To protect turf, Mexican drug lord 'El Chapo' OKs lethal force ...

The reputed head of Mexico's Sinaloa drug cartel has instructed his associates to use deadly force if necessary -- even against U.S. law enforcement -- to protect their increasingly contested trafficking operations, according to law-enforcement authorities here and in Washington.

[Fred]

Misery is the only thing these drug people contribute to every society they touch. There is nothing to debate, they are a public threat, "GET RID OF THEM" no one will miss them they are nothing but trash.

[Mike]

Fred, getting rid of them won't accomplish anything. As long as prohibition remains the policy, there will be an endless line of people willing to take their place.

[John Walters]

This is actually great news! Now that they want to do battle with the US, we can take them out! It'll be even better if the 6000 dead (since the start of this year) turns into 60,000 or 600,000. By the time the war spills over our border and Americans start dying en masse, and all Mexicans are dead or enjoying their new police state, we'll have WON!!! We must be scaring them, and we're certainly WINNING!!! Smell that victory?

[The Anti-Fred]

Which drug people are you referring to? The alcoholic beverage industry folks? Oh...wait! They stopped killing each other after Prohibition ended. Legalization sure has a tendency to kill the black market... I guess I forgot, alcohol is not a drug, merely a social lubricant and tasty beverage that most folks enjoy responsibly!

In all seriousness, though, Prohibition WILL end, sooner rather than later. Cannabis will be first. We've had enough of the "Freds" of the world telling us who and what is "bad." If you want to be a Puritan Fred, maybe you should travel back in time and board the Mayflower. You moral hypocrites are not wanted 'round these parts, ya' hear?

[aahpat]

Every time you squeeze a market in one place it simply pops out someplace else. But more violently and aggressively. This is the economic history of the war on drugs. You can't defy supply demand economics.

Of course these thugs will protect their market. Its tax free and totally unregulated. Legalization would take the market away from the gangsters. Legalization would put regulatory oversight in between children and drug sales.
Drug war supporters just say no.

The drug war policy creates the black market. The drug war policy gives gangsters, cartels and terrorists billions in tax free subsidies to rain chaos down on society. You who support the drug war you support subsidizing America's enemies, both foreign and domestic.

[NIP 2010]

This is a direct result of our immigration laws not being enforced.

STOP the illegal alien invasion.

[Capt Concernicus]

"The reputed head of Mexico's Sinaloa drug cartel has instructed his associates to use deadly force if necessary -- even against U.S. law enforcement -- to protect their increasingly contested trafficking operations, according to law-enforcement authorities here and in Washington."

I say bring it. Send in the Army and Air Force. Use those brand new and shiny F-22's, bring in some AC-130 gunships, some Apache's. Use armed Predator drones and recon Global Hawks.

Most important objective is to destroy the drugs themselves. Make it so the drugs become so expensive that it becomes out of reach for most consumers. The drug runners wil be collateral damage. As soon as enough of them die and enough drugs are destroyed maybe...just maybe they'll think twice.

[Ha Ha HA]

Just after Obama praised Mexicos hard line stance agienst the War Lords, the War Lords take the fight to Obama. If we legalized drugs, we would take the money from the Lords and put it into our pockets!

[Ha Ha HA]

The drug buisness is like a water bed, if you push down on one spot another wil rise. Even if you destroyed all the drugs in Mexico the prices will remain the same. Because of other countries importing drugs. Legalize IT>

[Eric]

Mexico just passed a law decriminalizing possession of all drugs.

[Capt Concernicus]

Eric wrote:

Mexico just passed a law decriminalizing possession of all drugs.

Where did you read or hear that? Could submit a link? Thx!

[aahpat]

Capt Concernicus wrote:

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Where did you read or hear that? Could submit a link? Thx!

Mexico passes bill on small-scale drugs possession
http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/i...

"MEXICO CITY, May 1 (Reuters)- Mexico's Congress has passed a bill decriminalizing the possession of small amounts of drugs, from marijuana to methamphetamine, as President Felipe Calderon tries to focus on catching traffickers."

[aahpat]

Supporting the war on drugs is giving a tax free subsidy program to criminals, cartels and terrorists. Giving them "aid and comfort".

[aahpat]

Needlessly throwing the lives of American police officers and military troops down this rat hole of drug enforcement, when instead America can regulate and license the criminal anarchy out of the distribution of intoxicant drugs, is heartless, inhumane and uncivilized. It's a waste of good Americans.

The drug war is a subsidy for the proliferation of cheap and easy to get cop killing street guns already. Police are nothing more than cannon fodder in this moralistic authoritarian insanity policy.

Mexico has more than fifty thousand military troops fighting the drug war. Additionally, they have both federal and local police manning the border and fighting the drug war. The U.S. has a dozen federal agencies, the military and dozens of local police agencies on the border fighting the drug war.

YET STILL literally hundreds of tons of drugs get across the border each year.

[Capt Concernicus]

aahpat wrote:

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Mexico passes bill on small-scale drugs possession
http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/i...
"MEXICO CITY, May 1 (Reuters)- Mexico's Congress has passed a bill decriminalizing the possession of small amounts of drugs, from marijuana to methamphetamine, as President Felipe Calderon tries to focus on catching traffickers."

Interesting. Thanks.

[Pony]

The Anti-Fred wrote:

Which drug people are you referring to? The alcoholic beverage industry folks? Oh...wait! They stopped killing each other after Prohibition ended. Legalization sure has a tendency to kill the black market... I guess I forgot, alcohol is not a drug, merely a social lubricant and tasty beverage that most folks enjoy responsibly!
In all seriousness, though, Prohibition WILL end, sooner rather than later. Cannabis will be first. We've had enough of the "Freds" of the world telling us who and what is "bad." If you want to be a Puritan Fred, maybe you should travel back in time and board the Mayflower. You moral hypocrites are not wanted 'round these parts, ya' hear?

Drugs are what got us to this point and for you to think drugs will get us out of it is insane.

[Pony]

Eric wrote:

Mexico just passed a law decriminalizing possession of all drugs.

I think that the cartels did not get the memo.

[Pony]

Ha Ha HA wrote:

Just after Obama praised Mexicos hard line stance agienst the War Lords, the War Lords take the fight to Obama. If we legalized drugs, we would take the money from the Lords and put it into our pockets!

Now Obama want to take over the drug dealing also.

[inow what hupens]

this is one warr for the kartels the drugs

[An AMW Update]

Ha Ha HA wrote:

Just after Obama praised Mexicos hard line stance agienst the War Lords, the War Lords take the fight to Obama. If we legalized drugs, we would take the money from the Lords and put it into our pockets!

By Angeline Hartmen working for America's Most Wanted, FBI and Local Police Departments:

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