BLH

White House, TN

#943 Jan 13, 2011
By the way I'm glad that I'm not a part of that ass kissing group anyways.

Since: Dec 10

Arlington, TN

#945 Jan 13, 2011
mikeelam wrote:
Isn't it strange that when you research the legend of Buford Pusser that you find so many stories told by people who where there and lived the Saga as Buford, you come to the realization that all of the stories are about the same ... except for Buford's?
Look back at what these people had to say. People like Buford's step daughter Diane Vance, Skeet Adkins, Alcorn County Deputy Sheriff Hobert Bingham, Paul David English, Paul Moore, Ward Moore, Lavon Plunk, W.O. Hathcock, James Opal Gray. Howard Carroll, State Medical Examiner Dr Jerry Francisco, Dennis Hathcock, Bill Way, Alcorn County Sheriff Grady Bingham, McNairy County Sheriff Clifford Coleman and so many others.
Why is it that some people are so entrenched in Buford's version of the story that they won't research or even acknowledge what these people have to say? Some people scream at the top of their lungs that Buford's legend is true while failing to look to see if it really is.
These people have no idea of what research is. It is not about taking one person's word over the other... it about finding confirmation to what someone says, whether it be the expressed words of another or better yet, documentation from official reports, files or photographs.
Yes some people will scream to the heavens that Buford's version of the story is correct even as they call another person who was there, lived part of the story and knew well all of the major players name and speak down to them as if they were idiots as one of the troublemakers here did on crimemyths.
This person apparently had done so little research they didn't' even know who they were addressing. Lets be clear...Mr guess wasn't moderated on Crimemyths for the views he held, but rather for the adolescent manner in which he chose to express himself.
When people can't debate...they attack. That is what three or four people (possibly the same person posting under several different names)on this thread are doing. They know they can't debate the facts so the reduce themselves to trying to bully and badger others into submission without having to prove a thing they say.
Its too bad they have nothing to offer to the conversation, but force others to hear their disruptive antics any way.
They thing they don't seem to understand is that their bad behavior will not force interested parties away.
Mike, Plain and simple, not my intent to cause trouble. Will you do the following to prove your story:
1 Name the eyewitness that your research has uncovered that will state under oath that they saw Buford Pusser kill his wife?
2 Can you produce the murder weapon that Buford Pusser used to kill his wife?
3 Can you provide the name of the source that did any ballstic test that would prove that Buford Pusser killed his wife ( Answer, no there is on murder weapon that has ever been found )
4 Can you name the source that will testify under oath as to the motive that Buford Pusser killed his wife?
5 Can you provide the reports of the autopsy that would provide that Buford Pusser killed his wife?
6 Can you provide any grand jury charges that would prove that Buford Pusser killed his wife?
7 Can you provide the name of any witness that will testify under oath, before God that they have any information that they would be willing to give, with the provision that they would be challenged with questions from any defense?
Now, there is straight forward questions. No hostility, no name calling nothing but an honest question. Who do you plan to call as your first witness, willing to take an oath that they have information to back up what you call is what you have researched.
Niw, I await your usual rant about me not wanting an honest debate. Now I await you aying that I post under several names. You try to change the focus, who are your sources? If you are so proud of your reseach, I would think these people would jump forward to testify under oath for you. Regards guess1956

Since: Dec 10

Arlington, TN

#946 Jan 13, 2011
To all interested parties to this story, be prepared for the attacks of Mike Elam.
1 His first line of offense is to make you mad so that you will attack him, not his so called research his research is total waste of time.
2 he is going to try to make you mad by accusing you of posting under different names- to not be mislead, do not respond to this junk
3 Mike Elam will try to bully you and claim all the research he has done, none which can be proven- he has no sworn statements, no testimony that has been taken under oath, he has conversations that he states he made with no proof what so ever
He will tell you-check the information on crimemyths, which he controls like Hitler controlled Germany, disagree and it is off to the cooler with you!!!
4 Mike is like Merlin and his magic, he is a master of misdirection. He will usr peronal attacks, get you so mad that you respond to him instead of the evidence, and that is how he thinks he has bested you.
Mike, your research is a joke. The Condo News, Jerry Heathcock, Cammy Wilson, hahah
EVERYONE THAT HAS A THOUGH OR COMMENT TO MAKE, STAY FOCUSED BE READY FOR THE ATTACK!!!.
BLH

White House, TN

#950 Jan 14, 2011
mikeelam wrote:
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Your questions and comments here are TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE. You had the opportunity to involve yourself in honest debate but YOU refused to do so making yourself irrelevant to the conversation.
That that most have you on their IGNORE list, you suddenly change your tone...a little. Why don't you first outline that all of the things I previously listed actually happened providing similar evidence that you ask of me. YOU DON'T GET TO MAKE THE RULES HERE! I am no longer playing your adolescent games. Either put up or shut up.
If you are to debate answer his questions don't be a coward!!! Besides Mike you don't make the rules on here either sorry!!!!!!!!
Wondering

