms, can't seem to prove that he was ever a LEO as he claims, Selmer can't understand Dwana and Atoya are due no apology and David and Thomas..., well, they are simply clueless.

I laugh when I see how they believe they have me on the run when it is I who has information on my side. What jokes they all are.
mikeelam

Rogers, AR

#1851 Apr 10, 2011
ca96ms wrote:
Your the fraud here, Elam. Your also a fool. You can't even stay on the real topic which is BP. Keep on being stupid, you'll probably get one the BP sticks shoved up your a--. You just hadn't run across the right person yet. You need to worry about yourself and stop attacking other folks. Nobody cares what you think. You've made a fool out of yourself so many times here until it's the normal topic. Look in the mirror and ask yourself, Am I really this stupid? Shouldn't be hard to figure out. 6 years and what? Learn to spell the word stupid. You're already wearing it!
What??? Still no proof that you were a LEO..., I wonder why..., lol? Oh, I see. Since you have nothing else, you have started making threats with "big sticks". Obviously , you are not the right person to get that job done as I see you suggested someone else might do it. If no one cares what I think, then why do YOU respond to everything I say?

Your the one that needs to look in the mirror. When you do, all you will see is a Poser, a deceiver who is such a coward that he hopes SOMEONE else will use a bid stick.

Six years and what have I figured out? That both W.R. Morris and Buford Pusser told fraudulent stories...., Morris with his writings and Buford claiming that "Walking Tall" was a "true" story. I have learned that that Buford never saw Louise Hathcock kill a sailor with a hammer. I have learned that he was probably never attacked beaten and robbed at the Plantation Club as he claimed. I have learned that he was too much of a coward to take W.O. Hathcock on alone when he went back to rob the Plantation Club since he had two friends with him. I have learned that Buford lied when he told different stories about the Plantation Club robbery. He said he wasn't there, then allowed to movie to show he was ..., a movie he said was "true". Obviously, one of those statements was a lie.

I have learned all about the payoffs and deals Pusser made with those he said he was fighting against. I have learned that the Hathcock shooting didn't take place the way Pusser claimed and that Louise was shot twice in the back as she begged for her life. I have learned that the Vogels who filed the report that led to Hathcock's shooting lived just minutes away from Buford's brother John in Illinois. Coincidence? I have learned that Pusser and Towhead White were once friends and that Pusser even attended a celebration thrown at the Shamrock in White's honor before Buford became sheriff. I have learned that Pusser was at the Shamrock the night Jack Hathcock was killed. I have learned about Pusser's other women as well as the marital problems that he and Pauline were having. I have learned that Pauline was separated from Buford and planning to leave him giving him, the spouse, motive to kill her.

Ca96ms I have learned all of this and much more, things that I can not post on a public forum. Most of all I have learned that people like you who have nothing to offer in this story always want to shoot their mouths off (no pun intended) at those who do have something to contribute. Most of all I have learned that you have no credibility at all. After all, you claim to be a former LEO and refuse to prove it. I have learned that you are nothing more than a Poser and a deceiver.

All of this and MUCH, MUCH more is what I have learned in the past six years.
David

Lexington, TN

#1852 Apr 10, 2011
You know what I liked about Ole Buford, he treated the punk ass crooks just like they treated their victims. When they started calling and threatening his family he took the main one to Hatchie bottom and whipped his ass good, should have left him there, but he brought him back for an example to the others, showed he wasn't afraid of their sorry asses and he would deal with them on the same basis as they dealt out. That's only one example, there are plenty more.
mikeelam

Rogers, AR

#1853 Apr 10, 2011
David wrote:
You know what I liked about Ole Buford, he treated the punk ass crooks just like they treated their victims. When they started calling and threatening his family he took the main one to Hatchie bottom and whipped his ass good, should have left him there, but he brought him back for an example to the others, showed he wasn't afraid of their sorry asses and he would deal with them on the same basis as they dealt out. That's only one example, there are plenty more.
If you like that, then you must really admire how I am not taking any crap off of ca96ms.

David, did you look at those two links I posted to see that Pusser didn't have anything to do with the deaths of Gagliardi or McGann? That was all embellishment just to make Pusser look good..., but it just wasn't true.

That is the same way that the story of Louise Hathcock being killed by Pusser was embellished to make "Ole Buford" look good as well. The problem is that autopsy report that shows she was shot twice in the back. A little additional research shows that the Vogels who filed the complaint against Hathcock lived just a few minutes fro Buford's brother John all the way up there in Illinois. Why didn't "Ole Buford" ever mention that he shot Louise in the back as she begged for her life? Why didn't "Ole Buford" ever mention that the Vogels and his brother lived in the same are?

Fact is "Ole Buford" was part of the problem in McNairy County..., not part of the solution. The people who were there and lived the real story say you couldn't tell "Ole Buford" from the state liners without a program.

I have had the opportunity to interview a number of the state liners and their families. They would / will admit to having committed criminal acts. They didn't make excuses for what they did when I spoke with them. Did Buford ever do the same? I think not. So what makes him so special that he could do the same type of things they were doing without calling himself a criminal?