Savannah, TN

#952 Jan 14, 2011
BLH, are you from McNairy county?
newbie

Savannah, TN

#954 Jan 14, 2011
ca96ms wrote:
"Real", come on! THE LEGEND is real, Buford Pusser was REAL! BLH, you have nothing to prove. The shoe is on the other foot, which happens to be Elam ( or whatever his real name is). ELAM or Vance, amazing, a simple question and no answer yet.
just started reading this forum a coulple of days ago, and i'm wondering what is the relevence of Mike being Elam or Vance?

Since: Dec 10

Arlington, TN

#956 Jan 14, 2011
mikeelam wrote:
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Your questions and comments here are TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE. You had the opportunity to involve yourself in honest debate but YOU refused to do so making yourself irrelevant to the conversation.
That that most have you on their IGNORE list, you suddenly change your tone...a little. Why don't you first outline that all of the things I previously listed actually happened providing similar evidence that you ask of me. YOU DON'T GET TO MAKE THE RULES HERE! I am no longer playing your adolescent games. Either put up or shut up.
Mike, I did put up. Who are your eyewitness, to the crime that Buford Pusser killed his wife? Will they take an oath before God that they saw this happen?( Answer there are none ) Where is the murder weapon? Has it been checked by ballastics to prove that it was the murder weapon?( Answer, no murder weapon has ever been located) Where is the grand jury indictment charging Buford Pusser with the crime of murder of his wife?( Answer there is not one ) Where is the autospy of Pauline Pusser that would prove that Buford Pusser killed her?( Answer, there is not one) You have not come close to proving anything. You have proved that you have a agenda that is unknown at this time. YOU DONT'T GET TO MAKE THE RULES HERE ! Quit playing your child like games, bully!! The playground does not belong to you anylonger!! Long live The Condo News hahaha Long live Cammy Wilson!! hahaha Long live your so called hogwash research hahaha
newbie

Savannah, TN

#957 Jan 14, 2011
ca96ms wrote:
Go back further and read several earlier post and you'll understand. Thanks.
if your speaking of Mike Vance, Bufords' step-son, last i heard from him, he was in Kansas City, MO.
BLH

White House, TN

#959 Jan 15, 2011
Wondering wrote:
BLH, are you from McNairy county?
No I am from Lafayette Tennessee, Macon County
BLH

White House, TN

#960 Jan 15, 2011
mikeelam wrote:
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I offered evidence that the legend is a myth where as you haven't offered a thing to show us that it is real . YOU didn't debate. you are nothing but a waste of my time.
No You are nothing but a waste of time Mike just like crimemyths.
BLH

White House, TN

#961 Jan 15, 2011
mikeelam wrote:
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I offered evidence that the legend is a myth where as you haven't offered a thing to show us that it is real . YOU didn't debate. you are nothing but a waste of my time.
Really you havnt offerd nothing to show the legend is a myth.
Diane Vance, Skeet Adkins, Alcorn County Deputy Sheriff Hobert Bingham, Paul David English, Paul Moore, Ward Moore, Lavon Plunk, W.O. Hathcock, James Opal Gray. Howard Carroll, State Medical Examiner Dr Jerry Francisco, Dennis Hathcock, Bill Way, Alcorn County Sheriff Grady Bingham, McNairy County Sheriff Clifford Coleman and so many others.Are these people still alive today mike?How do you know the are telling the truth?Why did it take so long for them to talk?Why are they not going public and talk about let everyone know the truth? f what they are saying is true why not let everyone know
BLH

White House, TN

#963 Jan 15, 2011
ca96ms wrote:
BLH, I see your getting the run a round, this happens when you back him into a corner. He talks a big game here, but that's about it. He can line up names like a schedule but if you'll notice, several are deceased, I'm yet to see anyone of them post on here. If what any of the people knew, whether alive or dead now, it doesn't matter after all these years. Nobody really cares. One thing is for certain though, he's running out of options to detour certain questions. Maybe soon, he'll come out and clean his act up. He's very deceptive and has a habit of trying to detour or avoid certain questions. Is Elam actually Vance?
Really would not expect anything less from Mike. If you don't agree with him or his puppets on crimemyths you are labeled by him as a trouble maker.

Since: Dec 10

Arlington, TN

#965 Jan 15, 2011
mikeelam wrote:
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Your questions and comments here are TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE. You had the opportunity to involve yourself in honest debate but YOU refused to do so making yourself irrelevant to the conversation.
That that most have you on their IGNORE list, you suddenly change your tone...a little. Why don't you first outline that all of the things I previously listed actually happened providing similar evidence that you ask of me. YOU DON'T GET TO MAKE THE RULES HERE! I am no longer playing your adolescent games. Either put up or shut up.
BLAH BLAH Mike, you are a game player. You are not interested in honest debate. You are here to stir up trouble. Everyone should shun you. Most everyone has you on their ignore list. Your comments on here are TOO LITTLE, TO LATE.You had the opportunity to involve yourself, but you REFUSED to do so. Why don't you first name one eyewitness that will be sworn under oath to back up your outlandish claims. Mike, YOU DO NOT GET TO MAKE THE RULES HERE. PRODUCE AN EYEWITNESS WHO WILL SWEAR UNDER OATH THAT WILL STATE THEY SAW BUFORD PUSSER MURDER HIS WIFE. LET THAT EYEWITNESS BE CROSS-EXAMINED BY AN OPPOSING COUNSEL. MIKE, PUT UP OR SHUT UP MIKE PRODUCE THE MURDER WEAPON MIKE PRODUCE THE BALLASIC EVIDENCE THAT WILL CONFIRM THE MURDER WEAPON MIKE PRODUCE THE GRAND JURY FINDINGS THAT CONFIRM YOUR THEORY THAT BUFORD PUSSER MURDERED HIS WIFE MIKE PRODUCE ANYTHING SWORN UNDER OATH MIKE YOU ARE A FRAUD!!! MIKE IS IT TIME TO CRY OUT FOR YOUR UNCLE??????
BLH

White House, TN

#967 Jan 16, 2011
mikeelam wrote:
It is difficult to have a discussion when only one side is actually prepared and participating. I have given names, shown documents and files etc to show that the legend that we know it is a myth. What has the other side done?
Some of these people say they don't have to prove that the legend is true. Thats fine. Thats like claiming that the don't have to prove that Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny or the Tooth Fairy are real after you have announced that they are. The rest of us just have to understand that they choose to take this route as deep down inside..., they know they can't prove that these three tales to be true.., or the legend of Buford Pusser is real.
Avoiding the discussion is their way of also avoiding the truth. I have placed photos, documents files and interviews on the crimemyths forum at yahoo groups to back my arguments. All you have to do is ask these nay sayers where they have posted information to prove that the Pusser legend is true to understand that they are nothing but talk....excuses and hot air.
Ok mike how many of these people still alive and are willing to take a polygraph test? Why are these people not wanting there story told to the public?
macey

Nashville, TN

#968 Jan 16, 2011
I believe in the movie version of Buford Pusser like I believe in Santa Clause. Get real if he had done half of what has been said he would have been put under the jail because half the stuff he did in the movie would have been against the law. If anybody thinks the movie version of his life is even half true then most would call you stupid.
got to go

Jackson, TN

#970 Jan 16, 2011
Was Buford asked to take a polygraph test?
got to go

Jackson, TN

#971 Jan 16, 2011
Did Buford refuse a polygraph test?
Paul

Savannah, TN

#973 Jan 16, 2011
macey wrote:
I believe in the movie version of Buford Pusser like I believe in Santa Clause. Get real if he had done half of what has been said he would have been put under the jail because half the stuff he did in the movie would have been against the law. If anybody thinks the movie version of his life is even half true then most would call you stupid.
Amen!
BLH

White House, TN

#974 Jan 16, 2011
mikeelam wrote:
As I have previously stated W.O. and Larece Hathcock volunteered to take a polygraph regarding the ambush and thereafter were not pursued any longer as suspects. Why didn't Buford submit to a polygraph examination as well?
Why would he submit to one? Did the T.BI OR F.B.I ask him to?
BLH

White House, TN

#975 Jan 16, 2011
mikeelam wrote:
I have heard different stories about this so I have to honestly answer that I do not know if he was ever asked to take a polygraph. I would suggest that with speculation running rampant that he had killed Pauline, you would think he would have volunteered for one just to keep the investigation focused on others by clearing himself. Why didn't he?
Paul David English was incarcerated at the time of the alleged ambush. When I interviewed him before his death, English stated that when Buford returned to work after the ambush the TBI was there everyday for about three weeks questioning Pusser about the ambush.
I have learned that after W.O. and Larece went to Nashville and Volunteered to submit to a polygraph (and passed it), a TBI agent escorted them all of the way back to the Mississippi state line to make sure they got home safely.
I have several items on file where Pusser would not refer to W.O. by name in the press, but would talk about a little fat man in Corinth as being part of the ambush plot.
I still find it interesting that the Plantation Club (in Mississippi, better yet) had been closed since before Pusser was ever elected sheriff, yet Pusser tried unsuccessfully, to make W.O. Hathcock a key player in the alleged ambush....why?
Who knows maybe he was . Evidently the T.B.I didn't have anything on Buford to arrest him for his wifes murder.

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