Punk ass crooks??? What do you know??? Nothing apparently if you did, you wouldn't be bragging about admiring "Ole Buford " so much as according to so many "Ole Buford was as bad or worse than those you call "punk ass crooks". Do just a little real research David and you will learn as I did that he was a big part of the problem in McNairy County.

I gave you some reference (links) to see why I say Buford didn't kill Gagliardi and McGann. Can you prove that Pusser ever really took White down to the Hatchie River bottoms and beat him as Morris claimed? Be careful what you believe.
David

Lexington, TN

#1854 Apr 10, 2011
For one thing I lived in this immediate area before Buford was sheriff, I know what went on. What do you know personally about anyone or anything? I don't have to do any research to know he was a big problem for the riff raff that existed in and around the state line. Some people might not agree with his methods but he did what he should to handle these people. That movie you continually refer to might have been 90% hollywood but the message that came out is he was a man who stood up to these thugs and wasen't too particular about how he did it. That is what made him a legend and that is what will keep him a legend.
mikeelam

Rogers, AR

#1855 Apr 10, 2011
Sorry..., I'm not too impressed. McNairy lived there and he knew what was going on. I don't live there but I figured it out as did road runner so,tell us, what is your problem? How did all this get passed you?

Buford might remain a legend but it will be because people are ignorant as to what went on there.., not because he was a real hero. The real answer here is that money was thrown at making him a hero so that those throwing the money could make even more. Thats a freebie for you, so you won't have to spend time figuring that one out,..., now you know.
mikeelam

Rogers, AR

#1856 Apr 10, 2011
David..., I'm in a generous mood tonight, so I will help you out a little more. Check out the link below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FBI_Ten_Most_Wan...

Carmen Gagliardi was on the FBI's "Ten Most Wanted List" in 1967. He was arrested in 1978. Why is there no information in the FBI files that show he was ever considered as a suspect in the death of Pauline Pusser? Seems the only people that made that connection were Buford Pusser and W.R. Morris.

If Gagliardi was involved, why didn't the feds follow up o that after he was arrested? Hmmm?

David

Lexington, TN

#1857 Apr 10, 2011
I guess I am just ignorant because I didn't run with the same crowd as McNairy did. Who threw the money?
McNairy

Jackson, TN

#1859 Apr 11, 2011
David wrote:
I guess I am just ignorant because I didn't run with the same crowd as McNairy did. Who threw the money?
David there were truck stops in selmer....what was the name of them? do you remember the location? What was the name of the Motel just North of Bethel Springs tn?
mikeelam

Rogers, AR

#1860 Apr 11, 2011
thomas1971 wrote:
David, Trust me, You Are Truly WASTING your time, anytime you confront "elam" with solid questions, & anytime you ask him for PROOF of all The Crap he's accused Pusser of doing!!"He vehemently embellishes his "Fairy Tales" as "Looking For Truth", But all he's interested in is slandering & Bashing a man who's ben dead for 36 year's; It's really "Easy" to bash someone who can never fight back! He keeps hounding on the fact that"All these "Pusser Worshipper's" won't PROVE that Pusser was corrupt, a drunk, murderer, womanizer, drug addict,etc., etc; Since he's the one who's constantly accusing Pusser of EVERYTHING, HE is the one that needs to PROVE(p-r-o-v-e) Everything he's said about Buford Pusser, Because HE (elam) is the very one who STARTED all this bs to begin with! He will constantly call you every name he can think of,'cause he HATES anyone who disagrees with him & His Sick accusation's; Again, everyone needs to ask him, PROVE EVERYTHING he's accused Buford Pusser of, & If not, Then HE is the one who needs to keep his BIG Fat Mouth Shut!!"
Thomas..., I don't see posting any information at at to back what you say as I have. I have reasons for holding my opinions whereas all you seem to have is a fictitious movie you can't let go of. Did you even bother to visit those links? Did you not wonder why no one connected McGann and Gagliardi to the ambush?
The had Gagliardi in custody and still didn't even appear to consider him as a suspect. Ask your self why before you continue throwing bricks at me.
Thomas why is is that You , David, Ca96ms, Guess1956 and Selmer can't answer any questions when it comes to hard information about this story? You talk your way all around the subject, if you address it at all, but never give any real answers. I see this and so does everyone else, so do you think your insults will fly with anyone except your vocal small band of brothers?.
McNairy

Medon, TN

#1862 Apr 11, 2011
ca96ms wrote:
Elam, your way behind on this one. I'm sitting here looking at documentation of who was looking at who for the ambush, as well as, other contracts. Before you start with your bashing, NO, is the answer. Apparently you hadn't done your "Research" correctly. "David" your on the right track. Don't let some of these idiots tell you otherwise. Elam has really screwed this one up good.
Show what you got Ca,,,Put up or shut up. less lip service (fingers) more acti00n. Mr.Elam has always been willing to share with you,,or anyone. put up or shut up. My mind is open.

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